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[DCFIREMANN]

Well got a call yesterday about the 110 fix. MOST OF THE DEALERS GOT A TSB on the fix yesterday!

It seems the MOCO doesn't think there is a lot wrong with the engineering of the 110.

The fix will includes (are you ready for this) new gaskets, new valve guides and new auto compression releases. NO CYLINDERS or PISTONS!!!!!

Well I have a problem now. I am ready to purchased a 2008 Duracell Dyna with the famous 110 motor. It is also a early 2008 model that is known to have the problem gaskets. I guess I need to wait till tuesday and decide if I really want it now.

For all the guys I have given S#$T to in the past (except Howie) LOL. I am  sorry. I thought the MOCO would go a little farther on the fix. I knew it would come but thought it would be a lot more than this.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

[BalDeagle]

I think this could be referred to as trying to kill an elephant with an airgun.

Very cheap, annoying to the Elephant and everybody ends with Chit on their faces - again!

Way to go MoCo!

Nige

[cowboy7123]

For them to do this so called fix, does the motor need to be leaking or do I just take the bike in and tell them to do the TSB

[HogBreath]

Being as I've bought enough Harley's to choke a bull this past few years, they sent me a letter outlining the fix months ago. In summary it said:

http://www.jimsusa.com/index.html

[Black Diamond]

Well got a call yesterday about the 110 fix. MOST OF THE DEALERS GOT A TSB on the fix yesterday!

It seems the MOCO doesn't think there is a lot wrong with the engineering of the 110.

The fix will includes (are you ready for this) new gaskets, new valve guides and new auto compression releases. NO CYLINDERS or PISTONS!!!!!

Well I have a problem now. I am ready to purchased a 2008 Duracell Dyna with the famous 110 motor. It is also a early 2008 model that is known to have the problem gaskets. I guess I need to wait till tuesday and decide if I really want it now.

For all the guys I have given S#$T to in the past (except Howie) LOL. I am  sorry. I thought the MOCO would go a little farther on the fix. I knew it would come but thought it would be a lot more than this.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

I was at my dealer. He said the 110 heads are being replaced also because the valve guides are dropping out on some of them. Is it the heads or are they just installing valve guides? Maybe I misunderstood him?

JW

[Black Diamond]

Oh ya, I voted BS. I have already experienced the famous cylinder liner shuffle. Ain't no gasket going to stop that.

JW

[grc]

Just as I thought, they have decided to use the same approach with the cylinders that they used with the cranks; Problem, we don't see no stinkin' problem!  They have obviously passed this off as a short term vendor quality issue, rather than the design issue I'm certain many of us see as being at the root of this.  I'd love to hear them explain why a 4.000 bore doesn't require a different cylinder than a 3.750 bore, but a 4.060 bore requires a completely different cylinder for the 113.  Why didn't they pass off the dropped valve guide issue the same way?  With the proper interference fit, a retainer ring shouldn't be needed.  Obviously another vendor quality issue (and one that has affected a much smaller number of people than the leak).

I sure hope that parts kit contains lots of spare studs and nuts and bolts.  With all the disassembly and reassembly and disassembly and reassembly going on until these engines finally expire, all the threads will be worn out.  And when many folks continue to experience leaks after this "fix", I'll love to see what the reaction to that will be.  Will we finally see a real fix, or another round of BS until everyone either gives up or sues the bastards.

I think I just got my answer about trading in my current POS on a new SERG POS - when both pigs and elephants fly.

Jerry

[Hoist!]

Just as I thought, they have decided to use the same approach with the cylinders that they used with the cranks; Problem, we don't see no stinkin' problem!  They have obviously passed this off as a short term vendor quality issue, rather than the design issue I'm certain many of us see as being at the root of this.  I'd love to hear them explain why a 4.000 bore doesn't require a different cylinder than a 3.750 bore, but a 4.060 bore requires a completely different cylinder for the 113.  Why didn't they pass off the dropped valve guide issue the same way?  With the proper interference fit, a retainer ring shouldn't be needed.  Obviously another vendor quality issue (and one that has affected a much smaller number of people than the leak).

I sure hope that parts kit contains lots of spare studs and nuts and bolts.  With all the disassembly and reassembly and disassembly and reassembly going on until these engines finally expire, all the threads will be worn out.  And when many folks continue to experience leaks after this "fix", I'll love to see what the reaction to that will be.  Will we finally see a real fix, or another round of BS until everyone either gives up or sues the bastards.

I think I just got my answer about trading in my current POS on a new SERG POS - when both pigs and elephants fly.

Jerry

HeHeHe! Guess there's no sense in me chiming in now! Spot on as always Jerry!

Hoist!

[hogasm]

Well got a call yesterday about the 110 fix. MOST OF THE DEALERS GOT A TSB on the fix yesterday!

It seems the MOCO doesn't think there is a lot wrong with the engineering of the 110.

The fix will includes (are you ready for this) new gaskets, new valve guides and new auto compression releases. NO CYLINDERS or PISTONS!!!!!

Well I have a problem now. I am ready to purchased a 2008 Duracell Dyna with the famous 110 motor. It is also a early 2008 model that is known to have the problem gaskets. I guess I need to wait till tuesday and decide if I really want it now.

For all the guys I have given S#$T to in the past (except Howie) LOL. I am  sorry. I thought the MOCO would go a little farther on the fix. I knew it would come but thought it would be a lot more than this.

Be Safe

THE DAWG

Dawg as of last night I could not find the SB on the fix. The last thing listed for the SE's was the heated seat wiring.

Maybe they just can't send the SB to everyone at one time, and it takes a couple of days for everyone to get it

I'll look again this evening for it.

[sportygordy]

and the same cheap Crank.... Man, these 110's are going to be wall papper at the service centers nationwide after Aug 2009..

[RedDevil]

Well, I look at it this way...if getting the minuscule amount of parts put in, fixes the problem, then it IS "The Fix".  If it doesn't fix the problem, then it's BS and it's back to the drawing board for the MoCo.  I have a 7 year ESP, and a Street Glide in the garage that I can ride if/when the Jester's in the shop, so I'm confident that they'll either keep having to "band-aid" it, or it will be fixed.  But I'll still be riding either way.  

  

[Capo]

I'll be like the President from Missouri....SHOW ME!

Ride Sfae!

[cowboy7123]

Dawg as of last night I could not find the SB on the fix. The last thing listed for the SE's was the heated seat wiring.

Maybe they just can't send the SB to everyone at one time, and it takes a couple of days for everyone to get it

I'll look again this evening for it.

whats up with the seat wiring?

[Twolanerider]

whats up with the seat wiring?

After yesterday I was hoping there'd be no more spews today.      Should've known better.

Cowboy, there wasn't any problem with the seat wiring.  In another thread where folks were discussing HD's lack of response to the issues so many are facing; a very serious issue, some sarcastic dipstick SOB with no sense of propriety whatsoever suggested a new service bulletin was going to detail a need to install a new rheostat control in line to the seat wiring.  Because the engine problems were due to overheating from the heated seat working too well.

I am very sorry that someone offered up such a sarcastic suggestion on such a serious issue.  Someone should be punished.  But, come to think of it, that's been discussed elsewhere too .

[sadunbar]

After yesterday I was hoping there'd be no more spews today.      Should've known better.

Cowboy, there wasn't any problem with the seat wiring.  In another thread where folks were discussing HD's lack of response to the issues so many are facing; a very serious issue, some sarcastic dipstick SOB with no sense of propriety whatsoever suggested a new service bulletin was going to detail a need to install a new rheostat control in line to the seat wiring.  Because the engine problems were due to overheating from the heated seat working too well.

I am very sorry that someone offered up such a sarcastic suggestion on such a serious issue.  Someone should be punished.  But, come to think of it, that's been discussed elsewhere too .

hehe      discussed and suggested.....  but acted upon??