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[tall drink of water]

Put the FulSac on my 2011 SERGU except didn't pay for the tuner. My bike runs just fine and saved about & 475. I was told that the computer has enough memory and bike is running good.

[Midnight Rider]

Put the FulSac on my 2011 SERGU except didn't pay for the tuner. My bike runs just fine and saved about & 475. I was told that the computer has enough memory and bike is running good.

It's not about whether the "computer" (ECM) has "memory" (it doesn't in the traditional computer lingo way), but whether the standard, stock MAP can adapt to changes to the intake/exhaust flow via the input from the narrow band O2 sensors in the header pipes.  What you have stock in the ECM is a MAP that is already on the ragged edge of being too lean (read: extremely hot running engine).  Even if the ECM can adapt to some changes, it still makes the air/fuel ratio very, very lean because it's always going to try and get the A/F to the stock configuration.

If you only change the baffles in the stock mufflers, and do nothing to the head pipe, it can probably cope with the change.  But, IMO, if you change the header to another type/brand, OR you remove the Cat in the stock header and then put it back on, the bike needs more fuel, and the only way to do that is to change the MAP in the ECM, or fool it into thinking it's running too lean, so it adds more fuel.

[Robmay]

A.....nevermind....

[tazmun]

This thread is for 2012 CVO's correct? Am I missing something? Never mind!

[Rooster452]

Isn't 2012 suppose to be the end?

[RedDevil]

Isn't 2012 suppose to be the end?

End of what? 

[Harley Guy 5]

All this talk about the 2012 water cooled engine making me 

[Harley Guy 5]

Found this.
Harley Davidson notoriously nostalgic has 108 years of practice of producing air-cooled engine and has decided to launch 2012 models with water-cooled engines. Thanks to certification documents leaked by California Air Resources Board and EPA, all 2012 models of Harley Davidson will be equipped with radiator. One of the representatives of the company suggested that these water cooled engines will generate 35 percent more horsepower and will run considerably cooler as compared to previous models launched by Harley Davidson. The side mounted radiators manufactured by Denso in Japan are built for Harley Davidson application.

Harley Davidson is an American motorcycle manufacturing company which was found in the first decade of 20th century in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It is one of the major motorcycle manufacturers in the market that survived the Great Depression period. The motorcycles manufactured and launched by the company come with unique exhaust note and design. The company was found by Davidson brothers such as Arthur, William and Walter along with William S. Harley developed and designed engines and motorcycles in their family shed. The principal subsidiaries of the company are Holiday Rambler Corporation; Utilmaster Corporation; Creative Dimensions; B&B Molders and Nappanee Wood Prod

[aero8]

 
Will there be a 2012 CVO Road King.??

Maybe for 2012 there will be no FLHXSE3 but again a CVO Dyna?

What about a CVO-VROD in a Dresser outfit and a bigger engine to suit a heavier Touring bike.

The lineup for 2012 is maybe a CVO Dyna,  a CVO Road King,  a CVO Softtail and a FLHTCUSE7 ??

What do you think are possible new features on the Touring bikes??

Aero8

[RedDevil]

Will there be a 2012 CVO Road King.??

Maybe for 2012 there will be no FLHXSE3 but again a CVO Dyna?

What about a CVO-VROD in a Dresser outfit and a bigger engine to suit a heavier Touring bike.

The lineup for 2012 is maybe a CVO Dyna,  a CVO Road King,  a CVO Softtail and a FLHTCUSE7 ??

What do you think are possible new features on the Touring bikes??

Aero8

I'm thinking they might do the second year on the SERGU, it's been selling pretty well; definitely another SEUC (that's their cash cow); probably another SESG (selling extremely well, at or above SEUC rate); and a soft tail of some sort. JMO...

[SBB]

Found this.
Harley Davidson notoriously nostalgic has 108 years of practice of producing air-cooled engine and has decided to launch 2012 models with water-cooled engines. Thanks to certification documents leaked by California Air Resources Board and EPA, all 2012 models of Harley Davidson will be equipped with radiator. One of the representatives of the company suggested that these water cooled engines will generate 35 percent more horsepower and will run considerably cooler as compared to previous models launched by Harley Davidson. The side mounted radiators manufactured by Denso in Japan are built for Harley Davidson application.

Harley Davidson is an American motorcycle manufacturing company which was found in the first decade of 20th century in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It is one of the major motorcycle manufacturers in the market that survived the Great Depression period. The motorcycles manufactured and launched by the company come with unique exhaust note and design. The company was found by Davidson brothers such as Arthur, William and Walter along with William S. Harley developed and designed engines and motorcycles in their family shed. The principal subsidiaries of the company are Holiday Rambler Corporation; Utilmaster Corporation; Creative Dimensions; B&B Molders and Nappanee Wood Prod

"Found this."
Found this where?
Today is not April Fools day.

 

SBB

[miker]

When do the CARB emission sheets come out?

[nidan]

we'll find out in July what's Real and what's BS

[Midnight Rider]

I'm thinking they might do the second year on the SERGU, it's been selling pretty well; definitely another SEUC (that's their cash cow); probably another SESG (selling extremely well, at or above SEUC rate); and a soft tail of some sort. JMO...

Agree with you, Charlie...another year on the SERGU, and there's no way that they are going to stop the SEUC.

I don't think it would be a CVO first go around, but at some point in time they really need to produce a factory bagger, or a "Sport Tourer" using the Revolution engine as a base, bumped up some in CC's, larger frame, etc.  It would be good competition for the Beemers, Yamahas, Hondas, and Kawasakis.  It may not sell to the die hard HD crowd, but it might get the attention of the 30-40 year olds who are tired of the crotch rockets and looking for something more comfortable for distance riding.

[bbrown]

we'll find out in July what's Real and what's BS

Soon