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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2009, 09:54:25 PM »

Steve, thanks for all the info.  What's the turn around time for the un-corking of the head pipe.  Thanks, Gabe

Turn around time? About 2 days.
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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2009, 10:05:22 PM »

thanks for your work and you really help us out here , :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:

thanks steve

Thank you, its all fun for me. I love finding hidden HP trapped in the stock parts.

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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2009, 11:39:32 PM »

Steve
What do you do after rewelding it too keep it from getting ugly and rusted?  I know the chrome gets blue/gold ugly but it doesn't get rust.
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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2009, 11:38:48 AM »

The first dyno test of removing the cat that I did was on a 09-96" that showed all but zero hp gain. At 75 hp the cat isn't holding any power back. On the CVO 110, whole different story. At 95hp, the cat and stock muffler are killing off about 10hp. Not to mention building heat and hurting fuel economy.

Steve

Hmmmm... Sounds like a Market for High-Flow Cats...down the road, you know before it's over it will come to that...Greg
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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2009, 11:48:48 AM »

The first dyno test of removing the cat that I did was on a 09-96" that showed all but zero hp gain. At 75 hp the cat isn't holding any power back. On the CVO 110, whole different story. At 95hp, the cat and stock muffler are killing off about 10hp. Not to mention building heat and hurting fuel economy.

Steve

Thanks!  Appriciate the info!
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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2009, 12:04:45 PM »

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What do you do after rewelding it too keep it from getting ugly and rusted?  I know the chrome gets blue/gold ugly but it doesn't get rust.
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The heat shield covers the weld. If a person wanted they could spray it with hi temp. in The az climate that stuff doesn't rust.

Steve
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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2009, 12:28:26 PM »

The heat shield covers the weld. If a person wanted they could spray it with hi temp. in The az climate that stuff doesn't rust.

Steve

Get them raw and have them ceramic coated! :2vrolijk_21:

Hey Steve do you have your own dyno?

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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2009, 04:49:55 PM »

Get them raw and have them ceramic coated! :2vrolijk_21:

Hey Steve do you have your own dyno?

Craig

No, I pay an old def bald guy to do my testing and put my companies name on the charts. lol........
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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #23 on: January 22, 2009, 06:36:19 PM »

Get them raw and have them ceramic coated! :2vrolijk_21:

Have you ever had pipes ceramic coated?  Whats the price of ceramic coating a head pipe?
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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2009, 06:41:52 PM »

Get them raw and have them ceramic coated! :2vrolijk_21:

Have you ever had pipes ceramic coated?  Whats the price of ceramic coating a head pipe?
Thanks

Not much, I haven't had it done yet, but I looked at prices, and that just said motorcycle exhaust, so it might be less.I think around $150. I'll look for the info I had.

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Here's a coupe of sites, one has prices.

http://www.moorepower.com/price_quote/

http://www.jet-hot.com/motorcycles.html
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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2009, 06:51:09 PM »

No, I pay an old def bald guy to do my testing and put my companies name on the charts. lol........
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 :jack:

Well here's some crap, just wanted to talk to someone before I go up with my friend and talk to these guys. He added pipes and an AC, took it down to a local shop and had it dyno'd. I haven't seen the chart yet, but they say they got him 9 hp over the canned map he was running. I asked him to tell me the the correction factor on the bottom of the pages, the original one was 1.19, the finished one was 1.20, not a big change and I don't know how much that would change things, but they should have been the same. You have any idea how much that would have changed the results?

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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2009, 01:09:00 AM »

Steve,

How much difference would there be between having the stock pipe cored out and going with a 2 into 1 instead...assuming 2.25" Fullsac mufflers with the cored out stock pipes?
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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2009, 07:14:40 AM »

Thanks for the indepedent testing, excellent results!!  Curious on the sound of the finished product, how would you rate??
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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2009, 09:13:52 AM »

:jack:

Well here's some crap, just wanted to talk to someone before I go up with my friend and talk to these guys. He added pipes and an AC, took it down to a local shop and had it dyno'd. I haven't seen the chart yet, but they say they got him 9 hp over the canned map he was running. I asked him to tell me the the correction factor on the bottom of the pages, the original one was 1.19, the finished one was 1.20, not a big change and I don't know how much that would change things, but they should have been the same. You have any idea how much that would have changed the results?

Craig
The correction factor is determined by the weather station built in to the dyno. 1.20 sounds about right for high elevations common in Colorado. It means 20% was added to the actual power output to correct it back to see level. .95 would mean the dyno software removed 5 hp from a 100 hp run. My dyno sits at 1100' elevation. The runs I did last week were seeing a correction of 1.02-1.03. Its not something a dyno operator has control over or should attempt to manipulate. The most acurate testing is always done back to back in very simular conditions so the correction factor is very close. 1.19 and 1.20 are very close. The most important thing on any dyno chart is the torque line. Its the only thing related to actual riding. Comparing runs that were done weeks or months apart is ballpark at best regardless of the correction factor. 

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Re: Fullsac Dyno Test! Stock 09 110 with Headpipe and 2.0 Baffles.
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2009, 09:29:01 AM »

Steve,

How much difference would there be between having the stock pipe cored out and going with a 2 into 1 instead...assuming 2.25" Fullsac mufflers with the cored out stock pipes?

You had to ask. My leg roasting not available yet 2 into 1 made a nice jump in bottom end torque over everything else tested. Heat shields are the current obstacle. Not something the RG guys will ever want with the bag cutouts. I'm going to come back to it after I get this new headpipe conquered and on the shelf. Currently I have one bolted on my 96" 09. Its cool enough in the winter time that the girls don't complain about their leg catching on fire.

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