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[JCZ]

Do you have a 110" motor and not had a any major problems?

There are plenty of threads on those that do have issues....just curious about how many feel that they don't have any major problems.

This poll is for those who have a totally stock 110" or have changed the standard A/C, exhaust and ECM only.  If you've made more extensive changes to prevent leak or temp. issues, this poll isn't for you.  Looking for a count on those that have been silent because they haven't had issues.

[LRebel]

I'll be surprised if there are any without problems with over 5K miles.

[bisounours]

With my FLHTCUSE3 :
1600 miles
no problem

Jacques

It was not same with my FLHTCUSE2.

[DESERTBEAR54]

Not many takers!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hummmm?

[brhulen]

Uuuuuh, 600 + miles and no problems (yet!)

[SBB]

I know someone on a 08 SERK that is out of town and has had no trouble.
His miles is getting up there and still no problems.
Not going to mention his name so I don't jinx him.

 

[RioGlide]

I'm afraid to say too much for fear of jinxing myself.

Right at 10K miles.  But so far so good.  So far.

V-rod at the ready, pending the apparently inevitable.

[pokerpig]

Just passed 5000 miles and not a single problem.

[wenchal]

2500 only issue is not so heated grips.

[BalDeagle]

Rear cylinder head gasket leak at 4.6k miles.

Changed headers, mufflers, A/C and put in PCIII at new.

Nige

[LabRat]

What's a major problem? Mine has a very slow oil leak, but haven't taken the time to get into the dealership yet, I'm having too much fun riding. It's an annoyance, but I don't see it as a major problem...yet. It started around 6500 miles, just turned 8000.

[BIGDOG]

1600 miles oil leak rear cylinder base gasket , very miner at this time.

[JHD06]

Have 3,250 miles 08 Casper SEUC and 2,850 on 08 SERK so far no problems on either one. (Waiting on Double Trouble) Bub 7 slip on's, SERT, AC.  #'s RK 90HP/107TK, SEUC 87.4HP/104TK. Out of One Classic, three Ultras the smoothest running bike I have had (wife also confirms this). 

[kojak]

Almost 10k and 18 months and nothing major. Did change a gas gauge and speedo under warranty.

[Twistedrider]

Changed to SuperTrapp SE slipons, SE AC and SERT (o2 Bias tables adjusted) at delivery .. added XiED at 2K miles

3400 miles and so far no problems .... Engine seems to run a lot cooler then my 02 103 

[DAD]

Just turned over 6000 miles and no issues!   
Went to Big Sucker A/C, V&H Tru Duals with stock mufflers, and V&H Fuelpak at 2000 miles.  Engine runs much cooler.

[the barber]

No major problems with almost 5000 miles. I ride every sunny day and sometimes in the rain, and once in snow by accident. My woman says I like the bike more then her, sometimes she right. I don't care if it breaks all the time I still enjoy it every time I sit on it.

[hard10]

...I don't care if it breaks all the time I still enjoy it every time I sit on it.

I'm in total agreement here!

[miker]

Road King:

5200 miles

Rinehart 2-1, K&N af, sert...tuned to 13.5ish afr.  Beat it like a redheaded step child...

Just switched out synlube for redline trans, primary and Mobil V for crank...
Lost 5-10 degrees in op temp to 220 ish(if the pos hd temp dipstick thing is accurate).

Fuse box had some loose backplane issued early on, self fixed.

Took delivery August 07.

I fully expect the crank to walk.

[miker]

Delivery August 06, sorry.   

[Capo]

Delivered March 2008- Stage 1, Rinehart True Duals and PCIII before delivery-then PCIII removed at 700 miles due to crap bottom end...awaiting a Super SERT to give the Rineharts something to exhaust. Coming up on 1700 miles.

[Hugh Janis]

Took delivery Jan 07, just under 8,000 miles with no problems so far.  I changed out the pipes to SE slip ons last august without any other mods.  I added Night Rider IED's last week and it runs cooler and a little bit faster now.  According to the package, the AFR should now be 14.2.  I noticed chrome flaking from right rear end cap over the weekend.  I attributed it to heat since that side gets about 75% of the flow and I had ridden it for 3,000 miles before IED installation.  I can easily change it.

[RedDevil]

Took delivery Nov 06...one head gasket replacement, for very minor leak (just enough of a "stain" on the fin to know it was leaking).  6K mileage, only had to replace the tour pak (leather wearing through on edge) one-time "good faith" replacement by the MoCo.  Other then that, the Jester has been a dream machine.  I love it, and I love everytime I get on it and ride it.  See my signature below for the limited mods I've done.  One of the best mods I added was the IDS pulley.  That really smooths things out.  Came OEM on my SG.  Won't have another bike without it.

   

[tompen]

Early 07 model. 6,000 miles and no problems. I did a power commander and eliminated the cat's in the stock mufflers.  (knock on wood)

[JCZ]

This poll has proven to be even more interesting than I expected.  In less than twenty hours there are 21 people that have 5,000 or more miles that have not had major issues.  So, there are a few out there that haven't had major issues.

[TN]

I'm afraid to say too much for fear of jinxing myself.

Right at 10K miles.  But so far so good.  So far.

V-rod at the ready, pending the apparently inevitable.

i hope you have found the trailer thread......it's a small world, you never know huh.
i think i'll have a revo soon.


sorry for the thread jack.




TN

[Hugh Janis]

sorry for the thread jack.

TN

 

[RioGlide]

i hope you have found the trailer thread......it's a small world, you never know huh.
i think i'll have a revo soon.


sorry for the thread jack.




TN

Heya TN - I'd share the story but I don't think anybody would believe how small the world can be!  I sure was glad you stopped, the world's a better place with guys like you riding down the backroads of it.

You're gonna love the V-Rod, whichever one you pick.  I do love the darkness of the DX, but I sure wouldn't blame ya for picking up one of those gorgeous SE's.

yeah, it is a small world 

[comfortablynumb]

Just got my SEUC3 back from 1K service and all is well. Can't get on the Dyno until June 18 which means also the SuperTrapp SE slip-ons, Super Tuner, SE Stage 1 a/c will go on at the same time, hopefully. Dealer tells me the stock SEUC3 filter cover will not fit over Stage 1 filter so that's another $$$ if true. It's great engineering to pay top dollar for a SEUC3, emphasis on SE, and the SE cover won't fit over the SE filter. Also the cover is on moco back order. Question- has there been any difference in the number of 110 issues for people that dyno'd the bike before breakin as opposed to after?

[Twistedrider]

I have the SE a/c and the stock cover fits fine.

[RedDevil]

I could be wrong, but I think the "football" cover on the 07 and 08 SEUC's are the same.  I've got the SE filter under my cover and there were no issues with it.  This could be another case of a dealer not necessarily being wrong, but mis-informed about the fitment.  I suppose you could dyno a bike before break in, but everyone I talked to, both dealers and indie shops "most highly" recommended that you wait until the break-in is over.

     

[Capo]

I could be wrong, but I think the "football" cover on the 07 and 08 SEUC's are the same.  I've got the SE filter under my cover and there were no issues with it.  This could be another case of a dealer not necessarily being wrong, but mis-informed about the fitment.  I suppose you could dyno a bike before break in, but everyone I talked to, both dealers and indie shops "most highly" recommended that you wait until the break-in is over.

     

My dealer flat out refused to Dyno until 1000 miles they said that is due to the high rpms necessary for a complete Dyno tune-there was not negotiation for what its worth. What are you/they considering break-in?

[RedDevil]

My dealer flat out refused to Dyno until 1000 miles they said that is due to the high rpms necessary for a complete Dyno tune-there was not negotiation for what its worth. What are you/they considering break-in?

My dealer wouldn't dyno the SEUC until the 1K service...that's what they considered the "break-in" period.  I'm going the same route with the Street Glide.  Gonna wait until I have 1K on it at least.

   

[SPIDERMAN]

Sorry to barge in your thread guys, but this seemed like the best place to ask the question(s) I have.

You know how with a 96" motor you can simply change out the top end and have a 103" ?

What can you do with the 110"

Can you put the 113" top end on it ? 

Anything- - - - and I'm talking using H-D parts

B B

[RedDevil]

Sorry to barge in your thread guys, but this seemed like the best place to ask the question(s) I have.

You know how with a 96" motor you can simply change out the top end and have a 103" ?

What can you do with the 110"

Can you put the 113" top end on it ? 

Anything- - - - and I'm talking using H-D parts

B B

BB,
I think Ken, Hogbreath, looked into that and I think the cases have to be bored out and because the 110s use the o-ring seal on the lower end, the 113 mod takes too much surface away to do the o-ring seals....can a gasket be used instead?  That, I'm not smart enough to know.   Ken might be able to answer that better for you.

   

[hunter]

I could be wrong, but I think the "football" cover on the 07 and 08 SEUC's are the same.  I've got the SE filter under my cover and there were no issues with it.  This could be another case of a dealer not necessarily being wrong, but mis-informed about the fitment.

08 SERK with RH TD, Stage I A/c and SERT.  The dealer told me the old cover does fit, but when I checked it later, I noticed that the rubber gasket on the filter was pushed in on top and the bottom. The cover is wide enough but not tall enough for round filter.

Mods were done at delivery.  Runs cool and will do 1000 mile service on Thursday, Dyno on Friday.  I don't trust Sync3 during the Dyno at very high RPM,  I will be putting in AMSOil in engine, tran. and chain.  The only problem so far was with speedo that was changed.

Getting AK-20 and Biyubos   

110" with ETC and ABS rocks. 

[hard10]

As of today there are 64 with no problems. I wonder what the percentage of problems to no problems is? Considering how most people only speak up when they have a problem this is a good showing.

[LabRat]

As of today there are 64 with no problems. I wonder what the percentage of problems to no problems is? Considering how most people only speak up when they have a problem this is a good showing.

He did ask for major problems. I've got a very slow oil leak, but didn't consider that a major problem.

[hard10]

He did ask for major problems. I've got a very slow oil leak, but didn't consider that a major problem.

You'll have to ask JCZ but I would think any oil coming from the engine where it's not supposed to is MAJOR!

[JCZ]

A number of the dealerships in Nor Cal were doing the A/C, exhaust and either PC or RT and dynoing at delivery.  Didn't seem to be an issue.  

There were several articles quoted here back in 04/05 regarding this issue (when a motor is broke in).  I remember that Joe Minton was one of them (American Rider magazine).  He said that with the closer tolerances of todays engineering that these motors are definately broke in, in the first 50 miles (rings seated, etc.).  HD calls for a longer break in period so the rider will get more used to his/her new bike before they get to loose on it.....for liability reasons.  

I'm not sure the title of those threads but for somebody whose got the time to do the search, I'm sure you'll find them.  They're on this site somewhere.

[SPIDERMAN]

BB,
I think Ken, Hogbreath, looked into that and I think the cases have to be bored out and because the 110s use the o-ring seal on the lower end, the 113 mod takes too much surface away to do the o-ring seals....can a gasket be used instead?  That, I'm not smart enough to know.   Ken might be able to answer that better for you.

   

So what you're saying is that there's really nothing much you can do to a 110.

B B

[JCZ]

And back on topic.....while I was sure there were more than a couple who haven't had any major issues with the 110", I've got to say that I am a little surprised at the number that's tallied so far, in this poll.  I guess that's good news for those owners.

[hard10]

So what you're saying is that there's really nothing much you can do to a 110.

B B

As posted elsewhere:

110 CI How much horsepower can I get?

Right after Einstein finished up the E=mc² equation, he set to work on an even more important task.  The result was HP=$³.

Jerry

[SPIDERMAN]

And back on topic.....while I was sure there were more than a couple who haven't had any major issues with the 110", I've got to say that I am a little surprised at the number that's tallied so far, in this poll.  I guess that's good news for those owners.

S'cuse me for breathing

[RedDevil]

So what you're saying is that there's really nothing much you can do to a 110.

B B

BB,
That's what it would appear to me, other than doing the usual top-end stuff (polishing and porting the heads, cams, etc.)  I thought Ken had stated that the 113 jugs use gaskets instead of o-rings.  I don't know if you just leave the o-rings out of the cases and then use the flat gaskets for the 113 jugs or not.   

   

[SPIDERMAN]

BB,
That's what it would appear to me, other than doing the usual top-end stuff (polishing and porting the heads, cams, etc.)  I thought Ken had stated that the 113 jugs use gaskets instead of o-rings.  I don't know if you just leave the o-rings out of the cases and then use the flat gaskets for the 113 jugs or not.   

   

 
Thanks RedDevil
                       Here's my mindset for those who might think I'm taking this thread off topic. DC Fireman has made mention of a letter about to be sent out from the MoCo to 110 owners that may/may not be the resolution to the issues with that motor. If it is or if the MoCo feels it is then obviously the 2008 CVO models will continue to have 110 motors. We've had a pretty solid report that there will be an 09 SERG. Of course that gets me wound up as I love RG's so of course I want one BUT, I have never been one to leave a bike stock. Now I don't get too far out there, but I do like to kinda blueprint em so to speak and either finish what the beancounters at H-D Inc wouldn't let engineering finish or correct what's wrong with em. This thread has been a good source of info to me on what the issues are with them, but I hadn't seen anybody talk about what you could do with off the shelf Screamin Eagle parts with a 110.

B B

[BIGDOG]

Sorry to barge in your thread guys, but this seemed like the best place to ask the question(s) I have.

You know how with a 96" motor you can simply change out the top end and have a 103" ?

What can you do with the 110"

Can you put the 113" top end on it ? 

Anything- - - - and I'm talking using H-D parts

B B

Correct me if we are not talking the same thing but a conversion to a 103 includes a crank , rods and pistons. had it done on an 06 RG then flowed heads.

[naitram]

from 07 and up you already have the crank thas how thet went from 88" to 96"

[SPIDERMAN]

from 07 and up you already have the crank thats how they went from 88" to 96"

 BIGDOG
     So to go from 96" to 103" you only have to change the cylinders and pistons. The spigots are already the correct size for the larger cylinders. Essentially, it's the same mod that used to make a 95" from an 88"


           You were wrong and you've been corrected 

B B

[SBB]

from 07 and up you already have the crank thas how thet went from 88" to 96"

BINGO

Send that man a KIA Honda shirt!

 

[REGGAB]

Thanks RedDevil
                       Here's my mindset for those who might think I'm taking this thread off topic. DC Fireman has made mention of a letter about to be sent out from the MoCo to 110 owners that may/may not be the resolution to the issues with that motor. If it is or if the MoCo feels it is then obviously the 2008 CVO models will continue to have 110 motors. We've had a pretty solid report that there will be an 09 SERG. Of course that gets me wound up as I love RG's so of course I want one BUT, I have never been one to leave a bike stock. Now I don't get too far out there, but I do like to kinda blueprint em so to speak and either finish what the beancounters at H-D Inc wouldn't let engineering finish or correct what's wrong with em. This thread has been a good source of info to me on what the issues are with them, but I hadn't seen anybody talk about what you could do with off the shelf Screamin Eagle parts with a 110.

B B

Where's Travis?

TRAVIS!   

[SPIDERMAN]

Where's Travis?

As in Travesty ? 

B B

[LabRat]

You'll have to ask JCZ but I would think any oil coming from the engine where it's not supposed to is MAJOR!

I guess I put it in perspective. Given the problems that some claim to have had with the 110", a little oil stain on the case to me isn't major. I'll have it fixed, but I just can't seem to want to stop riding it and I'm kinda waiting to see if this magical fix that has been talked about here materializes.

[Dan_Lockwood]

Just got my SEUC3 back from 1K service and all is well. Can't get on the Dyno until June 18 which means also the SuperTrapp SE slip-ons, Super Tuner, SE Stage 1 a/c will go on at the same time, hopefully. Dealer tells me the stock SEUC3 filter cover will not fit over Stage 1 filter so that's another $$$ if true. It's great engineering to pay top dollar for a SEUC3, emphasis on SE, and the SE cover won't fit over the SE filter. Also the cover is on moco back order. Question- has there been any difference in the number of 110 issues for people that dyno'd the bike before breakin as opposed to after?

From what I had to do and from what the service manager told me, the '07s had the round aluminum AC backer plate with the oval cover.  For '07 you only had to add the SE AC to get the air moving.

On the '08 like my SERK-4, I had to buy the new SE backer plate and remove my plastic AC backer plate.  The kit came with the new filter element and it was not the paper kind like in the past.  I installed the new round aluminum SE backer plate, bolted on the new filter and the outer bracket to mount the cover.  I just put on the cover and lined it up with the ground and the rubber outer edge of the filter holds the cover from rotating.  I put back on the little black rubber edge, but on the cover.  This gave me a finished look and the SE AC.  I think the kit was $149.95.  You remove the upper TB bracket and then use the new backer plate to hold the TB in place.

I hope this wasn't redundant to someone else's answer.  I looked but didn't see one.

[RedDevil]

From what I had to do and from what the service manager told me, the '07s had the round aluminum AC backer plate with the oval cover.  For '07 you only had to add the SE AC to get the air moving.

On the '08 like my SERK-4, I had to buy the new SE backer plate and remove my plastic AC backer plate.  The kit came with the new filter element and it was not the paper kind like in the past.  I installed the new round aluminum SE backer plate, bolted on the new filter and the outer bracket to mount the cover.  I just put on the cover and lined it up with the ground and the rubber outer edge of the filter holds the cover from rotating.  I put back on the little black rubber edge, but on the cover.  This gave me a finished look and the SE AC.  I think the kit was $149.95.  You remove the upper TB bracket and then use the new backer plate to hold the TB in place.

I hope this wasn't redundant to someone else's answer.  I looked but didn't see one.

The 07 SERKS had the round filter backing plate, but not the 07 SEUCs.  I had to have that put on and the plastic restricter cup taken off of my football cover.  Don't know why the SEUCs didn't get the SE back plate, but there you have it.

   

[Hoist!]

Thanks RedDevil
                       Here's my mindset for those who might think I'm taking this thread off topic. DC Fireman has made mention of a letter about to be sent out from the MoCo to 110 owners that may/may not be the resolution to the issues with that motor. If it is or if the MoCo feels it is then obviously the 2008 CVO models will continue to have 110 motors. We've had a pretty solid report that there will be an 09 SERG. Of course that gets me wound up as I love RG's so of course I want one BUT, I have never been one to leave a bike stock. Now I don't get too far out there, but I do like to kinda blueprint em so to speak and either finish what the beancounters at H-D Inc wouldn't let engineering finish or correct what's wrong with em. This thread has been a good source of info to me on what the issues are with them, but I hadn't seen anybody talk about what you could do with off the shelf Screamin Eagle parts with a 110.

B B

The only thing bolton you can do to a 110 with HDSE parts is SE 10.5:1 pistons. There are no bolton larger displacement kits for the 110. The SE113 needs to have the cases bored, which is no biggie if you're doing hot rod work on a 110. Cause you better do that bottom end if you're gonna up the HP in these things. Them stock bottom ends can't take much over 100 HP. So I guess you can say it can be made into a SE113. But so can any TC. The O-Ring grooves aren't a issue as you use base gasekets with these cylinders. The Axtell 110 barrels use base gaskets also. We used the O-Ring also to seal the groove.

I wouldn't let this motor stop anyone from buying a bike they love. The motor can be fixed! Damn, HD might even do that one day! After all, it ain't rocket science!!!

Hoist!

[Dan_Lockwood]

The 07 SERKS had the round filter backing plate, but not the 07 SEUCs.  I had to have that put on and the plastic restricter cup taken off of my football cover.  Don't know why the SEUCs didn't get the SE back plate, but there you have it.

   

Thanks for the correction.

    

[SPIDERMAN]

The only thing bolton you can do to a 110 with HDSE parts is SE 10.5:1 pistons. There are no bolton larger displacement kits for the 110. The SE113 needs to have the cases bored, which is no biggie if you're doing hot rod work on a 110. Cause you better do that bottom end if you're gonna up the HP in these things. Them stock bottom ends can't take much over 100 HP. So I guess you can say it can be made into a SE113. But so can any TC. The O-Ring grooves aren't a issue as you use base gasekets with these cylinders. The Axtell 110 barrels use base gaskets also. We used the O-Ring also to seal the groove.

I wouldn't let this motor stop anyone from buying a bike they love. The motor can be fixed! Damn, HD might even do that one day! After all, it ain't rocket science!!!

Hoist!

Not all of us are Rockefeller cousins Howard

B B

[Hoist!]

Not all of us are Rockefeller cousins Howard

B B

That's the only answer to your original question. $ aside, that's your only SE choice with a 110.

Hoist!

[SPIDERMAN]

That's the only answer to your original question. $ aside, that's your only SE choice with a 110.

Hoist!

Which is why if the 2009 SERG is a 110, I'll pass.

It cost me under $5k parts (including breather,exhaust and SERT) and labor to bump LD from a 96" to a 103" As I recall the total was around $4,700.

Pull the motor, bore the case yada yada yada and you're over $10k. I'd be better off spending the $10k on a TP 124 for LD.

B B

[Hoist!]

Which is why if the 2009 SERG is a 110, I'll pass.

It cost me under $5k parts (including breather,exhaust and SERT) and labor to bump LD from a 96" to a 103" As I recall the total was around $4,700.

Pull the motor, bore the case yada yada yada and you're over $10k. I'd be better off spending the $10k on a TP 124 for LD.

B B

$8500 to rebuild a 110 with all the best chit, including new HD cases. $6800 for a new Jims 120. Jims has a 131 too. Those are you options. And you ain't putting a TP or anything else in a 110 or LD or any other '06 Dyna/'07/'08 without changing everything else too (trans, I&O primary, yada, yada, yada)! There are no engine replacements for these bikes except a Jims as of now. HD pantents. Better do your homework dude!

Hoist!

[SPIDERMAN]

Nice to see your vacation helped you chill out a bit


B B

[hard10]

Nice to see your vacation helped you chill out a bit


B B

I was just thinking the same thing! No f this, f that. Almost civil.

[SBB]

I was just thinking the same thing! No f this, f that. Almost civil.

O Yoda Master of Sarcasm!

Give it time.
He is from New York.
Ken told me when he went up there it almost ruined him also.
But at least Cybil is running good!
We have to be thankful for small things!

 

[SPIDERMAN]

Love the new tag line above your avatar AJ

You're doin good livin up to it too

[hard10]

O Yoda Master of Sarcasm!

Give it time.
He is from New York.
Ken told me when he went up there it almost ruined him also.
But at least Cybil is running good!
We have to be thankful for small things!

 

This might explain it but I wouldn't know. I placed a self imposed restriction on reading the Cybil thread.

[SBB]

This might explain it but I wouldn't know. I placed a self imposed restriction on reading the Cybil thread.

Is this the AJ I know?
Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm betting Linda's loving this!
Cool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Hoist!]

WTF ya'll talkin about? Mellow?

F'in A Cybil's runnin good! Almost keeps up with that little ole SEVROD of Ken's. Even beats it when he hits the rev limiter!

I had such a great time riding that it'll take at least til the end of the night to light me up. So ya'll might as well go for it now!

Hoist!

[Ghost Rider]

Thanks RedDevil
                       Here's my mindset for those who might think I'm taking this thread off topic. DC Fireman has made mention of a letter about to be sent out from the MoCo to 110 owners that may/may not be the resolution to the issues with that motor. If it is or if the MoCo feels it is then obviously the 2008 CVO models will continue to have 110 motors. We've had a pretty solid report that there will be an 09 SERG. Of course that gets me wound up as I love RG's so of course I want one BUT, I have never been one to leave a bike stock. Now I don't get too far out there, but I do like to kinda blueprint em so to speak and either finish what the beancounters at H-D Inc wouldn't let engineering finish or correct what's wrong with em. This thread has been a good source of info to me on what the issues are with them, but I hadn't seen anybody talk about what you could do with off the shelf Screamin Eagle parts with a 110.

B B

Dang it Big B, I thought you and I had this "beancounter" issue ironed out.  Please refrain from blaming ACCOUNTANTS for issues created by executive management.    

[FLYNDYNA]

7,500 miles and no problems yet...(as I knock on wood). Hoping to do the Jim's when I get the money saved up...

Flyndyna

[Twolanerider]

Dang it Big B, I thought you and I had this "beancounter" issue ironed out.  Please refrain from blaming ACCOUNTANTS for issues created by executive management.    

So they (you) don't cause the mistakes.  You just count them .

[Ghost Rider]

So they (you) don't cause the mistakes.  You just count them .

Exactly...hey wait a minute...

[SPIDERMAN]

Dang it Big B, I thought you and I had this "beancounter" issue ironed out.  Please refrain from blaming ACCOUNTANTS for issues created by executive management.    

Well I've been referred to as an "Effin Engineer" on more than one occasion by a Production Super who wanted to ignore proper engineering principals Ship's Specs, safety factors even telemetry issues so he could meet schedule. My point about the beancounters is sometimes accounting has to step in a tell Sr Management what the cost of something is. Any engineer worth his salt wants everything perfect. 99% of all execs just want to count the money. Marketing wants to trumpet to world they've got the best product on the market and so forth. Most products find their way to market via a process involving all parties. The beancounters get the blame whenever a product has to be made more cost effective. But marketing is to blame also because they say " well it won't sell at $300 above our target price" And of course you're right, it comes down to the Execs to make the final decision. That being said, there's a process we repair ships by these days called SHIPMAIN. It was invented by, championed by and is administered by beancounters. Sorry dude, nothing personal but we all have our personal boogeyman. That's mine.

B B

[Ghost Rider]

Its all good B B.  Were just firing more shoots in the long standing fued between accountants and engineers.  Its just the term that gets under my skin.  If you wanted to call me an "Effin Accountant" or even an "Effin Chithead Accountant" that would be better.  Don uses the term "Labelcounter" which is, I guess, technically what I do so you can throw that in as well.   

[SBB]

Its all good B B.  Were just firing more shoots in the long standing fued between accountants and engineers.  Its just the term that gets under my skin.  If you wanted to call me an "Effin Accountant" or even an "Effin Chithead Accountant" that would be better.  Don uses the term "Labelcounter" which is, I guess, technically what I do so you can throw that in as well.   

Travis

That would make you very special in an elite class.
Is that a problem.




Just remember, I didn't say high class, just class!

 

[Ghost Rider]

Travis

That would make you very special in an elite class.
Is that a problem.




Just remember, I didn't say high class, just class!

 

If I were high class would I hang around with you guys?   

I thought being a CPA would give me class, but I think with all of my CVO friends being an ECA will garnish more respect.  Now if I could just get me one of those EBCM numbers, my life would be complete.   

[SBB]

If I were high class would I hang around with you guys?    

I thought being a CPA would give me class, but I think with all of my CVO friends being an ECA will garnish more respect.  Now if I could just get me one of those EBCM numbers, my life would be complete.   

Good point!

 

[Steve_G]

What was this thread supposed to be about?  Oh yeah, a poll for stock 110's with no problems.  My bike is completely stock, and I have to say I enjoy it.  I have plenty of power, and I actually like the stock exhaust.  Only about 2,400 miles on her so far, but no engine problems.  Obviously, I'm keeping my fingers crossed about the leak problem, but I'm hoping that if I do have a problem that the Mo Co will have a permanent fix by then.

[Sgt072]

Over 6000 miles and not problem until I took it in for the 5k, A tooth was broken off the primary gear.  Had to leave on a trip the next day and of course they had to order the parts.  They buttoned it up and no problems.  Parts should be in this week.

[SPIDERMAN]

What was this thread supposed to be about?  Oh yeah, a poll for stock 110's with no problems.  My bike is completely stock, and I have to say I enjoy it.  I have plenty of power, and I actually like the stock exhaust.  Only about 2,400 miles on her so far, but no engine problems.  Obviously, I'm keeping my fingers crossed about the leak problem, but I'm hoping that if I do have a problem that the Mo Co will have a permanent fix by then.

Like I said before, sorry to barge into your thread BUT, since the main purpose of this website is to share info, who better to ask about the 110 motors than all the people who own one. And what better way to decide on whether or not to buy one than reading about the problems or lack of that those with them have( or don't) And if not , why don't they - - ie: did they leave everythings stock etc etc. Your post above for instance would support my theory  that if you leave the bike bone stock you won't have any issues with the 110 motor. Since there isn't a snowball's chance in hell I would do that, I'm still looking for more answers

B B

[4pops]

Have an 08 110, just got back from a 2600 mile week in the hills of Tennessee, have just over 6500 miles on it, not a single prob, less u cant the perma grin, on my face.

[sadunbar]

Have an 08 110, just got back from a 2600 mile week in the hills of Tennessee, have just over 6500 miles on it, not a single prob, less u cant the perma grin, on my face.

Sounds like you had a great trip!  Good luck with the ride!

[SMOKIN' JACKET]

No problems in 1500 miles on my SE Springer 08.  I added the 2.25 Rush slip ons, but the dealership did no mapping or dyno work.  I need to schedule my first service.  Maybe they will recommend a dyno at that time?

NO other problems, except with the flush gas cap.  The trim ring has fallen off two times, and now the springs in the cap are exposed and it doesn't close properly.

Marie

[rayz1951]

I have over 2100 miles and no problemo's.

08 seuc
100.4 H.P. 120 TK.
A.C
SERT
Bub 7 true duals without crossover
Mods done recently.

[LabRat]

I have over 2100 miles and no problemo's.

08 seuc
100.4 H.P. 120 TK.
A.C
SERT
Bub 7 true duals without crossover
Mods done recently.

That's all you did and got 100+/100+. What AC did you do?

[Keats]

I have over 2100 miles and no problemo's.

08 seuc
100.4 H.P. 120 TK.
A.C
SERT
Bub 7 true duals without crossover
Mods done recently.

I would love those numbers........120 ft lbs torque with only duals , sert and a/c......I basically had same thing done and was under 100 ft lbs
I would be very skeptical of those numbers

[LabRat]

I would love those numbers........120 ft lbs torque with only duals , sert and a/c......I basically had same thing done and was under 100 ft lbs
I would be very skeptical of those numbers

Jeff,
I hear you. I'm finally going to do the same set-up as he describes in a couple weeks. Can't wait.

[alf]

FLHTCUSE3 2008 NO issue No problems, just think the GPS sucks for that kind of money. Anyway that is all I can complain about. Just got back few days ago from 1800 mile 5 day road trip.

[RedDevil]

Jeff,
I hear you. I'm finally going to do the same set-up as he describes in a couple weeks. Can't wait.

There's so many variables in attaining numbers on the dyno...relative humidity and tempurature in the dyno room, altitude, etc...You can go to two different dynos and tuners with the same bike on the same day and obtain different results.  The main thing is that you have optimum tuning for your bike.   I'm a little skeptical of those numbers too.  They are high for those limited mods with no apparent cam change.  My numbers with the mods I did (see under my picture), were 90 hp 108 TQ.  I was happy with those numbers with just opening up the breathing.  

  

[alf]

FLHTCUSE3 2008 NO issue No problems, just think the GPS sucks for that kind of money. Anyway that is all I can complain about. Just got back few days ago from 1800 mile 5 day road trip.

BONE STOCK NOT ANY CHANGES YET BUT THE URGE IS THERE - KNOW WHAT i MEAN!!!!

[Keats]

Jeff,
I hear you. I'm finally going to do the same set-up as he describes in a couple weeks. Can't wait.

good luck with the setup John,  you have left the oil leak alone for now?

I was thinking of you last weekend....rode with a group to Rock Hall last Sunday for crabs at Watermans Crab House...very good

I would have called, but I was not planning on going (fathers day) but last min changed my mind and went

great ride down 896 and down 213

[LabRat]

good luck with the setup John,  you have left the oil leak alone for now?

I was thinking of you last weekend....rode with a group to Rock Hall last Sunday for crabs at Watermans Crab House...very good

I would have called, but I was not planning on going (fathers day) but last min changed my mind and went

great ride down 896 and down 213

I can't wait. My brother's shop is doing it the last weekend in June. He's having a street party at his dealership in Bay City, MI and we're going out for it.

As to the oil leak, it's slow and I've got 9300 miles. I figure they deal with it when it goes in for the 10,000 mile service.

[Steve_G]

Is a leak a major problem, or am I reading the wrong thread?  (Isn't this thread one for NO major problems?)

[SPIDERMAN]

Is a leak a major problem, or am I reading the wrong thread?  (Isn't this thread one for NO major problems?)

A leak is a major problem, but I'll let the experts answer why

B B

[Janine]

2625 miles on mine with no problems, 'cept I have to go to work when I'd rather be riding!

[LabRat]

Is a leak a major problem, or am I reading the wrong thread?  (Isn't this thread one for NO major problems?)

When I first replied, I had no problems. The leak only recently started. I've been holding off getting it fixed because of the chatter about an eminent fix. I will be making an appointment on Friday for the 10,000 mile service and to get the leak fixed.
 

[Snowrdr]

8500 miles (knock on wood) no problem

[SERK3]

07 SERK, 10,500 MILES, NO PROBLEMS WITH MOTOR, JUST CRUISE CONTROL.

[Georgehjr]

Just got my 1,000 check up, no problem, however this weekend pulled the bike out to wash, oil on the ground, Me thinks the dude did not clean up after his self, As of now , floor is clean, if it would stop raining here I could ride and find out, Oh well forcast is maybe good for Weds..........

[Capo]

When I first replied, I had no problems. The leak only recently started. I've been holding off getting it fixed because of the chatter about an eminent fix. I will be making an appointment on Friday for the 10,000 mile service and to get the leak fixed.
 

LabRat,

Same with me! Except I am not waiting-they can do it twice-

[LabRat]

LabRat,

Same with me! Except I am not waiting-they can do it twice-

I had it in MI this past weekend to get Bub7's, a new SERT and a SEAC on at my brother's shop and the head wrench admitted that the 110"s have a tendency to leak mostly from the head gasket. Mine looks like it is coming from the base gasket. I dropped it off at my local shop this morning for the 10k and to fix the leak. The wrench there talked about the service bulletin. They hadn't torn it apart yet, so time will tell.

BTW, love those Bub7's.
 

[cuttinhorse]

136 miles and not one single problem!

I take that back.........my wife wanted me to hurry home from picking it up from dealer so she cud see it and I wanted to keep ridin

[LabRat]

Well, looks like my oil was coming from the breather bolt and not a gasket leak. I'll keep in clean and keep an eye on it to make sure. So I guess I can go back to "no major problems".

[Keats]

Well, looks like my oil was coming from the breather bolt and not a gasket leak. I'll keep in clean and keep an eye on it to make sure. So I guess I can go back to "no major problems".

That is real good news........I am up tp 5k with no leaks, so far  pretty good

[SPIDERMAN]

That is real good news........I am up tp 5k with no leaks, so far  pretty good

While good news for you FLHTCUSE3 , it is a sorry state of affairs that we are even discussing it


B B

[Keats]

While good news for you FLHTCUSE3 , it is a sorry state of affairs that we are even discussing it


B B

Brian, you are so right....with these costing as much as they do having a conversation about the inevitable blown gasket is crazy......

I am paralyzed with a inability to modify the engine for fear that it will act up and be voided of warranty......I have never owned anything like it before.

Mine is running awefully good right now......hope that was not the jinx

[courter]

While good news for you FLHTCUSE3 , it is a sorry state of affairs that we are even discussing it


B B

Indeed.  Change my vote to over 5k with no problems, but it is a sorry state of affairs. 

[hafbad0]

I purchased it August 11, 07 and the only problem that I have encountered is a blow out at 90 mph on the freeway.  As of today I have 9,343 trouble free mile and the gas milage is getting better every tank.  

[HD46FL]

I have 11k on my SE Ultra and nothing more then the fuel filter snafu, which was fixed in 30 minutes.  I would like to get better fuel mileage, my 06 Ultra gets 45, I have yet to break 40, any suggestoins.

[Keats]

Maybe the question needs to be how many problems have occured to 2007 units vs 2008?

I do not know the answer, but from a distance it is either true that the 2008 are doing better or just have lower mileage on them........just a thought

has anyone compiled any statistical data?

it has to be a random sample, so you gather all of the information on all of the bikes 2007 vs 2008 and randomly pick a sample from both hoping that we could get a sample to represent the population.

It is based on the fact that the membership is not skewed already.

[56FLE]

I made it to 16K, now I have the head gasket problem, dealer fixing it as I type. My 08 SERK had the old head gaskets with the tab so it will be interesting to see how the new improved head gasket fairs. I'm looking to put another 15K on this July/August.

[gunrunner]

I would be helpful to know how many 110s have had problems to compare %

[srxdude]

I have 12k on my 08 110 EG. I took delivery the 6th of May 08. I just put on VH monster ovals with the fuel pack and VH vo2 air cleaner. The bike runs great with great mileage 47mpg average. Have had no major problems as of yet, knock on wood, but am very happy with the bike.

[Dan_Lockwood]

I have 12k on my 08 110 EG. I took delivery the 6th of May 08. I just put on VH monster ovals with the fuel pack and VH vo2 air cleaner. The bike runs great with great mileage 47mpg average. Have had no major problems as of yet, knock on wood, but am very happy with the bike.

Wow SRXDude, you've been rolling that baby down the road....... A LOT. 

I often wonder about mileage when a Canadian lists their mileage.  Is this an Imperial gallon, or US gallon?  Heck, I've not been to Canada in so long I can't remember.  I used to live in Michigan and I'd get across the water a couple times a year, but not since '02.

I'm glad you're trouble free and enjoying the nice ride.

Good luck and have fun....

[megavolt17]

There needs to be a "Remove Vote" link as some of the other polls have.  As time goes on some of the people with no problems may develop them, and most of us will have more miles on the bike.

I personally don't know how to remove votes, or how to even set up a survey...

[Twolanerider]

There needs to be a "Remove Vote" link as some of the other polls have.  As time goes on some of the people with no problems may develop them, and most of us will have more miles on the bike.

I personally don't know how to remove votes, or how to even set up a survey...

The person who set up the poll can either allow that or not allow it.  But the whole thread has a premise of "tell me good stuff about what bad hasn't happened, yet?".  Political pollsters get paid good money for framing questions like that.

[WFP]

I have 12k on my 08 110 EG. I took delivery the 6th of May 08. I just put on VH monster ovals with the fuel pack and VH vo2 air cleaner. The bike runs great with great mileage 47mpg average. Have had no major problems as of yet, knock on wood, but am very happy with the bike.

12 Kilometers or 12K Miles?

I got mine on 7 May and am at 7850 miles oh, and a nail in and out of a tire right now!

[Lucky Rick]

Took delivery 4/7/08  (Born on date 3/14/08)  Rolled up 6200 miles this afternoon.  All stock.  Heated hand grips have been only problem to date.  I'm happy and smiling.

[DESERTBEAR54]

14,650 miles on my 08 SEUC that I bought in Nov of 07. Both Cylinders replaced with new/old head gasket and new pistons and rings.Running stronger now than she ever did.

[Hoist!]

I guess you can add all the '09 CVO's to this list...........................................(For now, anyway, they haven't shipped any yet!)

Hoist!

[youngdave]

 :)25,000 kilometres, halfway round Australia and back, many a trip down the 1/4 mile (runs in the 12's)
with no problems at all. Love every minute of this bike
youngdave

[comfortablynumb]

I was one happy camper to have included my bike is this thread but perhaps I spoke too soon as it is now included in the product improvement campaign.

[Buvy]

Took delivery June 30, 2007

5,128 miles

SERT
SEAC
V&H Big Shot Duals

All were installed when I took the bike in for the 1,000 mile service which as has been stated above the dealership wouldn't dyno the bike until I had hit 1,000 miles.

No problems to speak of except for my cruise control went on the fritz but was fixed under warranty.

I do live in Michigan so I haven't done any extreme heat riding obviously.

With that said I still did the 7 (nee 5) year ESP

[Grizzly]

I have over 12,000 on my #601 with no problems at all... Touch wood!

I simply love my bike.


     Grizzly

[strohkr]

2007 SERK - Creeping up on 8K with no problems (yet) - kinda wondering if I should do the "performance update" since I haven't had any problems - might be opening a can of worms! But then I could change the cams while they're doing the update. OR.....maybe trade for a 2009?
Decisions....decisions....decisions....

[T MAC]

Been Offline awhile the wife and I just had twins - they are 5 months 11 days today so I have not had much time to ride or type or sleep .

Appreciate the picture of the new CVO's and the recall information I always have the information before my local dealer does. 

I have just over 4200 miles on Mustang Sally.  The heated grips have gone out getting them replaced Monday.  I added Rinehart slip ons, a techlusion(dealer recommended because he said it could be removed with no trace for warranty) and they updated the mapping.  I just had service completed on the 5k and they adjusted the techlusion and the bike ran awesome on the way home.  It is about an hour drive and the difference was dramatic in power, sound and how well the bike ran.  Went out to the garage the next day and there is an oil leak on the floor.  I wipe it up thinking maybe a small amount when the oil was changed it continues to puddle for the next 5 days so I am not sure if I have a problem or not.  They are going to check on Monday when the grips are replaced - I hope there are no major issues I am heading to Oregon for the weekend.

I installed a 4 set of hogtunes today and I don't think I would have without all the information on this website.  I am one of the members that doesn't get a chance to write often but I appreciate all the information I get here. 

So THANKS to everyone for all the information and the laughter that goes with it!

[graygost267]

   
Graygost267 here and I have 7,220 miles on my 08 FLHTCUSE3, crystal copper and bold black and have not had a single problem with my scoot.  I have number 63 of 1800.  Just got a recall notice regarding the fuel filter.  Dealer hasn't received the parts yet.  I have done very little upgrading to the bike since I bought it, except for a few pieces of chrome.  Intend to have SE Pro touring street pipes and SE AC installed this weekend along with some lights and other accessories.  Got to have it dressed for the trip to Milwaukee later this month.  Looking forward to meeting as many member as I can at the party.

[Spanish Flyer]

As soon as I did my 500 mile service "Zpringer 08" I installed the suction filter that comes with the standard USA 110 and SE slipons or mufflers instead of the horrible euro standard. that included a Tmax. Since I got it in Feb 08 my only complaints are crankcase bolt leak and ACR's. No leaks from the gaskets but I'm fully aware that allowing my euro restrained engine to breathe and increasing the AFR in the right direction has done wonders to my engine. I have however been called in for a head gasket replacement.

My Springer brakes are non existent, but I guess that's the price of buying a CVO Harley; on the 2009 model it get's 4 piston treatment... wouldn't that be contemplated as another warranty covered "improvement"?

Spanish Flyer

[Sioux City Bob]

Screaming Eagle Ultra with 3900 milesa and no problems.  Runs great and is much fun.  Stock pipes, race tunner, upgraded air cleaner dyno tuned to run 13.8 instead of 14.7 or so as in stock lean set up. 

[Air-Cooled]

I did the exact same with my '07 Springer: richened the mixture and left it stock, no leaks 4000 miles later.

[Cyphers]

At 5000 mile service I added the HD oil cooler.  Everything else is stock and I've had no issues and am at 6200 miles now.  (knock on wood)

[miker]

Just passed 6k, no leak related problems.

[Hugh Janis]

I'm at 10,000 with no leak yet.  Spoke with owner of Buffalo HD yesterday for a while and he told me he hasn't seen any in his shop.  I told him I haven't received my recall notice yet but my VIN on the HD site tells me what it's getting.  He doesn't have any of the kits in yet.

You guys ROCK!    I'd never have known ANY of this otherwise and I'd have the dealer telling me I'm full of crap.

[SEaglesfly]

1900 miles front head gasket blows I loose power nearly down the bike did go off the road. Riding  in traffic at the time no where to go, of course the big HD customer service department ( Lame ) thought it was no big deal . As far as I'm concerned this is a big problem to me and I think they should take it very serious but they don't . If not  I think there will be some major problems for 07-08  110 ci owners in the near future. Beware Brothers.

[Air-Cooled]

1900 miles front head gasket blows I loose power nearly down the bike did go off the road. Riding  in traffic at the time no where to go, of course the big HD customer service department ( Lame ) thought it was no big deal . As far as I'm concerned this is a big problem to me and I think they should take it very serious but they don't . If not  I think there will be some major problems for 07-08  110 ci owners in the near future. Beware Brothers.

This is a thread for people with no problems. There are other threads for people with leaks and customer service complaints.

[SEaglesfly]

I would think when your looking out for a fellow biker it would not mater what kind of thread it was. Just giving Heads Up for SAFETY .

[Air-Cooled]

Do you have a 110" motor and not had a any major problems?

There are plenty of threads on those that do have issues....just curious about how many feel that they don't have any major problems.

This poll is for those who have a totally stock 110" or have changed the standard A/C, exhaust and ECM only.  If you've made more extensive changes to prevent leak or temp. issues, this poll isn't for you.  Looking for a count on those that have been silent because they haven't had issues.

Please... as you can see above, the initial poster specifically asked that this thread be for those who do NOT have problems.  I'm not denying any safety issues, just please stay on topic for those like myself who are trying to sift through things.

[springerdude]

3800 miles so far, changed pipes and added sert at 650 miles, no problems yet  . Bike runs strong  VIN does have the recall listed for head gaskets though   

[Spanish Flyer]

Mine leaks from the  case bolt, but still doesn't leak from the head gaskets or similar lower gaskets. I have received the info for a head gasket replacement, but it does not include ACR's or valve guides, just gaskets. The bike runs fine otherwise. Have installed bigger sucktion and open pipes, so I hope it stays that way till the dealer has all the spares....