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[HUBBARD]

Huey, Duey and Louie's last name wasn't Duck?  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

Just kind of assumed with their uncle being Donald and all that they probably shared a fam..... ah, never mind.  RSA is probably talking about a different celebrity [smiley=beerchug.gif]

Yeah, 'er 'uh, Twolane,
 I thought Huey and Duey's last "Duck" was named "Puddles!" [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]  If you fail to find the humor, JCZ will advise! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]  Later--HUBBARD

[HUBBARD]

Tater, Tater

I might as well say it

Your statement quoted below

".  As far as the Credit issue goes, I hope you are right, and I am wrong.  That statement was based on my experience.  There endeth the lesson.  Later--HUBBARD
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Based on your experience of what?

1)   You have had personal dealings with Freedom?  If yes then maybe those are really Freedom Pipes with Rinehart tips on your bike. Your just didn't want anyone to know the real reason it's so fast! [smiley=laugh.gif] If no then why would you flame a company you have no dealings with. Or even better, would you want to read a post similar about your company from someone that knows as much about your company as you know about Freedom's.

Or is it
2)   In your world (the truck and coal world) the experience you speak of is something you deal with as a part of doing business in that market segment.

Either way
I'm betting it's #3

3) You are bored and rather than going out and making someone mad cause your led sled just dusted them you choose to come in here and toss out a long line of B/S knowing that people will get upset because we all know you have no relationship with Freedom. You are a smart businessman, but unless you do actually have a relationship with Freedom and know something about them, then you have made an assumption. And you know what they say about assumptions.

I should have called you so we could have gone riding today.
It was a good day, rode 400 miles.
Went to Shatly Springs and then rode over to Stations Inn.
Ran into a UFO on a red SEEG and got dusted  on the way back.
All in all a good day.
You should have skipped the B/S and rode with me today!
Elvis was right!


 [smiley=beerchug.gif]    

Yeah, 'er 'uh, hd2003,
  And then, I would have dusted you, and the UFO, on that other Red SEEG! [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]  I'd bet he had RINEHART exhaust, didn't he? [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]  I said, I hoped I was wrong.  hd-dude, has confirmed I WAS wrong.  OK, I stand corrected, and You are right, in that my experience is based solely, on my particular situation.  And the RINEHART end-caps?  I ain't even gonna' go there!  You like your Pipes, and I like mine.  Competiton makes the World go 'round, right?  Glad you enjoyed Shatley Springs, and visited The Stations Inn.  Sorry I missed it.  Ride Hard!  Later--HUBBARD    

[Twolanerider]

Yeah, 'er 'uh, Twolane,
  I thought Huey and Duey's last "Duck" was named "Puddles!" [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]  If you fail to find the humor, JCZ will advise! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]  Later--HUBBARD

Puddles?  Oh my...  No explanation from any third party needed there Hub.  I'd never look to find humor in someone's bladder control issues [smiley=shocked2.gif] .

[hd2003-se2005]

Tater

Thanks bud! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Good response.


It was a funny thing. I was parked at Stations Inn and saw this red SEEG pull in. The guy went in and got a drink. When he came out he walked over to my bike and said,
"You must be on the web site, I see you have Freedom pipes. I have the Freedom package on mine also"

That was UFO. He and a bud were out riding.
You meet the nicest people on a S/Eagle.
And sometimes on an Ultra. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

.

[spydglide]

what the heck is going on w/ Chip and Tater?  you guys smoke a peace pipe last night or something?   Har!    [smiley=nervous.gif]  spyder

[hd2003-se2005]

Spyder

I don't smoke!

HAR!
  Chip

[JCZ]

Yeah, 'er 'uh, Twolane,
  I thought Huey and Duey's last "Duck" was named "Puddles!" [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]  If you fail to find the humor, JCZ will advise! [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]  Later--HUBBARD

Be nice dammit!  I know it's hard, but try. [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

[05Rider]

[bgcolor=Blue]quote author[/bgcolor]=HUBBARD
date=07/09/05 at 01:15:51]
Yeah, 'er 'uh, 05Rider,
 WAH! WAH!  WAH!  This has me thinking the management at Freedom pipes, is guilty of counting their chickens before they hatch!  Being absent the financial wherewithal to be horizontally integrated, FREEDOM must depend on an outside source, to manufacture their inferior imitation, of the RINEHART True Duals.    [/color]  
    Hubbard, I am purchasing Freedom Pipes for my SEEG2 because I want the BEST PIPE setup for my bike.  If I wanted to settle for an average modiocre pipe setup, I would go with the Rineharts.  But, I want the best and so I am going to wait for the Freedom Pipe setup.  Everybody has the right to pick and choose what they want or what they think is the best.  So I hope you enjoy your Rineharts half as much as I will enjoy the power and sound and performance that the Freedom Pipes will give me.  
Ride Safe   [smiley=helmet.gif]

[Elvis]

[bgcolor=Blue]quote author[/bgcolor]=HUBBARD
date=07/09/05 at 01:15:51]
Yeah, 'er 'uh, 05Rider,
  WAH! WAH!  WAH!  This has me thinking the management at Freedom pipes, is guilty of counting their chickens before they hatch!  Being absent the financial wherewithal to be horizontally integrated, FREEDOM must depend on an outside source, to manufacture their inferior imitation, of the RINEHART True Duals.    [/color]  
     Hubbard, I am purchasing Freedom Pipes for my SEEG2 because I want the BEST PIPE setup for my bike.  If I wanted to settle for an average modiocre pipe setup, I would go with the Rineharts.   

Now just stop.  You don't have the time around here to go insulting our friends yet.  

That's our job. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Get what ya want and let this thread die.


signed, a happy Rinehart owner,

elvis

[spydglide]

Yeah Elvis, I think Hub said it best when he said:  "you like your pipes, and I like mine"........I'll second that!   Har!    [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]  spyder (another happy Rienhart owner)   [smiley=laugh.gif]

[JCZ]

And I hate mine........Vance & Hines Pro Pipe.  Soon as there's extra play money I'm going over to the D&D Fat Cats. [smiley=laugh.gif]

[Twolanerider]

How many others have noticed that, perhaps more than anything else on the bikes, exhaust is a lot like religion.  You've got faith in the ones you like.  You may not always absolutely know why.  But damn those pipe infidels who don't like the same ones that you do  [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif]

[Elvis]

And I hate mine........Vance & Hines Pro Pipe.  Soon as there's extra play money I'm going over to the D&D Fat Cats. [smiley=laugh.gif]

That sounds like the ticket.  Had the V & H ProPipe on 95" Fatboy I tricked out a bit....Branch heads, Mikuni, etc...she ran great but I couldn't get used to the sound of that pipe...sounded more like a small block Chevy than a Harley...took if off and went with Hookers.  BTW, I hear good things about D & D...those Texas boys know how to do things 'rat'.  Bet you like 'em.  IMO, pipes are a blonde vs brunette question....get what ya like....it's all good.

elvis

[HDJamsTX]

Well first i want to say hello to everyone, and say that i think this is a great site and sounds like a awesome group of people.

I have a 05 FLHTCSE2 and like everyone else i want to do just a couple changes to it. Starting with the exhaust......

I am quickly seeing that this might be one of the single hardest decisions to make.  With all the reading i have done, everytime i think OK...I'm going with the Rineharts. BOOM someone come back with comment the header broke, or the weld cracked or springs breaking.

Then its the Freedom Sytem, Good customer service, but also breakage, cracks etc...

SO......I'm still up in the air as to which system to go for  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

AND.... can someone clarify what the difference is in the Air cleaner.  I thought the SEEG came with the Screaming Eagle air cleaner???  

Thanks......and looking forward to chatting with you all.....  Hammer

[BLM777]

Hammer.....Yup, you would think that a "Screamin' Eagle" bike would come with an SE air filter and a proper download for the ECM, but it sure doesn't.  I think you'll find that most everyone starts with a change of exhaust and the Stage 1 conversion and then adds a Race Tuner or PC III with a dyno tune to get it running properly.  From there, it's just a matter of trying to avoid opening the the ol' check book to really get it running!  As far as the Rineharts' are concerned, I may be able to put your mind to rest.  Including my '04 SEEG and a hotrod VRod that I'm currently building, I've used 13 sets of Rineharts over the years.  I'VE NEVER HAD A FAILURE.  I'm sure, as with any product that there are manufacturing failures, but my personal opinion is that many of the stress related problems come from shops that really don't know how to install a set of true duals.  Gerald Rinehart and Company are among the very best people I have ever dealt with.  For me, there's no other choice in an aftermarket exhaust.  Must be the Rinehart sound addiction.

By the way, welcome to the site.  I think you'll find some of the best people you have ever spent any time with right here.  It just gets better when you meet them in person at one of the get togethers.