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HARLEY-DAVIDSON® FORTY-EIGHT™ IS A RAW AND RADICAL RIDE
« on: January 22, 2010, 09:39:50 AM »

New Sportster® Model Brings Brawn as Chiseled Custom with Power and Performance
MILWAUKEE (January 22, 2010) – The new Harley-Davidson Forty-Eight motorcycle is a factory custom in the legendary tradition of the hot rod Sportster line with the raw, elemental appeal of the Dark Custom™ bikes.

Riding low with a slammed suspension and featuring the classic 2.1-gallon "peanut" fuel tank, the Forty-Eight backs up its bulldog appearance with the performance of its blacked out and polished rubber-mounted Evolution® 1200 cc V-Twin engine. The low solo seat, under-mounted mirrors, side mount license plate, clean rear fender and tall and fat front tire emphasize the Forty Eight's focus on chiseled customization.

And while the Forty-Eight model may break bad when it comes to radical attitude and straight-on style, it won't break the bank starting at just $10,499 MSRP in Vivid Black.

"With its classic bulldog shoulders stance, the Forty-Eight strikes a distinctive look and low profile that could only come from Harley-Davidson," said Ray Drea, Harley-Davidson Senior Director of Styling. "The Forty-Eight model has a collective past life experience and broken-in look that is raw and authentic."

As a Harley-Davidson Dark Custom motorcycle, the Forty-Eight is ready to ride as a radical custom and also primed to take on its rider's character and personality. Dark Custom accomplices of the Forty-Eight include the Nightster®, Iron 883™, Cross Bones®, Fat Bob® and Street Bob®. Check out more on Dark Custom motorcycles at www.harley-davidson.com/darkcustom.

Harley-Davidson Sportster models like the Forty-Eight have retained an aura of rebellion since their introduction in 1957, when the foundation of custom culture was being formed by hot rod gear heads hanging out on city street corners, in gritty garages or at dusty dragstrips. Sportster motorcycles became an iron canvas for many legendary choppers of that hot rod era and beyond.

Lying low from tire-to-tire, the Forty-Eight model showcases more of its black 1200 Evolution V-Twin engine with polished accents and other components with a clean look highlighted by the traditional peanut fuel tank, small solo seat and lightening holes in the backbone mounting bracket. The Forty-Eight has more than just custom cool styling with the smooth ride on new front fork sliders, a tall and fat front tire and slammed rear suspension.

With Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI) and performance tuning with a broad torque curve, the Forty-Eight motorcycle delivers a powerfully responsive ride with smooth clutch effort. The pipes on the chrome, shorty dual exhaust pound out the distinctive Harley-Davidson American V-Twin sound.

The Forty-Eight embraces the street up front with forward foot controls, low profile custom handlebar, under-mounted mirrors, fork-mounted turn signals, slammed speedometer mounting bracket and fork brace with lightening holes. A unique dual texture solo seat with a height of 26 inches fits the lone rider, while a passenger pillion, footpegs and backrest are some of the many accessories that can be added.

The black chopped rear fender with combination stop/turn/tail lights and a side mounted license plate help show-off the 150 mm rear tire and 16-inch Black Steel Laced wheels. The front tire also rides on a wide black wheel.

The Forty-Eight model comes in Vivid Black, Brilliant Silver and Mirage Orange Pearl colors and will be available soon at Harley-Davidson dealers.

Forty-Eight features and highlights:

Blacked out rubber-mounted Evolution 1200 cc V-Twin engine with polished covers
Electronic Sequential Port Fuel Injection (ESPFI)
Steel 2.1-gallon peanut fuel tank with lightening hole mounting bracket
One-piece, solo Sportster classic seat
26-inch seat height
Tall and fat 130 mm Dunlop MT90 front tire
16-inch Black Steel Laced wheels
Low profile custom handlebar
Under-mounted mirrors
New front forks with wide triple clamps
Chopped front fender mounted on fork brace with lightening holes
Blacked components including air cleaner cover, clutch and brake levers and turn signals
Chopped rear fender
Stop-turn-tail lights
Side-mounted license plate
Two-year factory warranty
Optional Harley-Davidson Smart Security System
Harley-Davidson Motor Company produces heavyweight custom, cruiser and touring motorcycles and offers a complete line of Harley-Davidson motorcycle parts, accessories, riding gear and apparel, and general merchandise. For more information, visit Harley-Davidson's Web site at www.harley-davidson.com.

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Re: HARLEY-DAVIDSON® FORTY-EIGHT™ IS A RAW AND RADICAL RIDE
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2010, 10:17:21 AM »




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Re: HARLEY-DAVIDSON® FORTY-EIGHT™ IS A RAW AND RADICAL RIDE
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2010, 11:02:07 AM »

I agree SBB,
Sad to read about HD and the stock going down in the other thread, and now it seems HD's solution is to change the color of lipstick on the same old pig....Very expensive bar hopper (won't go far with that small tank.)
For $10,500 other brands give you lot's more features and performance not just styling.
I still like HD and hope they will some day get a system in place where we can order a bike exactly the way we want it to begin with and not need the massive parts catalog. And just my opinion, but I think HD needs to get into the lower price and higher performance ranges of the competetors to get younger riders interested in order to survive. Not spend so much money and time on cosmetics.
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Re: HARLEY-DAVIDSON® FORTY-EIGHT™ IS A RAW AND RADICAL RIDE
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2010, 11:16:54 AM »

I agree SBB,
Sad to read about HD and the stock going down in the other thread, and now it seems HD's solution is to change the color of lipstick on the same old pig....Very expensive bar hopper (won't go far with that small tank.)
For $10,500 other brands give you lot's more features and performance not just styling.
I still like HD and hope they will some day get a system in place where we can order a bike exactly the way we want it to begin with and not need the massive parts catalog. And just my opinion, but I think HD needs to get into the lower price and higher performance ranges of the competetors to get younger riders interested in order to survive. Not spend so much money and time on cosmetics.

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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2010, 11:32:08 AM »

OK someone help me here, 48 what ?  :nixweiss:  Doc
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Re: HARLEY-DAVIDSON® FORTY-EIGHT™ IS A RAW AND RADICAL RIDE
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2010, 12:06:21 PM »

New sportster model
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Re: HARLEY-DAVIDSON® FORTY-EIGHT™ IS A RAW AND RADICAL RIDE
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2010, 12:07:21 PM »

Possibly a 1948 Bobber style? That's what returning war vets did to get their WLA or other Harley to go faster, strip it down to lighten it up some.
(Or maybe they think at least 48 people will buy one) :huepfenlol2:
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Re: HARLEY-DAVIDSON® FORTY-EIGHT™ IS A RAW AND RADICAL RIDE
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2010, 12:12:10 PM »

a Fatboy sportster ?  Harley will have to do better than that if they want to attract fresh blood.
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Re: HARLEY-DAVIDSON® FORTY-EIGHT™ IS A RAW AND RADICAL RIDE
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2010, 12:36:12 PM »

 
:computer:  Looks like an orange Nightster.   :nixweiss:   :smilie_daumenneg:   :smilie_daumenneg:
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Re: HARLEY-DAVIDSON® FORTY-EIGHT™ IS A RAW AND RADICAL RIDE
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2010, 12:44:33 PM »

Possibly a 1948 Bobber style? That's what returning war vets did to get their WLA or other Harley to go faster, strip it down to lighten it up some.
(Or maybe they think at least 48 people will buy one) :huepfenlol2:

If they make 48, they might have a few left over next year. That bike should retail for 4.8 to sell well.  ::)    Doc
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2010, 01:19:55 PM »

Agree.  It's like Taco Bell re-arranging their five ingredients in a different way and slapping a new name on it.  And who writes their ad copy?  "It was a dark and stormy night.  Out of the inky blackness a single beam of stark white illuminated a lone figure astride the meanest collection of hot iron to come this way since armor-clad knights of olde rode fiery steeds into battle."  Buell was supposed to be the "entry bike" to Harley; something I never quite got: Blast-Sportster-Softail-Touring?  First they mocked that by selling crushed Blasts as coffee tables, then dumped the line entirely.  That leaves the Sporty as the entry bike.  Some models are a lot better at that than it used to be, but still higher-priced than most people getting into riding are willing to spend.  A gallon and a half of usable fuel is pretty ridiculous too.

I'm all for retaining models for long periods with improvements.  But this is just parts bin bolt-ons.
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Re: HARLEY-DAVIDSON® FORTY-EIGHT™ IS A RAW AND RADICAL RIDE
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2010, 02:08:01 PM »

If you go on holiday to Italy you will find thousands of sportsters already modified in this style, so thats a no brainer where these will sell well!
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2010, 03:24:23 PM »

OK someone help me here, 48 what ?  :nixweiss:  Doc


I think its for $4800 dollars more expensive that any other bike in its class. 
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2010, 03:30:55 PM »

If you go on holiday to Italy you will find thousands of sportsters already modified in this style, so thats a no brainer where these will sell well!

Well, if you go to Germany, Sweden, or England you see a ton of those C'Rockets..
You know, those "watercooled" extremely fast  dependable bikes?
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2010, 04:40:01 PM »

Willie G. has to be a Rolling Stones fan.  Cause he thinks "Paint it Black" is the answer to everything.  How about something new?  A better engine? Electronics that aren't stone aged?  Maybe a full fairinged cafe racer (I'm just grasping at straws now).

Chip has it right.  Yawn.

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« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2010, 04:53:20 PM »

Willie G. has to be a Rolling Stones fan.  Cause he thinks "Paint it Black" is the answer to everything.  How about something new?  A better engine? Electronics that aren't stone aged?  Maybe a full fairinged cafe racer (I'm just grasping at straws now).

Chip has it right.  Yawn.

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Take the Rotax used in the Buells and put it in a Sportster chassis.
Leave it naked, no extra body work and even with the radiator it would be a fun bike.
What is that motor, 140 HP and a 100 Torque on a 450 lb naked bike, that would be a blast! (no pun intended)
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« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2010, 06:12:20 PM »

This is just another attempt by the MoCo to attract a younger audience.  I know 5 people who bought their first HD last year.  All are over 45 and have been riding c-rockets for most of their life.  They where moving up to a more "mature" ride.  Not to insult anyone, but how many of us are over 40 or 50?  IMHO, HD needs to continue to focus on the more mature, experienced rider and keep us happy so we continue to come back for more abuse!   :2vrolijk_21:     
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2010, 06:43:42 PM »

The Rotax/Polaris/Victory connection probably caused a problem. I'm supprised Rotax just didn't buy Harley.  Doc
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« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2010, 07:31:47 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2010, 07:32:05 PM »

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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2010, 07:35:23 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2010, 07:35:53 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2010, 08:59:25 PM »

Let's see...what else could I get for $10,400 if I was a young rider?

BMW F 800 ST  $10905

Yamaha FZ 1  $10290  OR  YZF R6 $10490  OR YZF R6S $8690 

Suzuki GS500F  $5899   OR    SV650SF (with ABS!) $7999  OR GSX-R600 $10399

ETc etc..   H-D needs to wise up if they are going to attract a younger audience.  Their over-hyped B.S. ad copy isn't a replacement for a well priced motorcycle with real features that performs. Repainting a "Hugger" ain't gonna make it.

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« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2010, 11:11:56 PM »

Remember guys, we (CVO owners) are not the market that the MoCo are going after. They may have sent Neal the pictures but I'm sure they weren't think any of us were going to buy one except maybe for one of our kids. I agree that there are a lot of other options out there for the price. To answer slamr's question, I ran a poll here a while ago about our age. I believe the average age was around 55.

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« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2010, 12:02:29 AM »

Bigger front tire and a smaller tank!? I'll keep my 97 XLC 1200 with 3.3 g tank for $4K..duh. My bar hopper is cheaper and I can get to more bars - for a non-alcohol drink of course, these days. I can always slap the 2.2 from my 91 XLCH on my 97 and be close to this new Sportster. How about a six speed tranny and a slightly stretched frame?
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« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2010, 12:17:14 AM »

  It is difficult to comprehend why the MoCo refuses to view progressive styling and function as a good thing.  Having state-of-the-art engineering and design capabilities at your finger tips seems to make no difference.  The result continues to be, “More of the same.”  :nixweiss:
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« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2010, 12:30:58 AM »

I bet Hoist would buy it. ;D leftover Buell parts anyway.
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« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2010, 12:43:57 AM »

 It is difficult to comprehend why the MoCo refuses to view progressive styling and function as a good thing.  Having state-of-the-art engineering and design capabilities at your finger tips seems to make no difference.  The result continues to be, “More of the same.”  :nixweiss:

They're using Neal as an advertising medium (rather than a consumer research resource).  How bright can they be  :nixweiss: ?
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Re: HARLEY-DAVIDSON® FORTY-EIGHT™ IS A RAW AND RADICAL RIDE
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2010, 01:13:27 AM »

A Sportster by any other name is still a Sportster....The MoCo has 5 basic models (XL, VR, FXR, FXST, and FLH) of bikes that they just change the tins on or add windshields, fairings, saddle bags, etc, to come up with what looks like a huge line of motor cycles....but face it, it's a pretty stagnant line.  Changing the cover on a book doesn't make it read any different.  I have no problems with HD keeping their high end line up for us "old geezers" and loyal HD riders, but if they want to have a loyal following to take our place, they're going to have to modernize the entry level motorcycles.  IMO they killed the line that did just that, the Buells.  Putting new tins on the Sportster frame and taking a few different parts out of the P&A catalog is not going to bring in that younger crowd.  The MoCo needs to wake up and get with the program for entry level motorcycles.  Anybody notice how fast those Buell 1125R's went at $6995?  MoCo, did you take notice of that?  You've got a hidden gold mine there if you cared to open your eyes and see that.

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« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2010, 02:33:06 AM »

They're using Neal as an advertising medium (rather than a consumer research resource).  How bright can they be  :nixweiss: ?

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« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2010, 08:35:13 AM »

Take the Rotax used in the Buells and put it in a Sportster chassis.
Leave it naked, no extra body work and even with the radiator it would be a fun bike.


the 2 1125 CR our dealer got last year are still around. They are tying to sell them nationwide since last september - to no avail as of now. Old XB-Riders usually are disappointed with the handling and the engine is a beast. The bike is our mec's nightmare btw. Successfull bike-building is not just drawing numbers on paper.
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« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2010, 08:53:25 AM »

It's not that I don't like the bike.  I've always liked the big-tired, low, minimalist stuff (I even like Russell Mitchell's bikes usually) and have actually considered getting an Iron.  I just don't think it will draw people away from the alternatives in that price range.  You have to want a Harley or nothing else.  People often ask, "why don't they make..."   I don't think Harley is capable or willing to develop anything that compares.  Their modern engines were both developed by someone else; their ABS braking system too.   When they do things themselves we get the 110.  They are still existing mainly on image.  Maybe that's why I have five Motorclothes jackets and do most of my Christmas shopping there.  Thank you sir, may I have another?
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« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2010, 11:51:36 AM »

They're using Neal as an advertising medium (rather than a consumer research resource).  How bright can they be  :nixweiss: ?

nothing so sinster, i saw it and liked the look of it  :oops:
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« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2010, 12:13:51 PM »

nothing so sinster, i saw it and liked the look of it  :oops:

Maybe if it was purple :-\ ?
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« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2010, 12:27:13 PM »

hmmmmmmm, maybe but i think the style of it works well in any color as long as its black
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« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2010, 01:52:55 PM »

I think their new Cuckoo Clock makes more sense and gives new direction to the company...brilliant. :P  Doc
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hmmmmmmm, maybe but i think the style of it works well in any color as long as its black

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« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2010, 02:34:16 PM »

hmmmmmmm, maybe but i think the style of it works well in any color as long as its black

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« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2010, 07:45:28 PM »

hmmmmmmm, maybe but i think the style of it works well in any color as long as its black

Didn't Henry Ford say the same thing?

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« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2010, 01:33:31 AM »

The look is cool and not cheap. I like the fat tire on the front. I didn't know license plates could be side mounted. Is that legal in CA? (Red light cameras????)

It does look like a younger guys bike or at least somebody 25 and more pounds lighter than me.  I need a 6-gal tanked bike to help make my gluteus maximus look a little more minimus.  Doesn't really match my 50 yo hair style either. Maybe after a trip to Jiffy Suk-Tuk-n-Dye.
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« Reply #42 on: January 24, 2010, 08:44:53 AM »

The small sportster tank has always been a great look and the reason it worked well on the old choppers was that it gave you a reason to stop every 50 miles and get off.  :oops: har.  :drink: spyder
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« Reply #43 on: January 24, 2010, 11:39:47 AM »

OK someone help me here, 48 what ?  :nixweiss:  Doc

I believe that 1948 was the year the peanut tank was introduced.
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« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2010, 11:50:32 AM »

What are they thinking, kill the Buell and put your money in a high priced sportster?  Although I like the looks of the bike, it is not the way to draw in the young crowd.  Put Eric's motor in it and see the difference.
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« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2010, 11:53:09 AM »

Considering Sportster's didn't exist until 1957 (the predecessor "K" models were introduced in 1952), I also don't follow the "48" designation.  Forty Eight what?  Dollars, horsepower, cubic inches, what?   The only major thing I can think of that happened at Harley in 1948 was the introduction of the Pan Head.  What am I missing here?

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« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2010, 12:05:05 PM »

Considering Sportster's didn't exist until 1957 (the predecessor "K" models were introduced in 1952), I also don't follow the "48" designation.  Forty Eight what?  Dollars, horsepower, cubic inches, what?   The only major thing I can think of that happened at Harley in 1948 was the introduction of the Pan Head.  What am I missing here?

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Must be the months in financing you have to take out to afford it.   :nixweiss:  It's definitely not cubic inches because I believe a 1200cc is 74ci.  They probably came up with "48" to do exactly what it's done, cause ppl to question where it came from distracting us from the fact that this is isn't going to do much for the MoCo.  JMO

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« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2010, 05:46:37 PM »

once again 1948 is the year the peanut tank was introduced, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harley-Davidson_Hummer  i don't usually quote wikipedia, but they are accurate in this aspect.
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« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2010, 11:06:03 PM »



Yup, I think I remember reading somewhere that the first "peanut" tank came out in 1948 (not on that wikipedia page, however).  But it wasn't on a Sportster, since those didn't exist at the time.  So my question remains, why call this Sportster bobber a "48"?  And in this modern day and age, who in their right mind wants a two gallon fuel tank?  It might have been a great idea back when the engines were solid mounts and would buzz the fillings right out of your teeth so you needed to take a break every 30 miles, but the current rubber mounted bikes can actually be ridden for greater distances without permanent damage to your body.  Just one more case of Harley doing nothing to attract the folks who want a capable and modern motorcycle.  Spending maybe a week and a hundred bucks to "develop" one more retro styling exercise in a long line of do nothing styling exercises doesn't impress me.  Sorry if I'm not easily led or fooled, MoCo.

Want to sell some Sportster's?  Try putting some of Eric Buell's stuff on them, like his version of the Sporty engine that actually puts out some credible power, or some of his suspension ideas, or anything that is actually a functional improvement.  Putting different clothes on a tired old hag doesn't make her more than a tired old hag.  Thinking that the public is stupid enough to keep falling for this stuff is insulting.  BTW, MoCo, if I wanted a stripped down bobber that looked like something thrown together in someone's back yard, I could do it myself for a lot less.  Why don't you leave the "custom" stuff to the owners, and just work on improving the functionality, design, and quality of your product line?  Make a Sportster that is actually competitive with the competition, like back in 1957.

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« Reply #49 on: January 25, 2010, 12:07:37 AM »


  And in this modern day and age, who in their right mind wants a two gallon fuel tank? 


Two things come to mind Jerry.  As counterintuitive as it is to most of the group here there are guys (we shan't call them riders) for whom 50-60 miles is a long ride.  Guys that don't ride the highway and truly use their bikes like high speed vespa scooters.  There's a name for such posers but it escapes me now.  Other idea is HD markets paint to match "real" tanks for those that like to ride farther than they can walk.
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« Reply #50 on: January 25, 2010, 10:42:01 AM »

Moco should read this quote from Henry Ford!

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« Reply #51 on: January 25, 2010, 12:41:50 PM »

Hey, I just had a thought!
OMG, don't fall out, it does happen.
Take the Rotax used in the Buells and put it in a Sportster chassis.
Leave it naked, no extra body work and even with the radiator it would be a fun bike.
What is that motor, 140 HP and a 100 Torque on a 450 lb naked bike, that would be a blast! (no pun intended)
Hey Jerry (GRC) can you get me a job with Harley, I bet they would sell more than 48 of those!

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« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2010, 02:40:49 PM »

And then HD can sell the 3.3 gallon tank in the P&A catalog.
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« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2010, 05:20:42 PM »

Well, now we're gonna give people who've read some of our past banter a hard attack... But you and I are in complete agreement.   Geeezzzz I'm batting 2 for 2! :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:  I've been arguing that after seing the Road Glide / Vrod conversion kits, that the MoCo should bring something like that out.  But I also think a stripped screamer like a bare Sporty with a killer motor would definetly get some real attention.  Especially if they took some of Buell's engineering that made those bikes handle so well. But since we are in the real world JC we know there's no way the MOCO would ever listen to the base of customers that have the ability to purchase their most expensive product and most likely can or will do it again.

I've never left.  Never will.  I have an open forum relationship.  My forum allows me to play with other forums.  JC, if it was really your forum I would have joined a long time ago. I always seek good info and CVOHarley is my #1 source of all good info CVO/Screamin Eagle related. There are other forums I play with and review, but this one is home.  ;D  :o  ::)  Just crazy busy at work the last three month's since my firm got bought out.  Hoping the current lull lasts so us IT people can catch our breath.  JC, I hope that lull last long enough for you to get some good riding in!

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« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2010, 07:26:01 PM »

Sorry, Chip.  We're keeping all travel on hold for this year, with my schedule so up in the air.  We're only comitting to the York tour becasue we're right around the corner, so to speak.  But I really appreciate the invite, and if that weekend ends up free for me, well WV is only a few hours away.  We could always ride in for a day to just say hi and take a ride with some folks.

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  We could always ride in for a day to just say hi and take a ride with some folks.



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« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2010, 06:44:41 PM »



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I agree! If Harley wants to attract younger people they need to compete with the sport bikes! Why not put a 98" motor in that Sporster and make it a "Sporster from Hell" I saw one once at the Sacramento speedway and it was turning flat 12sec. 1/4 miles. Now a hand full like that might attract a younger audience. I don't think a black paint job and a fatbob front end will do squat!   :nixweiss: BORING !!!!!!
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