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Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« on: May 13, 2010, 12:19:24 AM »

I saw that someone posted about this stuff awhile back and there were only a few replies, of which one was going to wait to see what others have to say.  I just installed this in my fairing and it's an impressive difference.  It's just foam padding with a self-adhesive backing and it's cut to fit the inside of the outer fairing.  It's available for Batwing and RoadGlide fairings.  My front speakers really overpower my other 6 speakers now.  They have a significantly fuller sound and much better bass.  You can actually feel the difference if you put you hand in front of one of the speakers and turn up the volume.  You'll feel how much air is being pushed out.  It's like a light breeze coming out of your speakers...MUCH more so than before I installed it.  I shopped it around on the internet and direct from J&M looks like the best deal since everyone seems to be selling it for about the same price and J&M offers free shipping for orders over $30.  Cost was $36.99.  When you put the outer fairing back on, the pad is pretty tight up against the rear of the speaker, so the fact that it comes in 2 pieces, one for each side and none in the middle, works fine.  I would have to say that this would improve the performance of whatever speakers you are using in the fairing.  Here's the link:  http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=FSAP-HDCL&PF=43
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2010, 03:53:56 AM »

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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2010, 07:59:14 AM »

There used to be a product called Dynamat (I think) back when I was younger and was into car stereo.  You put it your car panels to dampen the sound, worked really good and had siginficant improvment on the overall sound.  Good info on the J&M, looks like it will do similar for the bike application.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2010, 08:06:59 AM »

I purchased mine from www.sierra-mc.com here in Ohio.

The only down to it I can see is that the range of my garage door opener seems less.  May cut out a small area areound the opener the next time the fairing is off.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2010, 08:18:17 AM »

Pricey for what it is...cut out foam...it works good though. 
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2010, 09:20:07 AM »

I just installed a hawgwired amp system and Justin at hawgwired suggested dynamat for inside the fairing.  I was instructed to put a 6 inch square piece on the inside of the fairing directly behind the speaker and  1  8 inch square piece right above the headlight. I was able to purchase this material through a local auto restoration and custom paint shop alot of street rodders use it.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2010, 09:30:50 AM »

And I am sure it didnt run 30 bucks!  :D
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2010, 09:53:20 AM »

Actually for what it is I thought it was a little pricey but what isnt for these things  i purchased a 18x36 piece for $35.00
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2010, 10:26:47 AM »

$35 is probably the cheapest upgrade/change we have done.    :-\
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2010, 11:17:44 AM »

$35 is probably the cheapest upgrade/change we have done.    :-\
 

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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2010, 11:45:06 AM »

One the J&M website, they show the pad is included with the new speakers, so if you are upgrading you will get it with the new speakers.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2010, 12:48:07 PM »

One the J&M website, they show the pad is included with the new speakers, so if you are upgrading you will get it with the new speakers.

yes , you get the 'pad' with the kit.  but took more time to peel the backing off than to stick it though.. :confused5:
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2010, 12:52:08 PM »

yes , you get the 'pad' with the kit.  but took more time to peel the backing off than to stick it though.. :confused5:
It took more time peelin the backin off than installin the speakers! :o
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2010, 10:15:31 PM »

It took more time peelin the backin off than installin the speakers! :o
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2010, 11:57:15 PM »

7.25" J&M speakers with the included foam backing, $219.00, w/free shipping from Dr. V-Twin. Worth every penny, YOU WILL LIKE WHAT YOU HEAR!!
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2010, 12:10:37 AM »

It took more time peelin the backin off than installin the speakers! :o

One of my friends warned me about that, and the first piece came right off and I thought he was crazy.  Then the next 5 were a real pain.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2010, 08:15:46 AM »

If I ever get to buy something for under a $100.00 for the bike I am thrilled!!
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2010, 10:10:47 AM »

I installed the foam and 3 way JM speakers last weekend and sounds great.  Biggest difference was did not have to turn the volume up as much to hear speakers. 
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2010, 12:40:00 PM »

I'm familiar with the Dynamat brand of sound deadener.  It's primary purpose is to deaden sheetmetal panels and to insulate the heat from under the car, roof and firewall.  Dynamat is a thinner more dense material, almost like a very thick tar paper that's a bit on the rubbery side.  The stuff a friend of mine used on his streetrod also had a silver foil over the top side, which could hurt garage door openers if it were blocking the direction of the signal.  This would also be counter productive for the use with backer material for speakers.  It would take any rattle out of the fiberglass though.  Maybe they have something new that is not foil covered.

As far as its use in a fairing compared to the foam supplied FREE with the J&M speaker kits, my opinion is that the foam will do more for us in our fairings as sound absorption material than deadening material.  I think it cuts down the out of phase from the rear of the speakers and helps to get more in phase sound out the grills.  It stops the sound from bouncing around inside a fiberglass enclosure.

Dr. V-Twin offered me the option to "upgrade" to the Dynamat, but I stayed with the freebie foam and I'm glad I did.

And for the sticky backer, I was about to give up on getting the paper off to actually stick it in the fairing until I took out a razor blade and cut in the middle of one of the paper peel patches and found out how to peel off the paper.  It sounds simple to just peel that paper off, but once you get the hang of doing it, it is a lot easier.

I am really impressed with the J&M 7.25" upgrade speakers.  (For the money...)  I'm sure that Hawg Wired and Hog Tunes have great products too, but without an extra amp, the $219.95 delivered to your door is not bad.

I had a kick butt system in my Willys streetrod with two amps, Bazooka sub, Infinity speakers and Eclipse head units.  It was awesome to say the least, but there were issues with it while driving.  My exhaust was 3" all the way and with a blown 392" hemi it made lots of noise.  On certain tracks and certain artists, the low frequencies of the exhaust would cancel out my low frequencies of the speakers and it was painfully just some mids and high frequencies getting through to the ears.  Now when I was at a show, it was the bomb.

I'm thinking that in our world, bikes with lots of low frequencies from our mufflers (or lack of them), any sound system we install and try to listen to while driving is going to be taxed to the limit to not get cancelled out by our low frequency exhaust.

Just something to ponder...
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2010, 03:34:49 PM »

One side !
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #20 on: May 18, 2010, 03:35:15 PM »

other side .....
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #21 on: May 18, 2010, 03:47:36 PM »

Just something MORE to ponder...

      Have the J & M amp and  speakers with foam pads.  Washed the SERG after a 425 mile ride up to Bass Lake last Friday.  Picked up a lot of dirt in Sequoia Nat'l. Park. where there is still about 6' of snow.  I always try to minimize water near the instruments or fairing.  After washing, I blew dry the bike as usual and then rode into Oakhurst.  It was warm so no jacket.  While riding, I kept getting a light spray of water on me coming from the bottom outside edges of the fairing.  While it was very nice and cooling, it seems the foam pads retain water and we should be very careful to ride after washing / rain, etc. to avoid mold or whatever may result from water retained inside the fairing. 

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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2010, 08:12:00 PM »

Just something MORE to ponder...

      Have the J & M amp and  speakers with foam pads.  Washed the SERG after a 425 mile ride up to Bass Lake last Friday.  Picked up a lot of dirt in Sequoia Nat'l. Park. where there is still about 6' of snow.  I always try to minimize water near the instruments or fairing.  After washing, I blew dry the bike as usual and then rode into Oakhurst.  It was warm so no jacket.  While riding, I kept getting a light spray of water on me coming from the bottom outside edges of the fairing.  While it was very nice and cooling, it seems the foam pads retain water and we should be very careful to ride after washing / rain, etc. to avoid mold or whatever may result from water retained inside the fairing. 

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I never knew that I was getting any water inside my fairing.  I don't know how it could get in there other than running down the windshield, and if that were the case, I would think I would see some indication of that on top of the radio and amp, etc...where it would drip straight down in...but not making it to the outer fairing and getting the foam wet.  I'm not sure I see how that can happen...at least not if everything is sealed properly when you put it back together.  Any theories on how the water is getting there?
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #23 on: May 19, 2010, 01:29:02 PM »

The outer fairing is not really "sealed" to the inner.  Water can easily get in by the edges of the windscreen and if you spray from the back, it's not sealed at all.  Water can also get in from below....  Even the headlight nacelle is not water proof.....
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #24 on: May 19, 2010, 06:03:33 PM »

Then I guess I'll have to run some bathroom caulking around mine.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2010, 06:50:52 PM »

This foam product sounds (excuse the pun) like a great idea!

Just wondering if it will affect the reception of the Tune Trapper or XM?   :nixweiss:

Anyone have an opinion?
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2010, 08:43:47 PM »

This foam product sounds (excuse the pun) like a great idea!

Just wondering if it will affect the reception of the Tune Trapper or XM?   :nixweiss:

Anyone have an opinion?

I'm not having any problem with XM, and I have the acoustical pad and both hi and lo beams are HID with ballasts.  I just got the XM back a few days ago when they offered me a good deal that will last me through the warm months.  I don't use it much, but I did try it out a few times over the weekend to make sure it was working okay.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2010, 03:30:40 AM »

Thanks for the posts, I bought a set from J&M yeasterday.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2010, 09:57:18 PM »

I lined the inside of the outer and all of the inner fairing that I could with Dynamat. Major difference in sound, more than I expected. No problem with XM reception or Garage door opener. Bought a Dynamat door kit and a loose piece that the shop had left over for $40. Good investment. I looked at the foam from J&M @ Daytona, seemed "cheap" to me, IMHO.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2010, 04:23:08 PM »

I added the J&M foam to mine, HUGE DIFFERENCE!! very happy, I looked at the Dynamat, sent it back I was concerned with the additional weight on fairing brackets, already have Hog Tunes and amp, we know that the inner fairing brackets are an issue anyway, so I felt go with the foam inview of the weight difference between the two. I have had no problems with reception for garage door opener. :bananarock:
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2010, 04:39:05 PM »

I bought and installed mine, I don't notice much of a difference, in fact, I'm disappointed.
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Re: Acoustical pad inside fairing from J&M
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2011, 11:12:47 AM »

  Has any one with the dynamat already installed add the foam padding on top of it?   
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