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2012 FLTRXSE
« on: July 17, 2011, 12:48:47 PM »

CA EPA application lists a 2012 CVO Road Glide Custom...to me, that means they drop the ultra treatment and go back to the 09 SERG hot rod style but whats with the "custom" designation?  Isn't a CVO (Custom Vehicle Operations) a custom? WTFO?

Is it going to be a FLTRSE4 or do we need to start a FLTRXSE board? :nixweiss:

Whatever it is, I hope they put the Screamin' Eagle back on it!



See the application yourselves at

 http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2012/harleydavidson_m0050177_1688-1802_0d5_hn.pdf

The entire list below

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2012/2012.php
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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2011, 02:05:22 PM »

Beemer, the "Custom" in this case is just one of the standard model distinctions Harley uses.  Electraglide Standard, Electraglide Custom, Electraglide Ultra Classic,  Road King, Road King Custom, Roadglide, Roadglide Custom, etc.  They've been using those model names for a long time, and it doesn't have anything to do with being a real custom or a CVO.

It appears that the 2012 Roadglide Custom is a lowered and stripped down/sportier version (you can see a photo on the Harley site but full details aren't up yet).  So if the CVO version is based on the RG Custom, you can probably assume that the king tourpak will be gone and the bike will have a sportier style than the 2011 RG Ultra CVO.  Maybe more like a Street Glide version of a Roadglide. :nixweiss:

Full details should be up on the Harley site in a few more days.


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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2011, 03:08:25 PM »

Beemer, the "Custom" in this case is just one of the standard model distinctions Harley uses.  Electraglide Standard, Electraglide Custom, Electraglide Ultra Classic,  Road King, Road King Custom, Roadglide, Roadglide Custom, etc.  They've been using those model names for a long time, and it doesn't have anything to do with being a real custom or a CVO.

Jerry, I beg to differ...the only bikes listed as Customs are the standard Road Glide Custom, Super Glide Custom and Sportster Custom.

None of these bikes are CVOs and none of the other CVOs have Custom in their name either...hence my curiosity.
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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2011, 04:15:29 PM »

Jerry, I beg to differ...the only bikes listed as Customs are the standard Road Glide Custom, Super Glide Custom and Sportster Custom.

None of these bikes are CVOs and none of the other CVOs have Custom in their name either...hence my curiosity.

Maybe only a few of this years models carry that designation, but if you look back over time Harley has used the "Custom" name on a ton of bikes to differentiate within the families.  You'll also see names like "Standard" or "Deluxe" or "Classic" appended to the main model names. 2011's SE Road Glide has Ultra in it's name, because it's based on the RG Ultra, so why would it seem strange to name a CVO based on the Road Glide Custom the SE Road Glide Custom?

BTW, to answer a question from your original post (Isn't a CVO (Custom Vehicle Operations) a custom?), a CVO is not a true custom bike.  True customs don't come in production runs numbering in the thousands, and they don't roll off production lines.  Kind of like all those cars and trucks with "Limited" badges on the back aren't really low volume "limited availability" vehicles.  It's just a name; it's called marketing. 

Think of a CVO as an upscale option package with a bunch of stuff from the accessory catalog as well as somewhat distinctive paint.  Even the paint isn't what I'd call custom; the numbered paint sets Harley sells in the catalog are much more exclusive than a CVO paint job.  One out of a hundred, or one of several thousand.  Which would you call "custom"?


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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2011, 04:20:50 PM »

It's simple, it will be a CVO based on the Road Glide Custom. I would guess it will be more like the '09 CVO RG than the '11.
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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2011, 07:19:23 PM »

Hope it as cool as the 09's were.
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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2011, 08:48:37 PM »

It's simple, it will be a CVO based on the Road Glide Custom. I would guess it will be more like the '09 CVO RG than the '11.
I sure hope you are correct on this.  I want a new CVO road glide, but not an ultra
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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2011, 01:22:35 AM »

I sure hope you are correct on this.  I want a new CVO road glide, but not an ultra


And here's the paint scheme:
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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2011, 02:17:15 AM »

Looking at that application, there's no confusion, it's identified as a "CVO Road Glide Custom" with an 1802 CC engine (AKA "110").  That's a SE RG. 

They also identified a "Road Glide Custom and a "Road Glide Ultra", both with 1688 CC engine (AKA "103").

Looking at the other applications, looks like all the heavys are 103s or 110.  No more 96s except Dynas or Softtails.
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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2011, 06:53:41 AM »

Wow...the paint scheme looks sweet!  But alas, no eagle :(  And what's with the skulls :nixweiss:
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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2011, 07:03:44 AM »

I like the looks of that. The paint scheme looks great. I don't even think I miss the eagle. I wonder what colors will be offered.
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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2011, 07:26:53 AM »

Wow...the paint scheme looks sweet!  But alas, no eagle :(  And what's with the skulls :nixweiss:
And the new 'Screamin' Skull' is born.  :oops: har.  spyder
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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2011, 08:30:01 AM »

Looking at that application, there's no confusion, it's identified as a "CVO Road Glide Custom" with an 1802 CC engine (AKA "110").  That's a SE RG. 

They also identified a "Road Glide Custom and a "Road Glide Ultra", both with 1688 CC engine (AKA "103").

Looking at the other applications, looks like all the heavys are 103s or 110.  No more 96s except Dynas or Softtails.

Actually, the TC 96 is only on the Dyna for 2012.  The Softail and Touring models all have the TC 103 as the standard engine, and the CVO 110 as an "upgrade" for the CVO's.

BTW, for those who missed it the official model designation for the 2012 SERGC is FLTRXSE.


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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2011, 09:14:32 AM »

Woohoo...they got ride of that worthless air temp gauge!  :orange:

I wonder what gauge they got rid of on the other side?  :nixweiss:
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Re: 2012 FLTRSE4?
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2011, 11:16:35 AM »

Also looks like they trimmed/streamlined the front fender as well to better fit the 19" wheel.  I love the graphics on this bike...it flows nicely from the front fender all the way back and with the bottom of all the tin black along with the gloss black engine, it should be quite a stunner in person.

I sure hope they have a Orange/Black version :2vrolijk_21:
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