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Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« on: April 28, 2008, 04:35:23 PM »

http://www.cardowireless.com/Q2/features

Did a search and only found one post.
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2008, 02:44:30 PM »

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Im not sure if this qualifies as the same thing But Don and I did use our bluetooth intercoms  on our nolan helmets just recently when we went to Laughlin. We were on seperate bikes and it worked great!  :)

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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2008, 05:00:56 PM »

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Im not sure if this qualifies as the same thing But Don and I did use our bluetooth intercoms  on our nolan helmets just recently when we went to Laughlin. We were on seperate bikes and it worked great!  :)

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Are the Nolan's using a true BT for the intercom or using the cell phone?

Do you know if the Nolan's are simplex or duplex, couldn't find it on their site but the Cardo's are duplex.

Simplex - works like a walkie talkie
Duplex - works like a telephone
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2008, 05:35:33 PM »

Are the Nolan's using a true BT for the intercom or using the cell phone?

Do you know if the Nolan's are simplex or duplex, couldn't find it on their site but the Cardo's are duplex.

Simplex - works like a walkie talkie
Duplex - works like a telephone

Duane, it's been awhile since I read the manual.  But think I remember it being full duplex with either the wired or wireless intercom options on the N-Com system.

The one immediate potential downside to doing as they described above is the N-Com's bluetooth module pairs to only one device.  So if you pair it to another N-Com module for intercom use you can't pair it to a phone or anything else at the same time.  Not a bad thing at all if you don't want to screw with the phone while on the bike though.
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2008, 05:44:09 PM »

Don, the phone is really not an issue, not real interested in using it when riding.

Although, the Zumo with the BT is a nice feature, as you can see who is calling, could be nice for when you get that "when are you going to be home" call.

Actually, I really don't want any comms, I like it the way it is.

But - my wife wants to be able to talk, and though I can hear her fine it does not work well the other way, especially if I decide to use the full face.

So, comms would be for that, and Glenn, being a HOG road captain is big on the comms and CB.

I have considered the comms with maybe a CB hookup for that purpose.

The Cardo unit seems relatively inexpensive and the new model will pair to more then 1 BT. And it is full duplex.

There was another unit that I had just seen before York and was very tempted to order it but forgot. That unit was able to also work with a half helmet, using a behind the head type headphones.

Now I don't remember where I saw it  :nixweiss:
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2008, 05:55:55 PM »

Don, the phone is really not an issue, not real interested in using it when riding.

Although, the Zumo with the BT is a nice feature, as you can see who is calling, could be nice for when you get that "when are you going to be home" call.

Actually, I really don't want any comms, I like it the way it is.

But - my wife wants to be able to talk, and though I can hear her fine it does not work well the other way, especially if I decide to use the full face.

So, comms would be for that, and Glenn, being a HOG road captain is big on the comms and CB.

I have considered the comms with maybe a CB hookup for that purpose.

The Cardo unit seems relatively inexpensive and the new model will pair to more then 1 BT. And it is full duplex.

There was another unit that I had just seen before York and was very tempted to order it but forgot. That unit was able to also work with a half helmet, using a behind the head type headphones.

Now I don't remember where I saw it  :nixweiss:

For anything more than bikes riding in relatively close proximity the N-Com thing won't be the right tool Duane.  It's Bluetooth range.  So variable and not far.  They'll automatically reattach as you move in and out.  But for someone at the front and rear of a HOG group or something like that the com's wouldn't reach.
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2008, 10:14:53 AM »

Anyone tried these Scala Cardo's Q2's as Duane asked?

We SEEG owners have no communications on our bikes.  Looking to be able to: 1) talk to my daughter (passenger), 2) my wife on her bike, and 3) be able to link to a Zumo if I get one.

Any help, tips, advice would be appreciated.  Phone use is not really needed.  Thanks, bob

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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2008, 10:56:21 AM »

Here's another similiar to the Scala Cardo-

http://myblueant.com/interphone-motorbike-helmet-kit.htm
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« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2008, 11:00:20 AM »

I have been looking at the Scalarider Q2 that is full duplex and links multiple bluetooth devices, four I think. I do need the phone function and use that on the Zumo now but without the headset. Just knowing who is calling helps a lot when on a trip. About to pull the trigger so will let you know how it all links up.  :)
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2008, 11:01:31 AM »

Bob,

There are 2 different versions of the Cardo, a newer version is supposed to have a greater range.
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2008, 11:03:17 AM »

I do need the phone function and use that on the Zumo now but without the headset


Do you really?

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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2008, 12:24:39 PM »

Spent a lot of time going around in large circles.  :rolleyes4:Problem with that is every trip around looks like something new when you have short term memory problems! ;D
I carried the Zumo in my pocket at Knoxville and about had to use it to get back to the bike. Glad I don't drink!
The phone feature is really nice, it shows your directory, missed calls, dialed calls, just about everything your phone does.
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2008, 12:57:29 PM »

Bob,

There are 2 different versions of the Cardo, a newer version is supposed to have a greater range.

Says 1680 feet on flat ground for the Q2 Duane.  Others I have seen have been 500 feet.  Also has an embedded FM radio. 

Would hate to buy and J&M or someone else come out with something more useable real soon.  But that's the way electronics are I guess.  Bob
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2008, 01:10:55 PM »

Don't need one got the CB/INT on the SEUC. I believe these radio are mainly for rider/BSR comm

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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2008, 06:40:09 PM »

Says 1680 feet on flat ground for the Q2 Duane.  Others I have seen have been 500 feet.  Also has an embedded FM radio. 

Would hate to buy and J&M or someone else come out with something more usable real soon.  But that's the way electronics are I guess.  Bob


That review you listed on HD is the first time I read anything on the new version. The review is very favorable and for the price looks like it just might be the ticket.

I heard from someone (don't remember because I didn't think it was important) that J&M has a bluetooth unit coming out that has the best of everything, but not until late December.

I am not interested in the CB stuff, don't really even want the intercom, but Deb wants to talk when riding so this might be it.
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2008, 02:05:07 PM »

Are the Nolan's using a true BT for the intercom or using the cell phone?

Do you know if the Nolan's are simplex or duplex, couldn't find it on their site but the Cardo's are duplex.

Simplex - works like a walkie talkie
Duplex - works like a telephone

You can use the Nolan either way.....wireless bluetooth intercom or via the cell phone through the helmet but you have to be paired to one or the other (just a push of the button on the side of the helmet) and can't be active on both at the same time.
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #16 on: May 19, 2008, 09:51:18 PM »

Says 1680 feet on flat ground for the Q2 Duane.  Others I have seen have been 500 feet.  Also has an embedded FM radio. 

Would hate to buy and J&M or someone else come out with something more useable real soon.  But that's the way electronics are I guess.  Bob


I think J&M's is out now, according to their web site you can order it.

http://jmcorp.com/SeeProducts.asp?PF=30


Is this system a Duplex  ??

Would these wireless devices allow you to listen to the factory stereo and XM thru the head sets ?

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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2008, 11:23:07 PM »

Is this system a Duplex  ??

Would these wireless devices allow you to listen to the factory stereo and XM thru the head sets ?


The Cardo is mono, and yes it is duplex

The new one may be stereo - includes two speakers
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2008, 01:03:20 PM »

I spoke with J&M's distributor here in Ohio yesterday (Sierra Electronics) and they said their latest Blutooth headsets would be out by the end of July with the features of the Q2 Cardo Scala and in STEREO.. 
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2008, 02:43:44 PM »

Well since I'm not in a rush  ::)

Still, the Cardo will end being cheaper I'm sure ($400 for two). If I had a bluetooth stereo that might make a difference.

Actually, if the stereo headsets were good enough, and we could "bluetooth" the iPod's and non bluetooth GPS that would be worth not having a $$ HW system.

Glenn uses a CB on all of his bikes, I'm just not ready to add that to the bike. But if that also was BT, and I could hide everything in the tourpak or saddlebags ....................................

i am still considering the Cardo's though. They seem reasonable enough that I could get three, just let your riding partner use the extra one.
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2008, 02:57:40 PM »

Maybe you saw this on Ebay Duane but bargainbikergear (authorized dealer) has 2 new Q2's for sale for $321.98 with $17.50 shipping.  Item # 260240217156 ..


It would be nice to talk to other rider's with CB's..  J&M will probably be high in price.  Bob
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2008, 05:28:53 PM »

I was looking at the link you posted, it appears the J&M BT unit still uses a "wired" intercom.
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2008, 05:48:30 PM »

Just tried that item number - already sold. That seems to be the best price I have seen so far.
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #23 on: May 20, 2008, 05:50:53 PM »

I was looking at the link you posted, it appears the J&M BT unit still uses a "wired" intercom.

Yes, the current J&M BT has a cable between the rider and passenger.

If you are interested in the Q2's, I'm sure that company will have them listed again.  The auction was close to being over when I provided the item #..  They may already be relisted.
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« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2008, 05:54:21 PM »

New listing is 260242634051 for a pair.
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« Reply #25 on: May 20, 2008, 06:58:55 PM »

New listing is 260242634051 for a pair.


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« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2008, 08:12:31 PM »

Talked to J&M today and they said that their blue tooth will not work with the factory Harley radio for now. They said that their working on a dongle that would plug into the system that will allow you to listen to the am/fm/xm/aux over the headset wirelessly.
Didn't have an exact date of when it would be ready but he said soon.

Also they said they have a Zumo 550 interface that will be out next week that will allow you to listen to am/fm/xm and when the zumo starts giving turning directions it will interupt whatever your listening too and give you the turn directions.
Here:  http://jmcorp.com/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=CFRG-HDC-ZMO550&PF=6

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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2008, 11:32:48 PM »

I can already tell by the above link all I should need is two of the Cardo's.

The J&M stuff looks way too complicated.

Does the Zumo 550 BT work only for the phone or will it announce directions over the BT.

Anyway, the Cardo looks like it will pair with 4 BT items, should be more then enough for me.

I'm sure it won't be long before there is a BT CB that you can hide in a saddlebag - maybe then I'll consider the breaker breaker 19 squawk box.
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« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2008, 07:56:35 PM »

My wifew and I use the Blueant  devices works great between bikes . the bateries only last for 4 hours so we both have 2 sets and change mid day. I found the blueant devices on the internet for 122.00 dollars.  Billy
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2008, 02:00:24 PM »

We SEEG owners have no communications on our bikes.  Looking to be able to: 1) talk to my daughter (passenger), 2) my wife on her bike, and 3) be able to link to a Zumo if I get one.

Any help, tips, advice would be appreciated.  Phone use is not really needed.  Thanks, bob

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Bob, the answer to your questions are yes, yes and yes.

All right, here is the initial impression after 2000+ miles.

I have two sets, let Glenn use one.

The system is everything the ads say. We were able to communicate like we were on a telephone. Distance was easily 1000+ feet. I think at times we were well over the 1600' when we had a direct line of site. We were both using full face helmets.

The cell phone feature is nice - ask Good Howie. I talked to him last night while coming home for about a half hour. He had no idea I was rolling down the highway at 65 mph.

The units don't stay "open" all the time unless you set it so. We found out battery life is almost 2 full days (turn on at 8am turn off whenever) when I forgot to charge them one night. They charge up in about and hour or so (and I can charge them in the tourpak).

Cell phone overrides the intercom and I think it has a distinctive ring - one for numbers in your phone phonebook and one for not in the book.
My phone does not have a very good voice rec - so that feature didn't work too well.

The FM is mediocre and I would not get it for that option. Too hard to operate.

The vox circuit opens up easy and stays open for about 30 seconds.

The only annoyance I had really had nothing to do with the Cardo's. My cell coverage is crap and as the phone would go in and out of service the Cardo's give a brief ring, or in my case with "sprint no-tel" non service an annoying notice. I finally pulled over to pull the phone out of the tourpak and "un bluetooth" it.

Would hate to buy and J&M or someone else come out with something more usable real soon.  But that's the way electronics are I guess.  Bob



Nature of the beast Bob  :nixweiss:
I talked to the J&M people at Americade and some Nolan people. They have nothing like this and you want the same thing I wanted. So this is good.

You can use 3 units. The only caveat is you talk to your passenger and if you want to switch to the other rider you have to hit a button to activate. And you passenger cannot communicate with your "other rider" (3rd unit).

But you daughter could pair "her" bluetooth phone and talk to your wife that way. With family plans it really is a non extra cost issue.



I spoke with J&M's distributor here in Ohio yesterday (Sierra Electronics) and they said their latest Bluetooth headsets would be out by the end of July with the features of the Q2 Cardo Scala and in STEREO.. 


J&M and Sierra (Americade) both told me it would be mono.

Cardo people told me they have a new headset coming out with a 1/8" jack for iPod mp3 use, but not stereo. The actual communicator is separate from the headset.


The speakers are thin and use the velcro "hook" to attach. They stick well to the helmet lining. My helmet (HD) has very little room around the ears, so plcement of the speaker took some time.






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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2008, 02:48:50 PM »

Thanks for the report Duane.  Happy you like them.  Let's see, 3 Q2's, Garmin and mount, and king tour pack and accessories-will have to work some more.  Too bad business isn't better.
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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2008, 03:30:04 PM »

and king tour pack and accessories


Actually Bob, the more I put the tourpak on the less I like it. The Chopped tourpak looks much better. The King is just too bulky looking. I think if I add the lights and trim it will look better, but ..........

I think if I was to do any real travelling I would leave the tourpak off and use a trailer. That idea is more appealing when you get to experience the convenience, even if it wasn't mine  ;)
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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2008, 05:24:02 PM »

That's a nice picture of your bike in the mountains.  They definitely look sportier with the chopped pack.  Now that my plug and play amp is working correctly, I am ok with the sound from the 2 speakers.

Regarding a trailer-while you were away there was a 2000 Bushtec on Craig's list in Colorado for $1450 (look under 3rd party for sale here).  No brainer to go with that over a King pack.

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Re: Anyone try the Cardo bluetooth intercoms yet
« Reply #33 on: June 12, 2008, 05:50:48 PM »

That's a nice picture of your bike in the mountains.  They definitely look sportier with the chopped pack.  Now that my plug and play amp is working correctly, I am ok with the sound from the 2 speakers.

Regarding a trailer-while you were away there was a 2000 Bushtec on Craig's list in Colorado for $1450 (look under 3rd party for sale here).  No brainer to go with that over a King pack.

Bob

as of saturday it was still available.....  he wont ship it...  only sell local..if you need help let me know...  its not far

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« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2008, 09:50:18 AM »

That's a nice picture of your bike in the mountains.  They definitely look sportier with the chopped pack. 


When we went to York I was following my buddy Bob with the teal 05. He had the chopped and I was thinking that looks much better  than the king - maybe HD really wasn't after us to spend more money.

But, I have the king mainly for my wife, the extra support it adds. Don't get me wrong, I have a duffel style rolling suitcase that will hold 5 days worth of clothes and and when I take it out I can throw a full face helmet in for the night. Even with the duffle I can still pack a bunch of other stuff in.

Now that my plug and play amp is working correctly, I am ok with the sound from the 2 speakers.


The rear speaker were originally added for the extra support for the armrest - I caught my wife lifting herself up over bumps by pushing on the armrests. I have the speaker pods butted right up against the arms.

And I can't hear the speakers anyway, they are for her.

The problem with our radio is that it is 2 channels, so all of the speakers are equal volume. I am seriously thinking about adding the Sony, but that has to wait - I bought all LED running lights and Moto lights at Americade last week.  ;D
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