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Yukla95

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Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« on: January 10, 2006, 11:17:51 PM »

I am wondering if anyone is having the same problem I am. I saw a few references to it in an old thread about "Engine Knock" (I hope that problem is resolved now). When my bike has been sitting in the cold for a while it will not stay running until it warms up. It chokes and spits and throws white smoke out the right side unless you hold the throttle up to around 1500 rpm until warm. The dealership first flashed the ECM and that didn't work then the MoCo suggested it might be a Idle Air Control Stepper motor, replaced and still having problem. Now there is another one in the shop for the same thing and the MoCo has authorized the shop to download a stage 1 flash into the ECM. Will have to wait and see. When it is warm, there is no problem whatsoever.
Ever hear of this on others? What was the final resolution if you have had this?
Thanks for the help and this great site!

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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2006, 07:58:31 AM »

I have the same problem. Bike still at dealer since Dec 14th. Waiting for racing re-cal
part #34304-06 to be released from MOCO. Had them install Rineharts & stage one a/c.
They said that once they install the re-cal, my idle problems will go away.
I called the MOCO yesterday & was told the re-cal is back-ordered until Jan 25th. This is the
third time they have changed the delivery date.
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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2006, 08:14:34 AM »

I hope you fellows get the issue resolved.  I think they are running too lean.  That's why you bought an EFI bike so you could start and drive off and not fiddle with a choke.
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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2006, 08:26:14 AM »

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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2006, 08:27:08 AM »

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I have the same problem. Bike still at dealer since Dec 14th. Waiting for racing re-cal
part #34304-06 to be released from MOCO. Had them install Rineharts & stage one a/c.
They said that once they install the re-cal, my idle problems will go away.
I called the MOCO yesterday & was told the re-cal is back-ordered until Jan 25th. This is the
third time they have changed the delivery date.

jvall, not sure what part of the country you're in, but unless you're snowed in, that's a long time to wait for a download.  Seems like it would be better to go with a SERT and load the map they now have for your set up.  Of course, it you're unable to ride due to weather, no biggie to wait.
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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2006, 09:33:54 AM »

GC_SUPER, the only positive is that it is winter. Can you give me the map number so I can
                relay it to my lack of knowledge dealer.
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« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2006, 11:12:44 AM »

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GC_SUPER, the only positive is that it is winter. Can you give me the map number so I can
            
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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2006, 12:26:37 PM »

Many Thanks,  Jim
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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2006, 01:23:42 PM »

Wow, thanks for the responses...I have been told that they are going to do the same thing but was told that the cartridges are in stock at the MoCo and will be shipped to the dealership this week. Mine has been in three times already and I am giving it back this Friday and letting them keep it for a week while I am on a business trip (to Hawaii!...I know I shouldn't have said that).
I was also told that the reason they want to do the "Cartridges" is because they just "flash" the ECM and get a return authorization from the MoCo who doesn't want the SERTs returned after they have been matched up with a VIN.   Cheers [smiley=drink.gif]
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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2006, 02:10:36 PM »

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Wow, thanks for the responses...I have been told that they are going to do the same thing but was told that the cartridges are in stock at the MoCo and will be shipped to the dealership this week. Mine has been in three times already and I am giving it back this Friday and letting them keep it for a week while I am on a business trip (to Hawaii!...I know I shouldn't have said that).
[highlight]I was also told that the reason they want to do the "Cartridges" is because they just "flash" the ECM and get a return authorization from the MoCo who doesn't want the SERTs returned after they have been matched up with a VIN. [/highlight]
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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2006, 02:20:39 PM »

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Wow, thanks for the responses...I have been told that they are going to do the same thing but was told that the cartridges are in stock at the MoCo and will be shipped to the dealership this week. Mine has been in three times already and I am giving it back this Friday and letting them keep it for a week while I am on a business trip (to Hawaii!...I know I shouldn't have said that).
I was also told that the reason they want to do the "Cartridges" is because they just "flash" the ECM and get a return authorization from the MoCo who doesn't want the SERTs returned after they have been matched up with a VIN.
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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2006, 02:30:54 PM »

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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2006, 06:03:33 PM »

My dealership is telling me the same as UltraFXR except he still contends that it will be in on tomorrow. FR8TRN...I do not have the SE Breather on the new bike, was waiting to get the thing running right. I like the SERT on the 02 SERK and may go to that when I decide what I am going to do with pipes and the breather.
I will be very interested in seeing how this works because the shop is going to do the same load with a bone stock bike (mine) and one that has slip ons, and SE Breather, and a Vance and Hines Tuner...don't make a lot of sense that a flash would fix the other bike.
I think there may be something more to this problem.

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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2006, 05:22:59 PM »

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Got this from another post, but here it is:

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Re: Cold Idle Problems with the FLHTCUSE
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2006, 06:01:21 PM »

Jvall...I got the word today, Jan 25th is the shipping date for the cartridges. Not sure when they will hit the shop.

2Up...yes, it is a flash for the current ECM and it DOES require a cartridge. We are being told that the MoCo will NOT release this version except this way. Not sure why but we think it has something to do with fixing a production vehicle with a non-EPA flash. I have no idea at this point, I do know that the better get something together and fix this problem ASAP.

Cheers all,  [smiley=drink.gif]

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