Topic: JCZ Candy Concord............. (Read 15101 times)

JCZ · « **on:** August 15, 2009, 01:36:14 AM »

Not sure where they got the name Concord for this blue bike. The others are named after alcoholic drinks (spiced rum, Tequilla..... ,etc.) I guess Concord (after the wine grapes) is the closest they could come for the blue bike. Color wise, it's very close to the "cobalt" if not exactly the same.......a beautiful bike!

I got this bike at $1000 below MSRP and $500 credit back on the dealer prep. At Redding Harley Davidson, here in Nor Cal. Jon (Jonga) is getting exactly the same deal on his 2010 SEUC in Burnt Amber and Citrus (it'll be in about five weeks).

They have several other CVOS that they're dealing on, too. He said that a couple of the 09s will get a better deal than I got (the 09 SE Dyna model with the weird dual headlights is one of them). They have a blue and silver 09 SEUC and a yellow 09 SE Springer that'll get the same deal that I got. First I heard of a CVO below MSRP and then a credit back of $500 on the $850 that's charged for the dealer prep.

JCZ · « **Reply #1 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:37:22 AM »

Checking the oil...........just to make sure.

JCZ · « **Reply #2 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:41:42 AM »

They held the dealership open after hours for us to get up there from Sacramento. It was a very plesant experience........probably the best buying experience I've had with any dealership.

JCZ · « **Reply #3 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:42:48 AM »

Just one more angle showing the color as the sun sets........

JCZ · « **Reply #4 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:44:08 AM »

JCZ · « **Reply #5 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:46:31 AM »

This bike has pretty impressive performance in it's stock configuration. Looking forward to waking it up with A/C, tuner and exhaust.

JCZ · « **Reply #6 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:47:56 AM »

A different colored motor from the SEEG that I've been riding for the past five years.......

JCZ · « **Reply #7 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:49:25 AM »

A happy new owner.........

JCZ · « **Reply #8 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:51:05 AM »

Like the 09 SERG, this bike is awsome looking from the back.....

JCZ · « **Reply #9 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:52:01 AM »

JCZ · « **Reply #10 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:53:42 AM »

150 miles and I'll be home. 9 miles on the clock at this point....

JCZ · « **Reply #11 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:55:49 AM »

On the road....headed south on I-5

JCZ · « **Reply #12 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:57:34 AM »

Our little dog Molly watchin as I ride by........

JCZ · « **Reply #13 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:59:46 AM »

Out of Red Bluff I turned of on Hwy. 99 South so that I could just take my time and very the speed. Four hours later I pulled into the garage.

The Bolvine Gigolo! · « **Reply #14 on:** August 15, 2009, 03:40:56 AM »

Well congrads JC can't wait to see it in person!

Cvostu · « **Reply #15 on:** August 15, 2009, 03:58:39 AM »

good for you bud... enjoy it. Looks great.

DICKW · « **Reply #16 on:** August 15, 2009, 06:29:10 AM »

I would say you got a GREAT deal with those bikes just coming into the market.

Good luck with it.

JCZ · « **Reply #17 on:** August 15, 2009, 07:13:50 AM »

I must be gettin old.

I never thought I'd be saying this but it was a nice ride last night with a quiet bike. If I could get the performance and keep it that quiet..........I sure would.

Never had a motorcycle that I could hear the stereo (and clearly) at 100 mph.

I also found it interesting that the break in is up to 4000 rpm for the first 50 miles and 5000 rpm for the first 500 miles. With the six speed you can actually move along pretty good with that rpm range, for the break in period.

The hard part is to not maintain speed and having to slow back down for periods of time, just to vary the speed. I just want to go......go.......go!

JCZ · « **Reply #18 on:** August 15, 2009, 07:34:29 AM »

Quote from: JCZ on August 15, 2009, 01:36:14 AM

Not sure where they got the name Concord for this blue bike. The others are named after alcoholic drinks (spiced rum, Tequilla..... ,etc.) I guess Concord (after the wine grapes) is the closest they could come for the blue bike. Color wise, it's very close to the "cobalt" if not exactly the same.......a beautiful bike!

I got this bike at $1000 below MSRP and $500 credit back on the dealer prep. At Redding Harley Davidson, here in Nor Cal. Jon (Jonga) is getting exactly the same deal on his 2010 SEUC in Burnt Amber and Citrus (it'll be in about five weeks).

They have several other CVOS that they're dealing on, too. He said that a couple of the 09s will get a better deal than I got (the 09 SE Dyna model with the weird dual headlights is one of them). They have a blue and silver 09 SEUC and a yellow 09 SE Springer that'll get the same deal that I got. First I heard of a CVO below MSRP and then a credit back of $500 on the $850 that's charged for the dealer prep.

For those shopping for a 2010 in Calif. here are the numbers:

Calif. MSRP (Calif. emissions) on the SESG is $31,199 but they deducted $1000 off of that from the start......$30,199
Dealer Prep was $844 however, with the $500 credit back, it was........................................................... 344
Freight... 380
Lic... 460
Doc Fee... 55
Tax... 2,754.33
7 year extended warranty with the Tire and wheel coverage at 15% discount............................................ 1,580

Out the door total... $35,709.33

If you're looking for a bike in Cali. you might want to call Redding HD and ask for Nathan.

MOBlue · « **Reply #19 on:** August 15, 2009, 08:39:34 AM »

Congrats on the new bike!

Like you, I've been riding a 2004 SEEG and was very pleased with the changes over the past few years. I too enjoyed the quiet ride, but have to get it running better. Have you given any thought to the pipes or tuner you will use?

Enjoy,
Dave

Hoist! · « **Reply #20 on:** August 15, 2009, 08:43:49 AM »

Wow! Congrats JC! Very cool! Now I won't have to rent the next time I come out there!!!

Best of luck with it and enjoy JC! And do tell! What's Jim doing to it first?

Hoist!

Buy early · « **Reply #21 on:** August 15, 2009, 08:55:26 AM »

Congrats on the new scoot JC! Beautiful bike and a happy buying experience to boot. Doesn't get better than that. Enjoy the ride! Looking forward to watching how you personalize it.

Fired00d · « **Reply #22 on:** August 15, 2009, 08:59:41 AM »

JC,
Congrats on getting your SESG!!!! Enjoy!!!!

Ride Safe,
Fired00d

erniezap · « **Reply #23 on:** August 15, 2009, 09:04:49 AM »

Congrats JC! Did you trade in the 04?

SBB · « **Reply #24 on:** August 15, 2009, 09:31:14 AM »

Congrats JC!

I hope this new bike will give you as many smiles as the 04 did.

I knew once you rode Terrie's 09 with that new frame you would be hooked.

That Concord Blue is my favorite color of the 10 SESG's.

Now, there is no excuse to head out this way.

SBB

Lucky88 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 15, 2009, 09:32:51 AM »

Thanks for the pics. One sweet machine!

RidinRuby · « **Reply #26 on:** August 15, 2009, 09:34:48 AM »

JC

That is one way cool machine

, especially for a po boy.

mr_magoo · « **Reply #27 on:** August 15, 2009, 09:36:36 AM »

Congraduation JCZ on the new bike.

JCZ · « **Reply #28 on:** August 15, 2009, 09:47:26 AM »

Quote from: Hoist! on August 15, 2009, 08:43:49 AM

Wow! Congrats JC! Very cool! Now I won't have to rent the next time I come out there!!!

Best of luck with it and enjoy JC! And do tell! What's Jim doing to it first?

Hoist!

Forgot to mention..............I have an 04 SEEG (blue and black, of course!) for sale. Jim has it right now....going to try to sell it for me......give him a call. You can buy it and keep it out here for your west coast bike.

What's he going to do first you ask? Well, today we're going to get the extended shifter rods put on it so I can move my feet around just a tad bit. Oh yea, and the 8" dark tint Windvest shield.....so I can get rid of the buffeting.

I've got plans.....just don't have the $. Somebody hurry up and buy that SEEG, I need the money.

hd-dude · « **Reply #29 on:** August 15, 2009, 10:28:55 AM »

Congrats JC! I am looking forward to seeing it in a few hours

04se103 · « **Reply #30 on:** August 15, 2009, 10:43:07 AM »

Congrats JC on the new SESG sharp scooter

VANAMAL · « **Reply #31 on:** August 15, 2009, 10:55:03 AM »

Way to go JC! BEAUTIFUL CVO!!!

Rooster · « **Reply #32 on:** August 15, 2009, 11:05:05 AM »

Congrats JC, Love the Blue. Have fun with the new goodies you will put on.

9 1/2 Beers · « **Reply #33 on:** August 15, 2009, 01:07:27 PM »

Congrats JC happily surprised about the new member of the family. Sounds like you really got the color you wanted, heaven help us to try to keep up with you in the canyon now. Good luck on your mods, always look forward to seeing you soon.
Marty

Twolanerider · « **Reply #34 on:** August 15, 2009, 02:46:50 PM »

Congrats on the new bike. Hope it serves well for a long time. Hadn't noticed until the pics here that the rear fender extensions on these bikes didn't have a lower light in them as the Street Glides do (or at least used to).

RedDevil · « **Reply #35 on:** August 15, 2009, 02:54:11 PM »

JC,
Congrats on getting the "Grape". It looks great.

Like you one of the first things to go was that blasted wind deflector. I replaced mine with a 9 1/2 winshield because at 6'4" I need a little higher version...but that made all the difference. I agree with you that quiet is nice, but to me it's not a "Harley sounding" quiet. Mine more burbles, then rumbles, and I want that rumble...

Enjoy the ride JC, but I know that goes without saying.

Wrongway · « **Reply #36 on:** August 15, 2009, 03:10:42 PM »

Keeping up with you has been a chore in the past, now you go and do this to me. Man, what a bike! You look real good on it! Ride safe my friend and we'll see you soon. Dave

Mrs Rooster · « **Reply #37 on:** August 15, 2009, 04:24:21 PM »

JC, I'm real happy for you. You have to be grinning from ear to ear.

You have a couple of weeks to break it in, see ya soon. Tell Terrie hello.

sadunbar · « **Reply #38 on:** August 15, 2009, 04:52:15 PM »

Congratulations JC...

Your new ride looks good on you!!!

Ride safe and enjoy...

miker · « **Reply #39 on:** August 15, 2009, 05:42:30 PM »

Congratulations JC! Ride on!

Gettinold · « **Reply #40 on:** August 15, 2009, 07:21:19 PM »

Quote from: JCZ on August 15, 2009, 07:13:50 AM

I must be gettin old. I never thought I'd be saying this but it was a nice ride last night with a quiet bike. If I could get the performance and keep it that quiet..........I sure would. Never had a motorcycle that I could hear the stereo (and clearly) at 100 mph.

I also found it interesting that the break in is up to 4000 rpm for the first 50 miles and 5000 rpm for the first 500 miles. With the six speed you can actually move along pretty good with that rpm range, for the break in period. The hard part is to not maintain speed and having to slow back down for periods of time, just to vary the speed. I just want to go......go.......go!

Ive been trying to tell you all this for the past 5 years.

Congratulations JC on your new ride.

Lil-Bit · « **Reply #41 on:** August 15, 2009, 08:09:49 PM »

Very nice JC! Can't wait to see it in a couple of weeks

JasonDeezy · « **Reply #42 on:** August 15, 2009, 09:46:41 PM »

Cool! Too bad you didn't have it a few weeks back for Jim's open house for all to see. We all get to see it at Street Vibrations right?...

2UP3DOWN · « **Reply #43 on:** August 16, 2009, 07:02:44 AM »

Sweet ride JC! Congrats and enjoy!

~Matt

bbrown · « **Reply #44 on:** August 16, 2009, 08:40:45 AM »

Quote from: JCZ on August 15, 2009, 01:36:14 AM

Not sure where they got the name Concord for this blue bike. The others are named after alcoholic drinks (spiced rum, Tequilla..... ,etc.) I guess Concord (after the wine grapes) is the closest they could come for the blue bike. Color wise, it's very close to the "cobalt" if not exactly the same.......a beautiful bike!

I got this bike at $1000 below MSRP and $500 credit back on the dealer prep. At Redding Harley Davidson, here in Nor Cal. Jon (Jonga) is getting exactly the same deal on his 2010 SEUC in Burnt Amber and Citrus (it'll be in about five weeks).

They have several other CVOS that they're dealing on, too. He said that a couple of the 09s will get a better deal than I got (the 09 SE Dyna model with the weird dual headlights is one of them). They have a blue and silver 09 SEUC and a yellow 09 SE Springer that'll get the same deal that I got. First I heard of a CVO below MSRP and then a credit back of $500 on the $850 that's charged for the dealer prep.

No more SEEG??? Are you keepin it or did you trade it??

56FLE · « **Reply #45 on:** August 16, 2009, 09:53:22 AM »

Great steal JC, anything below or at MSRP on these bikes is rare at this point in time. I like the Concord bike best as well, the Grand Rapids, MI. HD has a Rum colored one on the floor right now, had a look at it in the show room and thought to myself, show me the Concord one.

You did good, enjoy the ride and the new bigger motor.

Funny how nobody is questioning the 110 motors anymore.

spydglide · « **Reply #46 on:** August 16, 2009, 09:53:58 AM »

What a great looking scooter, JC. You didn't have to move very far from the Huckleberry to the Grape, did you? I'll be very interesting watching what you do to it to make it 'yours'. Have fun/ride safe.

spyder

SBB · « **Reply #47 on:** August 16, 2009, 10:00:18 AM »

Quote from: 56FLE on August 16, 2009, 09:53:22 AM

Funny how nobody is questioning the 110 motors anymore.

Nobody?

SBB

56FLE · « **Reply #48 on:** August 16, 2009, 10:11:11 AM »

Quote from: SBB on August 16, 2009, 10:00:18 AM

Nobody?

SBB

Yea, only that guy "Nobody" is still making a fuss.

Rooster · « **Reply #49 on:** August 16, 2009, 10:23:31 AM »

I won't forget. But I am not worried anymore

JCZ · « **Reply #50 on:** August 16, 2009, 11:42:16 AM »

Quote from: RedDevil on August 15, 2009, 02:54:11 PM

JC,
Congrats on getting the "Grape". It looks great. Like you one of the first things to go was that blasted wind deflector. I replaced mine with a 9 1/2 winshield because at 6'4" I need a little higher version...but that made all the difference. I agree with you that quiet is nice, but to me it's not a "Harley sounding" quiet. Mine more burbles, then rumbles, and I want that rumble...

Enjoy the ride JC, but I know that goes without saying.

I'm 6'4" also and have been riding with the 8" dark tint Windvest since they first came out seven months ago. I think you'll find it a little more to your liking.

JCZ · « **Reply #51 on:** August 16, 2009, 11:47:27 AM »

Quote from: JasonDeezy on August 15, 2009, 09:46:41 PM

Cool! Too bad you didn't have it a few weeks back for Jim's open house for all to see. We all get to see it at Street Vibrations right?...

No Jason........we'll not be at Street Vibrations. Done that just to many years in a row and nothing changes. Jeorge and Martha are coming out from Florida and so we'll be doing the bay area tour with them that weekend.

It's the same bike as yours......except it has the batwing fairing. Oh, and I have "real" streatched saddle bags with usuable space.

All 2"x2" of it.

Hoist! · « **Reply #52 on:** August 16, 2009, 11:49:10 AM »

Quote from: 56FLE on August 16, 2009, 09:53:22 AM

Great steal JC, anything below or at MSRP on these bikes is rare at this point in time. I like the Concord bike best as well, the Grand Rapids, MI. HD has a Rum colored one on the floor right now, had a look at it in the show room and thought to myself, show me the Concord one.

You did good, enjoy the ride and the new bigger motor.

Funny how nobody is questioning the 110 motors anymore.

Especially all those that said how much they loved their 103's and wouldn't touch a 110 with a 10' pole! They finally fixed a leak! BFD! No other design changes, so don't expect a miracle now with these motors! Nothing's changed! Welcome to HELL gang!!!

Hoist!

JCZ · « **Reply #53 on:** August 16, 2009, 11:55:56 AM »

Just a side note.........the SEEG is for sale (if Jim hasn't sold it already). Call Jim (hd-dude) at Metal Dragon.

I'll admit that I love that SEEG every day and every mile that I owned it. I'll admit that I wondered if I'd have remorse after buying the SESG and having to sell the SEEG. I'll admit that I love this new SESG and I haven't spent a second looking back!

I had both of them together yesterday, at Jim's. And when it came time to leave it was not even a question........I left on the bike that I wanted to leave on and there wasn't the slightest pull in the other direction. If you're on a SEEG and are wondering (cause we all know the SEEG was the ultimate bike up till the 09 SERG and 2010 SESG)............for what it's worth, that's my perspective.

JCZ · « **Reply #54 on:** August 16, 2009, 11:58:42 AM »

Quote from: Hoist! on August 16, 2009, 11:49:10 AM

Especially all those that said how much they loved their 103's and wouldn't touch a 110 with a 10' pole! They finally fixed a leak! BFD! No other design changes, so don't expect a miracle now with these motors! Nothing's changed! Welcome to HELL gang!!!

Hoist!

Howie, you're always so doom and gloom. You need to get out in the sun!

Be nice........I know it's hard for you, but try.

bbrown · « **Reply #55 on:** August 16, 2009, 12:00:51 PM »

Quote from: JCZ on August 16, 2009, 11:55:56 AM

Just a side note.........the SEEG is for sale (if Jim hasn't sold it already). Call Jim (hd-dude) at Metal Dragon.

I'll admit that I love that SEEG every day and every mile that I owned it. I'll admit that I wondered if I'd have remorse after buying the SESG and having to sell the SEEG. I'll admit that I love this new SESG and I haven't spent a second looking back!

I had both of them together yesterday, at Jim's. And when it came time to leave it was not even a question........I left on the bike that I wanted to leave on and there wasn't the slightest pull in the other direction. If you're on a SEEG and are wondering (cause we all know the SEEG was the ultimate bike up till the 09 SERG and 2010 SESG)............for what it's worth, that's my perspective.

Thanks I appreciated and needed that perspective

Hoist! · « **Reply #56 on:** August 16, 2009, 12:02:26 PM »

Quote from: JCZ on August 16, 2009, 11:58:42 AM

Howie, you're always so doom and gloom. You need to get out in the sun!

Be nice........I know it's hard for you, but try.

Hey JC! Saw Mike's new Concord yesterday! BEAUTIFUL bike! And I wished you good luck with yours early on. But face it man, nothing's changed with these motors. You have Jim out there and know what you gotta do to it. But anyone buying a new 110 needs to know that nothing's changed except fixing the leaks. I didn't create the gloom and doom. MoCo did!!! Don't shoot the messenger! FTF!!! Just like hdfr120's plate says!!!

Hoist!

56FLE · « **Reply #57 on:** August 16, 2009, 07:51:07 PM »

Some people have good luck and some people have bad luck when it comes to 110 motors. I have a bit of both, rode the first motor until it ate a lifter and then an oil pump within 3 days last year in the Northwest USA. This happened at 24,500 miles. HD stepped up and replaced the complete motor with a new one in August of 2008. The 2009 where out so I have to think I got a motor with all the lastest fixes for the oil leaks and such.

Well, am 50 mile from 50,000 miles on the bike now, 25K+ miles on the new motor and it runs really well without any problems.

JCZ · « **Reply #58 on:** August 16, 2009, 09:59:25 PM »

Quote from: 56FLE on August 16, 2009, 07:51:07 PM

Some people have good luck and some people have bad luck when it comes to 110 motors. I have a bit of both, rode the first motor until it ate a lifter and then an oil pump within 3 days last year in the Northwest USA. This happened at 24,500 miles. HD stepped up and replaced the complete motor with a new one in August of 2008. The 2009 where out so I have to think I got a motor with all the lastest fixes for the oil leaks and such.

Well, am 50 mile from 50,000 miles on the bike now, 25K+ miles on the new motor and it runs really well without any problems.

I witnessed that first hand as we rode together in Ore, Wash and now Calif.

You do get around on that thing.

dirtyoldman · « **Reply #59 on:** August 16, 2009, 10:46:15 PM »

awesome bike, still not sure i like the angled bag bottoms,, but hey, one piece and custom painted already,, beautiful!! thnx for the info 4 Jim's btw, will be calling him this week.

Trapperdog · « **Reply #60 on:** August 16, 2009, 11:36:53 PM »

Quote from: Hoist! on August 16, 2009, 11:49:10 AM

Especially all those that said how much they loved their 103's and wouldn't touch a 110 with a 10' pole! They finally fixed a leak! BFD! No other design changes, so don't expect a miracle now with these motors! Nothing's changed! Welcome to HELL gang!!!

Hoist!

Speaking of how nothings changed........

Trapperdog · « **Reply #61 on:** August 16, 2009, 11:41:22 PM »

JC, great to see the bike today, sure is purdy! Melanie's jealous. When are the blue Dakota digital gauges going on? With the blue lights?

JCZ · « **Reply #62 on:** August 17, 2009, 12:22:01 AM »

Quote from: trapperdog on August 16, 2009, 11:41:22 PM

JC, great to see the bike today, sure is purdy! Melanie's jealous. When are the blue Dakota digital gauges going on? With the blue lights?

They're on the list.........and will be done when the painted inner fairing and cap are done. Which means

miker · « **Reply #63 on:** August 17, 2009, 08:17:21 AM »

Dang, yer spoilt! Lucky dawg!

vtyanqui · « **Reply #64 on:** August 17, 2009, 09:03:04 AM »

Congratulations on your new scooter; it looks great.

JCZ · « **Reply #65 on:** August 17, 2009, 09:27:52 AM »

Quote from: miker on August 17, 2009, 08:17:21 AM

Dang, yer spoilt! Lucky dawg!

Not a whole lot unlike you Mike........I spoil myself.

miker · « **Reply #66 on:** August 17, 2009, 09:31:11 AM »

Yea, I manage to treat (or mistreat) myself pretty good...Congrats again! Welcome to 110 land...

GregKhougaz · « **Reply #67 on:** August 17, 2009, 06:53:54 PM »

Nice lookin' scoot, JC! Enjoy!!

jonga · « **Reply #68 on:** August 17, 2009, 07:52:39 PM »

JC congrats on your new steed, looking forward to seeing what ALL you do to make it yours. Funny how it works .... last bike I was putting stuff on and next one I will be taking stuff off. Can't wait. I have to say I liked the sound of Terri's bike a little more than yours the other day, I guess thats because I couldn't hear yours hahaha. I agree with some of the other folks that blue is the best color especially for you my friend. Jon

BANDANAGIRL · « **Reply #69 on:** August 17, 2009, 10:02:44 PM »

Congratulations JC.

Was looking forward to seeing it yesterday, sorry we missed you guys.
Got the message a little too late. I can see why you left Eagles Nest before we got there .
It was a mad house. We didnt stay long either. We will see it for sure in San Juan Bautista!

Soozie

tjstreetglide · « **Reply #70 on:** August 18, 2009, 08:44:53 AM »

Jcz
On the 110 that you had broke down, What was the cause of the brake down?
My rum bike I purchased on 8/12 Is still awaiting some work done on it before I pick it up, starting to get itchy to get the bike. What are the problem on the 110? Anything I shoud have done on it while it is at the shop. It kinkof sounds like it needs a fueling cam plate and oil pump and some seals someplace
Thanks
TJ

JCZ · « **Reply #71 on:** August 19, 2009, 08:34:14 AM »

Quote from: tjstreetglide on August 18, 2009, 08:44:53 AM

Jcz
On the 110 that you had broke down, What was the cause of the brake down?
My rum bike I purchased on 8/12 Is still awaiting some work done on it before I pick it up, starting to get itchy to get the bike. What are the problem on the 110? Anything I shoud have done on it while it is at the shop. It kinkof sounds like it needs a fueling cam plate and oil pump and some seals someplace
Thanks
TJ

My bike didn't brake down. I did have to bleed the clutch the first day. It kept wanting to pull forward even with the clutch all the way in and it was getting very hard to shift. Bled the clutch and now it's smooth and neutral is super easy to find any time.

I did have Jim wire my GPS and put the antenna up in the fairing, changed the shifter rods to the E-Z Brake shifter rods (they're longer by 1 1/2 inches either way). Going to get some more stuff done today.

I've got about 700 miles on it so far and I'm happy as can be.

CVOJOE · « **Reply #72 on:** August 25, 2009, 02:23:32 AM »

Congrats JC! Hope you enjoy it and may your 110' be trouble free. And a big thank you for the $2,754.33
contribution to the Kalitfornia deficit!!

Joe

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