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[Dan_Lockwood]

I've read all the threads on the SE compensator and I'm not really sure what goes bad in the old style.

I'm familiar with the "old" style on my '76 FLH shovelhead. It has the Bellville spring package and the three finger ramps.  I put in a new one for my rebuild about 5 years ago just because the inner splined shaft was getting wider in the splines and I just thought after 30 years it was due.

Now on my '09 SERG, can I actually abuse my compensator in some way that I'm not aware of?  I don't do burn outs or pop wheelies.

So how does the standard compensator wear out and why is the SE better?

Just wondering...

[Keats]

After 22K miles, mine is done

[Dan_Lockwood]

After 22K miles, mine is done

It's done, but what wore it out and "what" wore out?

I forgot to say thanks for replying to my thread...

[Keats]

It's done, but what wore it out and "what" wore out?

I forgot to say thanks for replying to my thread...

They tell me that the torque of the motor tore it apart.

Not sure I buy that, but what are they going to say?

The stock part is a piece of crap..........

higher compression and early timing does take it's toll.

think of it as a rubber disk, once the limits have been exceeded it tears apart

[smkymtnboy]

 >:(makes you irritated.,but at least they make a better one,i hope

[lv2ride56]

Anybody tried the new compensator by BDL yet?

http://www.beltdrives.com/chcomp.html

[muddypaws]

All I know is that after they put in the new compensator the bike starts perfect every time. I was told the stock one was too weak and allowed the bike to kick back during starting. I did not see the old one after they removed it.

[rheiner]

Anybody tried the new compensator by BDL yet?

http://www.beltdrives.com/chcomp.html

If it's only the sprocket I don't see how it's an improvement over the SE compensator. I haven't heard of sprocket failures.

[lv2ride56]

If it's only the sprocket I don't see how it's an improvement over the SE compensator. I haven't heard of sprocket failures.

It says COMPENSATOR!!

[grc]

It says COMPENSATOR!!

It says compensator sprocket, actually.  I'd like to see both sides and the guts of that thing to see if it really has a shock absorbing mechanism built in, or if it's just a heavy duty sprocket.  Can't tell from that web site, as there are no details at all.


Jerry

[miker]

Mine came with broke springs in the assy from the factory.

9k miles and 4 "its normal" "we have no guidance from the factory" dealer visits before I repaired it...
Oy and I wasted that 17hun of an extendo W to boot...Stupid is as stupid does I guess. 

[lv2ride56]

It says compensator sprocket, actually.  I'd like to see both sides and the guts of that thing to see if it really has a shock absorbing mechanism built in, or if it's just a heavy duty sprocket.  Can't tell from that web site, as there are no details at all.

http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-new-stuff/60245-new-type-compensator-bdl.html

Wondering how it could provide much cushion.

[Keats]

The drive spline is totally disconnected from the sprocket. You could think of it as a clutch that does not open, but will slip.

[grc]

http://www.harley-davidson-hangout.com/forum/hdrcgb-new-stuff/60245-new-type-compensator-bdl.html

Wondering how it could provide much cushion.

I imagine it doesn't, since it only relies on the compressability of those two teflon washers to provide relative movement of the output shaft of the crank to the primary chain.  Doesn't say they are special wave washers that would act as springs, so I'd be real interested to see just how much travel is really available, and how resilient those washers will be over time.  And the idea of two threaded parts constantly rubbing back and forth under load doesn't conjure up images of high mileage reliability.  


Jerry

Oh yeah, if it was really all that great why would they sell it for less than the stock parts? 

[Dan_Lockwood]

I appreciate all the input and the information on the new compensator from BDL, but I was really wondering how a person could damage the stock 110" CVO compensator, not the new SE compensator.

What would be an abusive application of the bike that would cause problems to the compensator itself?  I know that doing wheelies, or anything that would produce shock loads "might" be an issue, but I would have to think that the MOCO had some of this abuse in mind when designing the stock 110" CVO compensator.  Maybe just starting our bikes is more of a pulse shock that the compensator just cannot handle.

I know how a person could fry a clutch, burn up brake pads, but how does one tear up a compensator?  Maybe it's just a design flaw. 

There are probably two schools of thought on this.  The first is that there are a lot of "good" stock 110" CVO compensators out there, including the one on my bike.  Second, if they were so good, what prompted the SE compensator?

Just thinking out loud, so to speak...