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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2010, 05:39:09 PM »

Wouldn't it be nice if they spent the money educating cage drivers how to notice an oncoming motorcycle and not pull out in front of it.  Boycot Georgia for now!
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2010, 08:47:41 PM »

http://usridernews.com/2010/10/29/national-highway-traffic-safety-administration-thumbs-nose-at-congress-and-discriminates-against-motorcycles/

Another interesting "tidbit" I found out about recently is that FDOT---The white cars you think are only interested in trucks can chase, stop, radar speed trap and ticket passenger vehicles and motorcycles in any state.

So they can chase you through GA into Florida and still give you a ticket.

Also apparently they have jurisdiction over local and state policing agencies any time it comes into question!!!!  

So we now have another national policing agency along with the FBI, U.S. Marshall's Service and ATF.

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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2010, 09:02:41 PM »

Another interesting "tidbit" I found out about recently is that FDOT---The white cars you think are only interested in trucks can chase, stop, radar speed trap and ticket passenger vechicles and motorcycles in any state.

So they can chase you through GA into Florida and still give out a ticket.

Also apparently they have juristiction over local and state policing agencies any time it comes into question!!!!  

So we now have another national policing agency alingwith the FBI, U.S. Marshall's Service and ATF.

Drve safe!!
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2010, 10:10:37 PM »

Another interesting "tidbit" I found out about recently is that FDOT---The white cars you think are only interested in trucks can chase, stop, radar speed trap and ticket passenger vechicles and motorcycles in any state.

So they can chase you through GA into Florida and still give out a ticket.

Also apparently they have juristiction over local and state policing agencies any time it comes into question!!!!  

So we now have another national policing agency alingwith the FBI, U.S. Marshall's Service and ATF.

Drive safe!!

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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2010, 08:55:45 AM »

Wow, that is pretty crappy.  I like riding in North GA but may stay out of there for a while.
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2010, 09:11:02 AM »

I can't belive that....I mean I do ..but what is the expected outcome?
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2010, 10:05:13 AM »

Here's a portion of an email that was written by a local ABATE officer and forwarded to me.  Seems these road blocks will be set up at MC events.

 Tim,
Thanks for sending this out. I mentioned it at our ROAR Rally last week. We received notice of this from MRF a couple of weeks ago. This should concern us all. NHTSA has been offering these "grants" and it appears they are looking to model what New York did last summer. They set up road blocks outside large public motorcycle gathering events and stop every rider to "check" their safety equipment, gear and insurance and lecture them about riding "safety". They only stop the bikes and never the autos who are running over us! MRF and ABATE encourage you to contact the Sec of Transportation, Ray LaHood ( 202-366-4000) and voice your displeasure at this discrimination. I also encourage you to contact your State Rep and State Sen to demand answers from the Ga State Patrol about their plans for this grant. This should be a close up view of possible discrimination that should motivate all Ga motorcyclist!

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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2010, 10:12:51 AM »

Not just a Georgia problem. AMA has been on to this for a while. Just one more example of prejudice against motorcyclist.
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2010, 10:13:54 AM »

Curious about what safety equipment is required that they'd have to pull you over to verify possession and use of.  States might require helmets, eye protection, even long pants or long sleeves.  Even if gloves and footwear other than sneakers were mandated it's all seen visually without a traffic stop.  As for some "lecture" on anything civil law enforcement has no right to demand I accept such a "service" from them absent a court's order.  Such a stop would be one of the rare times when the OiC had to compete to say as much as I was.
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2010, 10:32:52 AM »

Curious about what safety equipment is required that they'd have to pull you over to verify possession and use of.  States might require helmets, eye protection, even long pants or long sleeves.  Even if gloves and footwear other than sneakers were mandated it's all seen visually without a traffic stop.  As for some "lecture" on anything civil law enforcement has no right to demand I accept such a "service" from them absent a court's order.  Such a stop would be one of the rare times when the OiC had to compete to say as much as I was.

Maybe DOT approved helmets?
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2010, 10:37:23 AM »

Georgia does not specify helmet rating! Just have to be wearing some type of cover!
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2010, 10:46:15 AM »

Maybe DOT approved helmets?
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Had the same thought.  And it would at least be an excuse.  But even that can be a an awfully quick check.  And to my knowledge GA has no DOT requirement. 

It's one of the several states with some variation of the asinine requirement that helmets are required and that approved helmets are listed on some docket of approval maintained by a Board of Public safety.  Except, of course, there never was such a list.  So there's nothing approved.

GA may have updated their statute since then.  But I remember the Alspach case ten years or so ago in which a GA state court ruled the state's helmet law was unenforceable for just that reason (it being in practice too vague.)
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2010, 11:12:11 AM »

Another perfect example of Socialized USA!! We the People are becoming their People!!
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2010, 11:32:48 AM »

Another perfect example of Socialized USA!! We the People are becoming their People!!

Better be careful about making political comments!  The internet police might delete the thread!
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2010, 11:44:16 AM »

Just think, we all bought our machines to enjoy life. Now politics have found us again! Bummer!  :soapbox:
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2010, 01:31:54 PM »

And when they call for a donation .. .they wonder why we'll give them the 1 fingered salute
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2010, 02:23:03 PM »

Better be careful about making political comments!  The internet police might delete the thread!
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2010, 02:27:24 PM »

I feel so safe, knowing that "Big Brother" has my best interest at heart, and is so diligent in trying to keep society safe that they are willing to go the "Extra Mile" and watch my every move...I think I found a video feed in my crapper...yes, that's right, it is the POO POLICE!!! "Sorry sir, your crap is not Georgia safety approved..."

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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2010, 02:35:41 PM »

Curious about what safety equipment is required that they'd have to pull you over to verify possession and use of.  States might require helmets, eye protection, even long pants or long sleeves.  Even if gloves and footwear other than sneakers were mandated it's all seen visually without a traffic stop.  As for some "lecture" on anything civil law enforcement has no right to demand I accept such a "service" from them absent a court's order.  Such a stop would be one of the rare times when the OiC had to compete to say as much as I was.


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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2010, 02:42:56 PM »


SEAT BELTS!!   ;D    ;D     ;D

You laugh but several years ago there was a seat belt moment in Missouri.  At least close enough....

A now retired state Senator was also a physician.  He was also adamantly opposed to any change in state law that would allow riders in Missouri to be without their helmets. 

Each year or so an attempt is made in the state legislature to change the law.  One of the years the law seem to have more traction than most the Senator used the advantages of his seniority to add an amendment requiring seal belt use if a rider chose to ride without a helmet. 
 
It was obviously ka ka.  Everyone knew it.  But it killed the bill that year. 
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2010, 03:21:45 PM »

I got a seat belt ticket. The cop says "you know the old saying: Click it or ticket" I said to him: "That is not an OLD saying" Big brother is watching you...
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2010, 05:47:22 PM »



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That's all the mods I can think of right now.  November politics and the Georgia Patrol (is that a Reba song?).



Life is tough enough without Evil Bastards like you looking to make it tougher Mr Twolanerider

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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2010, 06:30:26 PM »

Another perfect example of Socialized USA!! We the People are becoming their Bitch!!

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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2010, 07:19:56 PM »

Vote them out!!!!!!
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #25 on: November 01, 2010, 07:26:58 PM »

Life is tough enough without Evil Bastards like you looking to make it tougher Mr Twolanerider

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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #26 on: November 01, 2010, 08:10:45 PM »

Had the same thought.  And it would at least be an excuse.  But even that can be a an awfully quick check.  And to my knowledge GA has no DOT requirement. 

It's one of the several states with some variation of the asinine requirement that helmets are required and that approved helmets are listed on some docket of approval maintained by a Board of Public safety.  Except, of course, there never was such a list.  So there's nothing approved.


To my knowledge I believe the above statement to be true unless there have been revisions I am unaware of recently...
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #27 on: November 01, 2010, 10:53:02 PM »

Wow! Thats Georgia State Patrol, Nothing better to do  :nervous:
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #28 on: November 02, 2010, 09:29:26 AM »

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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #29 on: November 02, 2010, 11:46:29 AM »

It's not about enforcement at all, it's about GETTING THE GRANT MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT.  The Georgia Patrol could care less about law enforcement (believe me I know), it's all about revenues and how much money they can get their hands on.  They'll put whatever they have to on the reporting docs to justify the grant, then take the money and run with it.  Not only will they get the grant $$, but think of all the ticket revenue they can/will produce by using the "program" to stop more bikers out there........

With statewide revenues way down and spending still out of control, the Governor of Georgia and just about every municipality and county have mandated that every revenue producing entity across the state ramp up revenues and collections immediately.

So what if it's not the right equipment, here's your ticket now plead your case in court......  9 out of 10 folks will just send in the money rather than take a day to spend in court or hire a lawyer to fight such a small amount..... 

Maybe we'll jumpstart change by collectively sending a strong signal out today by voting.  Both parties suck - how about we form the MotoScoot Party? :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2010, 03:04:04 PM »

Now we know why AJ & Linda moved to Florida!!!

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Re: Georgia State Patrol to target motorcycles
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2010, 03:42:24 PM »

There, fixed it for you :D

I like the improved statement!! :2vrolijk_21:
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