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05 103 vs. 08 110
« on: August 03, 2008, 06:16:53 PM »

Guys i need some info on 2005 103 flhtcse2 I'm looking to buy one. How does the 103 compair to my 08 110? What's the problems of the 103? ( the 110 heads gasket ) Also i have never rode a 5sp i know it's geared lower. Does anyone know the gear specifications of the 5sp.

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2008, 06:32:01 PM »

Cam chain tensioners will be a concern (some have had problems w/them wearing out some haven't). I switched out to gear drive and have been enjoying mine.

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2008, 06:49:47 PM »

Thanks! I'm sure i would change the cams the 103 don't have the crank run-out like 110?
I would like to have the 05 because of color and also is not drive by wire.
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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2008, 07:10:26 PM »

ScreaminSpringer,

Only issues I have had with the 103 is leaks at the pawl / transmission.  Great reason to put chrome primaries on at warranties expense.   The only other concern dude mentioned and that is the cam tensioners.   You can get by that by doing the 07 conversion which will get you a higher flow oil pump and the new tensioners and a quiet running motor or going to a gear drive setup.   The 575 cam combo in the 03,04,05 and 06's has been fantastic.   Just a little noisy.

I only had a couple of chrome issues with the 05's.   The 110 has been a pain in the arse.   5 times I have had  the dreaded head leak / base gasket leak and then I had lifters fail as well and destroy my cam chest during bike week last year.   If I were doing it all over again .. wait I went back and bought another 05 Cherry.   As ole Hubbard would say for me There endeth the Lesson.

Currently I am not a fan of the 110, nor am I am fan of the fly by wire control.   If it were me I would look towards to the 05.   The only reason I would consider an 09 is the because of the Road Glide, but I doubt I would keep the 110 engine in the bike for very long.
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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2008, 07:24:30 PM »

Thanks! For the info i really like this 05 just wanted to know what needed to be fixed ($$$) before i jumped in it like my 08 110.

Also what's a fair price on a bike like this? It's perfect
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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2008, 07:33:27 PM »

I have seen these go for 21500 to 25999.   What you have to decide is what it is worth to you, what is it missing if anything, how good of shape the paint is in and such.   I would expect you to pay 23 to 26k if it has everything and the paint is in good shape.   26 on the high side and 22 - 23 on the low side.

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2008, 07:56:32 PM »

The 103 is a great motor. Like you were told the cam tennsioners are the only real concern. You will need to check crank run out if you go gear drive. Yes the 103's did have the run out problem also. The hardest thing you can do to that motor is reving the engine and dropping the clutch. THAT WILL HURT THE CRANK in these motors.

Hope this helps. Good luck in your purchase.

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2008, 08:14:40 PM »

Instead of buying a new 09 I decided in March to buy and 04 Pumpkin. Even though I lusted for the Road Glide to be built. I feel I made the right decission. The 103 is a much smoother running bike than the 110. The wife 110 idles really rough and all the trouble with the head gaskets. I feel it was not worth chancing the new 110. I feel the MOCO only hopes they have fixed some of the issues. I think you cannot go wrong with an 05 103 NANA.

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2008, 08:16:24 PM »

The 103 is a great motor. Like you were told the cam tennsioners are the only real concern. You will need to check crank run out if you go gear drive. Yes the 103's did have the run out problem also. The hardest thing you can do to that motor is reving the engine and dropping the clutch. THAT WILL HURT THE CRANK in these motors.

Hope this helps. Good luck in your purchase.

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2008, 08:39:22 PM »

I don't do that - but why?
My thought on this would be that it has something to do w/not having timken bearings on the crank. Revving motor up and dropping the clutch is a sure way of putting stress on the crank and eventually developing crank runout. :nixweiss:

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2008, 09:49:19 PM »

My thought on this would be that it has something to do w/not having timken bearings on the crank. Revving motor up and dropping the clutch is a sure way of putting stress on the crank and eventually developing crank runout. :nixweiss:

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2008, 03:23:12 AM »

The crank is a pressed assembly not a bolted assembly. It cannot take the pressure or the stress. The MOCO did this to save time during assembly. They also did away with the timken to save time during assembly.

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2008, 03:39:02 AM »

The only thing I would recommend is doing a compression test before purchase...

I didn't when I bought mine, if I had I would have found out that my cylinders were warped!

Other than that the bike has been great!!!
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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2008, 06:26:26 AM »

The crank is a pressed assembly not a bolted assembly. It cannot take the pressure or the stress. The MOCO did this to save time during assembly. They also did away with the timken to save time during assembly.

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Limited life span due to this? 

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Re: 05 103 vs. 08 110
« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2008, 07:17:49 PM »

Limited life span due to this? 

Sorry to bug ya, just like knowing my issues before that become them.

You are not bugging me at all. We are here to help. One other thing you may to keep an eye on. If you pump the motor up, please do your motor a favor and do the timken conversion.

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