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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2008, 12:53:43 PM »

1987 CONTINUED:

The transmission was new for '87 and stayed almost identical in many ways for years.  The exception is the tapered mainshaft.  This is not "bad" but many prefer the later model splined mainshaft.  The tapered mainshaft does make it a little more critical when you're reinstalling a clutch to make sure that the keyway is in correctly.  The 1987 clutch has been known to have one of the four "towers" that holds down the diaphragm spring break.  This does not always happen and is more likely on a high mileage bike.  Some decide upon a  Barnett Scorpion clutch to replace it with.
The engine is a bottom breather which some prefer.


In 1988,

1988 FXR Super Glide
1988 FXRS Low Rider  <~~ 1st Year Of “Wrinkle Black” Trim Panel & Instrument Housing similar to FXR2 & FXR3
1988 FXRS Low Rider 85th Anniversary Edition
1988 FXRS-SP Low Rider Sport Edition
1988 FXLR Low Rider Custom
1988 FXRT Sport Glide
1988 FXRP Pursuit Glide:  Police Version Of FXRT
  The FXRS Sport Edition was finally given it's own letter designation for 1988, now being called the FXRS-SP Low Rider Sport Edition.  It's front suspension was improved by the addition of a simpler version of the air-assisted antidive system first used on the FXRT Sport Glide in 1983.  Instead of a seperate two-chamber reservoir with a rubber bladder between the chambers, the FXRS-SP system used the sealed handlebar as the system's air reservoir, and included a schrader valve on the left side of the handlebar as a means to adjust air pressure.

HD UPGRADES ALL FORKS ON FXR MODELS IN 1988 WITH 39mm THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY USED ON THE 1987 FXRS LOW RIDER SPORT EDITION AND THE 1987 FXLR LOW RIDER IN 1987


In 1989,
1989 FXR Super Glide
1989 FXRS Low Rider
1989 FXRS-SP Low Rider Sport Edition
1989 FXRS-Conv.  Low Rider Convertible
1989 FXLR Low Rider Custom
1989 FXRT Sport Glide
1989 FXRP Pursuit Glide:  Police Version Of FXRT

the FXR launched the beginning of the FXRS-Conv. Low Rider Convertible and came with a Lexan windshield and leather & nylon leather saddlebags. Both of these features were quick detach.


In 1990,
1990 FXR Super Glide
1990 FXRS Low Rider
1990 FXRS-SP Low Rider Sport Edition
1990 FXRS-Conv. Low Rider Convertible
1990 FXLR Low Rider Custom
1990 FXRT Sport Glide
1990 FXRP Pursuit Glide:  Police Version OF FXRT

   
OK NOW FOR SOME CHANGES...
a new carburetor, new diaphram clutch, normal changes in electrics, and had some changes with the base gaskets...that were causing problems for that time period.
no model changes however.


In 1991,
1991 FXR Super Glide
1991 FXRS Low Rider
1991 FXRS-SP Low Rider Sport Edition
1991 FXRS-Conv. Low Rider Convertible
1991 FXLR Low Rider Custom
1991 FXRT Sport Glide
1991 FXRP Pursuit Glide:  Police Version OF FXRT


the emergence of the FXDB which became known as the "Sturgis" and of course went on to become the Dyna Glides....
Along the way the FXR line, the original new version of the Superglides, were all named Low Riders....known as the plain, the sport, the touring, and the convertible...one of the new features for this year were the emergence of self canceling turn signals and of course new paint options.
(THIS IS ALSO WHERE THE BEGINNING OF THE "DYNA CHASSIS" began, with the emergence of the FXDB on an entirely different platform.)


In 1992,
1992 FXR Super Glide
1992 FXRS Low Rider
1992 FXRS-SP Low Rider Sport Edition
1992 FXRS-Conv. Low Rider Convertible
1992 FXLR Low Rider Custom
1992 FXRT Sport Glide
1992 FXRP Pursuit Glide:  Police Version OF FXRT


The FXR's received recalibrated carburetors, with the rules of EPA changing and getting tighter, thus new carburetors were required along with new oil lines and a new cover for the pump. There were better materials for the brake discs.
The factory was fitting a
retainer to "ensure that the drive sprocket nut stays tight for the life of the vehichle" <~~~~IF THAT Doesn't make you stroll out to your garage and check the NUT on your pre-1992, NOTHING WILL....YIKES!!!

In 1993,
1993 FXR Super Glide
1993 FXRS-SP Low Rider Sport Edition
1993 FXRS-CONV Low Rider Convertible
1993 FXLR Low Rider Custom
1993 FXRP Pursuit Glide:  Police Version OF FXRT


The 1993 FXRS-CONV Low Rider Convertible in effect replaced the FXRT which was dropped at the beginning of the year.
FXRS-SP, the Low Rider Sport Edition with low bars, raised suspension, and dual front brakes.
FXLR the Low Rider Custom, with the solid rear wheel, a 21" inch front, and a one-piece combo of dog-bone risers and flat bars on which rode the speedo. Which allows for modifying the tank to a COOL looking long tank...if you have ever seen those...they are cool looking.
These models also got revised breather system for the gear case to air box, reprofiled levers, and sight glasses for the brake master cylinders.
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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #16 on: July 23, 2008, 01:04:19 PM »

In 1994,
The FXR model line was comprised of two models and the specialty of the FXRP:

1994 FXLR Low Rider Custom came out with the 21” laced front wheel (shown in the photo)
1994 FXR  Super Glide (Silver Engine)
1994 FXRP Pursuit Glide:  Police Version OF FXRT


......and thus 1994 marked the end of the FXR era chassis/frame. How ironic that the FXR era began with two models and ended it's run here in 1994 with two models.....


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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #17 on: July 23, 2008, 01:09:10 PM »

In 1995,
THERE were NO MORE FXR's the line was stopped.....

I would say that as you read the above information that there is enough reason to say now that even in trying to keep up with the maze of changes in names or modifications of the FXR model throughout the birth and generation of the FXR from 1982 - 1994 one would perhaps like to know that without excluding the value of any Harley-Davidson model or year...that the birth and reemergence of the FXR as an FXR2, FXR3, and FXR4 during the calendar years of 1999 and 2000 has more validity than to simply be described as opportunity by the MOTOR COMPANY to recapture more dollars based upon only "bling". What you are offered is perhaps the best that the motor company could offer one with this particular FXR framed bike....<~~~Is this opinion....perhaps only you can decide.

To me it will always stand that HD's effort was to provide a FINAL clear cut opportunity to truly own an FXR framed bike featuring at the time of 1999-2000 the latest "technology" (and I use that term with tongue in cheek) or perhaps the latest advancements on a particularly wonderfully spectacular framed bike.

There is always going to be something faster, something different....but the future will show that the historical reasoning for leaving something behind because perhaps this particular frame while initially perhaps rejected by the market as being too import oriented will wonderfully prove to be one of the finest frames to ride that H-D has ever produced.

To all of you that own an FXR from 1981-1994....(perhaps originally) I salute you.....and I am not attempting to discredit anyone's ride.....all I am attempting to say is that there "perhaps" is enough validity to support the "value" indeed of the latest version of an FXR as seen in the FXR2, FXR3, and FXR4 models and that such a purchase would also "perhaps" be more than just about paying for over priced "bling"......

While in part it's worth mentioning again, that in some form of logic the reason the FXR2, FXR3, and FXR4 were brought back to the market place, besides the desire of H-D to start a "CVO Program" was H-D's observance during this 5 year absence of the FXR, that the frame/chassis was being continually modified and being used to become a "custom ride" by many in the after market.  Thus as was stated previously, while H-D perhaps saw an opportunity to capture this market that obviously was being missed by making their own version of a "custom" look at a more affordable price than could be reproduced in the after market and seeing that this project was successful, perhaps it indeed points to the fact that the FXR team of engineers were correct, that the "market" did require something of value as perceived in the handling, comfort and overall positive riding experience provided within the FXR chassis. Perhaps, indeed that the initial thoughts that the "market" was rejecting the chassis/frame because of an "import" look was simply a more limited view instead of a widely held purchasing view, of course in the end, the FXR frame also has become widely accepted that to produce the frame required too many "hands" to create it verses the more easily created frame of an FXD model when using robotics to make production easier and yes, perhaps even cheaper.  But just maybe as Harley Davidson has learned throughout their course of history, that the HD consumer is slow to accept anything new and even slower to accept changes.....maybe just maybe as one looks back, perhaps history will prove over time that the FXR chassis was indeed Harley Davidson's best.

Some may ask is the frame of a Dyna different from that of an FXR, the answer is, yes.  In 1991, Harley Davidson started the emergence of the "Dyna Chassis". So there is a difference in the Dyna Chassis and the FXR chassis......as the FXR's were phased out, the "DYNA" family grew which actually started in 1991 with the FXDB, which was considered the "second" Sturgis, a limited edition model. When the factory introduced the FXD frame they called it the "internal frame" because what H-D's marketing determined was that people didn't like seeing those "triangular" rear tubes found on the FXR frame.  Imported motorcycles had frame tubes extending from the seat back to the shocks or fenders, THUS "rear frame" tubes didn't look like HARLEY, and because of that people surveyed said they wouldn't buy an FXR, which is one small reason why the FXR frame was given a quiet goodbye.  The FXDL began it's production in 1993.
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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #18 on: July 23, 2008, 01:10:14 PM »

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In 1986,

FXR, now named Super Glide
FXRS called the Low Rider with options
FXRS Sport Edition, with taller suspension and dual front disc brakes
FXRT plain touring model
FXRD, the "D" stood for Deluxe, with a sound system, top box (fairing) and dual exhausts...another attempt at the "baby" FLH market.
LIBERTY EDITION, also this was one more model, which was a limited edition, celebrating the statue.


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Not to dispute your information but I bought a brand new 1986 FXRC (red of course) off the showroom floor of Carolina Harley Davidson of Gastonia, NC. I wrote a check for $7,800.00 and rode it home. I have the bill of sale in the safe at home. I put a S&S 3 5/8 X 4 3/4 kit in it to become 98". It kicked ass, I only wish compression releases were available back then. With that stroke it was a bear to crank!

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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2008, 01:14:06 PM »

Well Obviously it appears that HD made/had 1250 of the 1986 FXRC Custom's available
Based upon my research, obviously you are sitting there with your bike however...and I would assume you have no motivation to verify it via your vin # with HD about which model and year you have....(lol, I am just sayin)
However, in 1985 there were two FXR LIMITED EDITIONS one was official the other was unoffical both to gain extra sales and to help perfect the production line process for supplying more chrome.  The "OFFICIAL" one was the FXRC Low Glide Custom , which in some locales was unoffically dubbed the " Candy Glide " in honor of the color scheme of the paint which was Candy Orange and Root Beer , paint that made the whole motorcyle seem to glow in full sunlight like a "radioactive pumpkin".  The 1985 "Candy Glide" FXRC Low Glide Custom , wasn't for everyone, and in some parts of the country they were a tough sell.  Why?  The price was higher, for one, the biggest reason, though was that bright bold color that was too "pretty" to be seen on.  The new black T-shirt crowd just wasn't fully ready for the Candy Orange and Root Beer bikes with orange-brown seats.  Only 1,084 were built in 1985.  The "UNOFFICAL" FXRS special was a version offered with the chrome covers of the FXRC, but without the candy paint.  299 in 1985 were built.

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UPDATE:
There appears to be some further evidence that indeed HD carried the FXRC Low Glide Custom into 1986,  Hardluk1 sent me a note and has informed me that he owns one, #933 of 1250 on the speedo/tac cluster, black with some gold finishes on the lower tree and console also rear rail covers. All stickon 's. He Was told by a person that the custom stuff was left over from 85 and to be a fugal company, HD kept it up in 86 till the stuff was gone . It is back'd up in the vin#.  

This obviously supports what Silver-Black was trying to clarify above.  I am curious now if HD did not "officially" place the FXRC Low Glide Custom as an "official" model for 1986 via their literature but simply provided models to Dealers until such supply had evaporated.  Also I am curious since 1,084 units were built/sold in 1985 did HD have another "1250" that went into the market place for 1986 and beyond until the supply was no longer or did HD in fact have another "1250" Units built for the market place in 1986 which were still remaining and left over from 1985?  

I appreciate these two members offering some clarification about these models....any further information is greatly appreciated....the goal is to provide accurate information....and part of that discovery is these types of helpful offerings.  

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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2008, 01:15:45 PM »

1980 FLT TOUR GUIDE BELOW:

alright I know this is a 1980 FLT Tour Guide....because of where I copied and pasted it, I copied and pasted the one before from a site that said that it was, but wasn't...

ie:  http://www.hotrodsbikeworks.com/features/0705_hrbp_harley_davidson_evolution/photo_15.html

So why am I showing a photo of a 1980 FLT Tour Guide, because it's this motorcycle that the engineers used to create the FXR Super Glide II from.  Simple as that....



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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2008, 01:16:43 PM »

1990 FXR Frame Below:


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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2008, 01:17:46 PM »

1991 FXR Frame Below:



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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2008, 01:18:54 PM »

2003 FLHR Frame Below Side A:




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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2008, 01:19:58 PM »

2003 FLHR Frame Below Side B:




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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2008, 01:21:30 PM »

1980 FLT TOUR GUIDE BELOW:

No offense but


Now your talking about Tour Glides in a FXR thread.

How do we tell when your done?

And that is not a Tour Guide or a Tour Glide you have pictured! ( hint hint, look at front fender)

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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2008, 01:22:09 PM »

With the above photos of both an FXR as well as a 2003 Touring Bike ie: 2003 FLHR frames, you can see just how these frames are so similar.....I just thought it would be interesting to "see" how "similar" they really are!!!! 

Unfortunately I don't have a photo of a 1980 FLT Touring Guide chassis, I looked but haven't found one.....if someone ever sees one or has a good photo of one send it to me via e~mail and I will put it in this slot.....
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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2008, 02:01:14 PM »

1993 FXRS-CONV Photo Below:

Showing Convertible Saddle Bag Part Numbers:
90703-89 right saddle bag
90702-89 left saddlebag
90706-89 left "raincoat" <~~~is what HD calls them in parts book
90708-89 right "raincoat" <~~~is what HD calls them in parts book


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alrighty finished......thanks for everyone's patience.....let's see how this all unfolds....please post

It would be great if folks have photos of FXR's in general.....great for people to see a visual reference, also note what year the bike is and model....it always helps!!!

Thank you!!!!

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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2008, 02:35:15 PM »

It would be great if folks have photos of FXR's in general.....great for people to see a visual reference, also note what year the bike is and model...

Not sure if this has been here before:

http://www.hdfxr.dk/Public/FXR/FXRModels.aspx


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Re: HISTORY OF THE FXR
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2008, 02:51:16 PM »

1985 FXRT

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