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[RJ749]

I have tried to get my mechanic at EMF here in Morgan Hill to join, but seems he's hesitant. Has a problem with all the opinions here. Isn't that what all this is about? Am I missing something here? I thought the greatness on this website was that we CAN agree to dis-agree. Oh well. I gave him another card, and told him to just join, and don't give his opinion. I think he'd be an asset to this site, and additionally he owns a '05 CVO. [highlight]Any ideas as to how to intice this man to join?[/highlight] He's a walth of knowledge. Mark, if you are reading this...J-O-I-N N-O-W !
You will join... you are getting sleepy... wake up! and JOIN!NH [smiley=drink.gif]

I agree that any additional knowledge or new member is an asset to the site, but look at how many have signed up and don't post or ever log in again.....or even lurk.

If he isn't into it, no point in begging.  If a guy doesn't see any value in being here you most likely won't intice him IMHO.

[Buffy]

Personally, I'll run the Mobil in all three holes, and would be equally happy with Amsoil.

[size=16]Hey TC,

Mobil 1 or Amsoil question?  

What type and weights is each hole?[/size][/b]

[Midnight Rider]

The petroleum engineer that has helped me so much with this topic recommends Mobil 1 VTWIN in all three holes.  It's available at some Autozones, Advanced Auto, and other bike stores.  Wal Mart might even have it.  He says, backed up b actual analysis on trannys, engines, and primary samples, that it is highly recommended for all three.  He says most of the big rigs you see on the hiways are running Mobil 1, or some other good synthetic like Amsoil, in their transmissions.  On straight cut gears, like in a HD, he says there is no advantage to running a gear lube....all it does is rob the engine of horsepower from churning that thick oil, and the protection is no better, and in most cases not as good.  I changed to Mobil 1 10 W 40 MT4X (motorcycle oil) in my Ducati and noticed a DRAMATIC improvement in oil temp, shifting ease, and overall performance of the engine...It makes more power, just as he claimed it would.

The Mobil VTWIN oil was developed by one of their Sr. Chemical Engineers (old dude) who had 17 bikes, most of them HD or other vtwins...he had a blank check during development and came up with the best possible syn for the V's.  The trannyu is bound to stir up some chit here, but I'm just telling you what I have experienced in a high HP, high torque twin, though it's not a v-twin, but an L (Ducati).  Mobil 1 VTWIN is going in my SEUC at the 1K service without hesitation.  The thick tranny lubes will protect, but from their research, you get the same protection for the V sys oil, without having to churn butter in the case.  You ever tried to stir 70W140?  It's like molasses...bound to rob HP, but provides no better film protection, or wear characteristics, as has been proven by their analysis.

That's my opinion

[Midnight Rider]

Oh yea, Buffy...the Mobil VTWIN is 20w50.  He also said the Amsoil is an excellent product, as is Motul.  The prior owner of my duck was running Shell "syn"....like I said, a dramatic improvement when I changed, within 50 miles of riding, and it keeps getting better, particularly the shifting ease...same straight cut gears in the Duc tranny, it's just all in one sump.

I'll also be using the K&N oil filters from this point forward.

[Buffy]

[size=16]OK gang, one more thing please............ [smiley=oops.gif]

I have drained the tranny twice, filled it up with new oil, ran it up and down the road and it still comes out gray.  Not as bad as before, but definitely not black!

Does anyone have any ideas as to how to remove the rest of water that is left in the tranny?[smiley=nixweiss.gif]

I am open to any suggestions!  [/size]

[arcticdude]

You'll need to get it quite hot for an extended period of time.  I'm sure if you make it to one of the rally's several of us would "help" you get that tranny quite warm and keep it that way for at least a couple of hours to burn off the water!!!

[Buffy]

You'll need to get it quite hot for an extended period of time.  I'm sure if you make it to one of the rally's several of us would "help" you get that tranny quite warm and keep it that way for at least a couple of hours to burn off the water!!!

[size=20]HA!  I bet you would!   [smiley=banana.gif]

I'll try running it for a while keeping track of the "foam" factor.  Thanks for the hint! [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif][/size]
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[Buffy]

The petroleum engineer that has helped me so much with this topic recommends Mobil 1 VTWIN in all three holes.  It's available at some Autozones, Advanced Auto, and other bike stores.  Wal Mart might even have it.  He says, backed up b actual analysis on trannys, engines, and primary samples, that it is highly recommended for all three.  He says most of the big rigs you see on the hiways are running Mobil 1, or some other good synthetic like Amsoil, in their transmissions.  On straight cut gears, like in a HD, he says there is no advantage to running a gear lube....all it does is rob the engine of horsepower from churning that thick oil, and the protection is no better, and in most cases not as good.  I changed to Mobil 1 10 W 40 MT4X (motorcycle oil) in my Ducati and noticed a DRAMATIC improvement in oil temp, shifting ease, and overall performance of the engine...It makes more power, just as he claimed it would.

The Mobil VTWIN oil was developed by one of their Sr. Chemical Engineers (old dude) who had 17 bikes, most of them HD or other vtwins...he had a blank check during development and came up with the best possible syn for the V's.  The trannyu is bound to stir up some chit here, but I'm just telling you what I have experienced in a high HP, high torque twin, though it's not a v-twin, but an L (Ducati).  Mobil 1 VTWIN is going in my SEUC at the 1K service without hesitation.  The thick tranny lubes will protect, but from their research, you get the same protection for the V sys oil, without having to churn butter in the case.  You ever tried to stir 70W140?  It's like molasses...bound to rob HP, but provides no better film protection, or wear characteristics, as has been proven by their analysis.

That's my opinion

[size=20]TC, great info and explanation!

Thank you so much.  Sounds like Mobil 1 V-Twin is in my future![/size][/color]

[Midnight Rider]

Buffy...you're welcome bro....there are differing opinions on this subject, particularly regarding the transmission oil.  I'm just going with what a guy I really trust is saying is best for my bikes, and he's got a bad case of OCD. This dude gets off on people sending him oil samples from their bikes so he can see what's in it!!  Just heard from him today, and he says they're about to release an oil filter for bikes (not sure which ones yet, but a lot of them have the same size oil filters) that's gonna blow everything else away!!  We'll see...I asked him a lot of questions about bypass settings and size of particles captured...as soon as I know something, I'll post it.

Articdude is right, I think...the only way to get that water completely out is to take several 500 mile runs, so get in the saddle!!    Seriously, it probably took a while for that moisture to collect, particularly making a lot of relatively short runs, with a lot of heating up and cooling off of the tranny.  You'll just have to find a way to make it to MV this October so we can help you get it out of there!!!  We all thought you were going to be the bike wash dude anyway!!  

[Buffy]

Buffy...you're welcome bro....there are differing opinions on this subject, particularly regarding the transmission oil.  I'm just going with what a guy I really trust is saying is best for my bikes, and he's got a bad case of OCD. This dude gets off on people sending him oil samples from their bikes so he can see what's in it!!  Just heard from him today, and he says they're about to release an oil filter for bikes (not sure which ones yet, but a lot of them have the same size oil filters) that's gonna blow everything else away!!  We'll see...I asked him a lot of questions about bypass settings and size of particles captured...as soon as I know something, I'll post it.

Articdude is right, I think...the only way to get that water completely out is to take several 500 mile runs, so get in the saddle!!    Seriously, it probably took a while for that moisture to collect, particularly making a lot of relatively short runs, with a lot of heating up and cooling off of the tranny.  You'll just have to find a way to make it to MV this October so we can help you get it out of there!!!  We all thought you were going to be the bike wash dude anyway!!  

[size=20]Thanks again TC!  I found out the problem.  Somehow, the tranny vent hose got knocked loose, so everytime that I washed it (which is a LOT!) water would find its way in.  I'll continue to ride it and drain it for a few weeks until it's back to normal.

Sorry that I won't make Maggie Valley, but work schedules have interferred.  But I'll be thinking of you all!

Ride safe![/size][/b]

[Midnight Rider]

Glad you found the problem Buffy!!!   [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]  Yea, that OCD cleaning we all seem to be afflicted with would put a lot of water in there.  A couple of changes should do the trick...maybe take a nice run to get everything good and hot/churned up, then come home and immediately drain.  Use your leftover syn 3...

Too bad about the Valley...we'll miss ya!! Sounds like we all need to be thinking about The Calgary Stampede for next year!! [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]