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[billt1]

Placed a deposit today for 2012 FLTRXSE . Asked for white and black but might take the blue one if it comes in first.

[DesertHOG]

Placed a deposit today for 2012 FLTRXSE . Asked for white and black but might take the blue one if it comes in first.

Congratulations, I know you'll LOVE IT!!

[Buy early]

I'm seeing some custom oriented individual ghosting in a screamin' eagle on the white portion of that fairing. Maybe in a pearlescent  white or a really really light grey. That could look cool. All that white space looks like a canvas crying out for individual expression to me.

[FLSTFI Dave]

Placed a deposit today for 2012 FLTRXSE . Asked for white and black but might take the blue one if it comes in first.

My deposit is on a white/black which is coming first, 20 august or so.  However if it does not pop as much as I think I can move my deposit to blue.  I just must see the white first, I think it will be the best looking but with white you just have to see it in person to decide.

[spydglide]

I'm seeing some custom oriented individual ghosting in a screamin' eagle on the white portion of that fairing. Maybe in a pearlescent  white or a really really light grey. That could look cool. All that white space looks like a canvas crying out for individual expression to me.

You mean more skulls....ghosted in?  har.  spyder

[JR]

Maybe only a few of this years models carry that designation, but if you look back over time Harley has used the "Custom" name on a ton of bikes to differentiate within the families.  You'll also see names like "Standard" or "Deluxe" or "Classic" appended to the main model names. 2011's SE Road Glide has Ultra in it's name, because it's based on the RG Ultra, so why would it seem strange to name a CVO based on the Road Glide Custom the SE Road Glide Custom?

BTW, to answer a question from your original post (Isn't a CVO (Custom Vehicle Operations) a custom?) , a CVO is not a true custom bike.  True customs don't come in production runs numbering in the thousands, and they don't roll off production lines.  Kind of like all those cars and trucks with "Limited" badges on the back aren't really low volume "limited availability" vehicles.  It's just a name; it's called marketing. 

Think of a CVO as an upscale option package with a bunch of stuff from the accessory catalog as well as somewhat distinctive paint.  Even the paint isn't what I'd call custom; the numbered paint sets Harley sells in the catalog are much more exclusive than a CVO paint job.  One out of a hundred, or one of several thousand.  Which would you call "custom"?


Jerry

Jerry, I was at the factory in York in July and noticed everything said Vehicle Operations. During the tour I asked why it isn't Custom Vehicle Operations any more??? She said in 2008 they went to a line production so it no longer is Custom. I didn't know that. I still thought CVO bikes were built by one or two people like when mine was built.

[Buy early]

You mean more skulls....ghosted in?   har.  spyder

if they're a skull kinda person, that could work as well. It's just all that white space makes me want to put something there. I am not skilled at utilizing negative space.

[Twolanerider]

Jerry, I was at the factory in York in July and noticed everything said Vehicle Operations. During the tour I asked why it isn't Custom Vehicle Operations any more??? She said in 2008 they went to a line production so it no longer is Custom. I didn't know that. I still thought CVO bikes were built by one or two people like when mine was built.

Vehicle Operations and Custom Vehicle Operations were never the same thing.  Vehicle Operations is the assembly plant and systems.  CVO was always the step kid in the old building out behind (until it got merged with the main line.

[skippy]

Vehicle Operations and Custom Vehicle Operations were never the same thing.  Vehicle Operations is the assembly plant and systems.  CVO was always the step kid in the old building out behind (until it got merged with the main line.
         Was in York in a few weeks ago and out tour guide made the comment to me that the MOCO thinks the quality will be improved by merging the CVO line into the standard production line.....  Time will tell....

[RedDevil]

Vehicle Operations and Custom Vehicle Operations were never the same thing.  Vehicle Operations is the assembly plant and systems.  CVO was always the step kid in the old building out behind (until it got merged with the main line.
         Was in York in a few weeks ago and out tour guide made the comment to me that the MOCO thinks the quality will be improved by merging the CVO line into the standard production line.....  Time will tell....

I personally think there have been more problems since they moved the CVOs out on to the main production line.  QC has definitely gone down since the move.  

[FLSTFI Dave]

Jerry, I was at the factory in York in July and noticed everything said Vehicle Operations. During the tour I asked why it isn't Custom Vehicle Operations any more??? She said in 2008 they went to a line production so it no longer is Custom. I didn't know that. I still thought CVO bikes were built by one or two people like when mine was built.

Strange, in 2009 I toured York, the regular line and the CVO line which was off to the left in the old building.  That is where they were building the 09 SERG and the SEUC.  Two people building each bike.

I have heard that in 2010 they were moved to regular production but I do not know for sure.

[JR]

Vehicle Operations and Custom Vehicle Operations were never the same thing.  Vehicle Operations is the assembly plant and systems.  CVO was always the step kid in the old building out behind (until it got merged with the main line.

 

[JR]

Strange, in 2009 I toured York, the regular line and the CVO line which was off to the left in the old building.  That is where they were building the 09 SERG and the SEUC.  Two people building each bike.

I have heard that in 2010 they were moved to regular production but I do not know for sure.

Since we were there in July, the 2012's were in production and we couldn't see them since they weren't out yet. She did say it was 2008 that they started building them on the line...

[FLSTFI Dave]

Since we were there in July, the 2012's were in production and we couldn't see them since they weren't out yet. She did say it was 2008 that they started building them on the line...

Strange, but I know that it was May of 2009 when I toured the CVO line in the old building, it was after I got my 2009 CVO.  I also believe a group from this site made a tour of the  CVO line in 2009.  You had to have at least ten people and special approval or permission back then ahead of time.