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[Turkish]

the proof will not be enough until it happens to them, which I hope it doesnt. Heck I rode 6-8 hours round trip, no problems, rode to work all week, no problems, did not take the bags off once as I planned on doing a major cleaning during the weekend, then the day before the weekend it fell off.

zip ties for me once i get a new bag!

[Lever]

this has  nothing to do with religion  or the supernatural

[Henrycm]

this has  nothing to do with religion  or the supernatural

Not literally, but then again how many of us have gremlin bells on our bikes!

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[Jasray]

Lever,

Then lets look at it from a historical point of view.  How many times in the past has the MoCo had design problems that it absolutely refused to admit to, until they finally fessed up.  Just the problems with paint and engine issues alone is phenomenal for a 100+ year old company.  I personally never had any of those issues (I was lucky), but I wouldn't dream of being so self assured of my own experiences that I would tell someone who was experiencing those problems that it was all their fault.  The paint problems were real, the engine problems were real, this bag problem is real.

I am very happy that you have not had this unfortunate experience, but there are just too many incidents, I have spoken to far to many dealers, and even the conversations I had with the MoCo, all lead me to believe that there is a design flaw lurking in the shadows.  As a practical point, Harley is very clever about taking something that works on one bike and carrying that innovation to other models as it rolls out new products.  Have you seen this specific quick release system expanded to any other bikes?  Why would that be?

[grc]

Lever,

Then lets look at it from a historical point of view.  How many times in the past has the MoCo had design problems that it absolutely refused to admit to, until they finally fessed up.  Just the problems with paint and engine issues alone is phenomenal for a 100+ year old company.  I personally never had any of those issues (I was lucky), but I wouldn't dream of being so self assured of my own experiences that I would tell someone who was experiencing those problems that it was all their fault.  The paint problems were real, the engine problems were real, this bag problem is real.

I am very happy that you have not had this unfortunate experience, but there are just too many incidents, I have spoken to far to many dealers, and even the conversations I had with the MoCo, all lead me to believe that there is a design flaw lurking in the shadows.  As a practical point, Harley is very clever about taking something that works on one bike and carrying that innovation to other models as it rolls out new products.  Have you seen this specific quick release system expanded to any other bikes?  Why would that be?

EXACTLY.  If you look at what they offer in the catalog you will not find the mounting system they use on the Convertible.  I have no idea why they thought they needed to change the system from what they've been selling for Softails for years.  I also haven't heard of any issues with those other designs having bags falling off riding down the highway.  So yes, there is no doubt there is a design issue.  And yes, Harley is famous for trying to blame customers for Harley mistakes.  And yes, if people just meekly accept the BS from Harley rather than fight, Harley will never fess up and make it right.  I wonder how many people so far have been given the BS story and had to pay for a replacement bag out of pocket.


Jerry

[Lever]

the reason why you havn't seen this specific quick release system expanded to any other bikes? 
cause there is only 1 convertible model   the reason the convertible was designed  is it 2 bikes in one  ...in less then 2Min's. you can change a bagger bike to a Friday nite  boulevard cruiser  that was the big selling point on the convertible model's 

[TxDrifter]

A similar system does exist on the Dyna Switchback.  The only difference between the two is the lower support arm does not exist on the Switchback.  Some of us think that is the flaw in the Convertible design.  When the suspension is compressed by a large amount it is left uncompensated for in that support arm, subsequently putting pressure between the support arm contact point and the contact points for the support pins.

[sjr]

TxDrifter, That makes the most sense to me. I have never had that problem personally, but it seems possible.
If you were to hit a big enough bump with the rear wheel, perhaps the lower bracket is actually pushing the upper bracket to the rear and dislodging the bag.
If that is the case, it sounds like a recall should be announced to replace or update the lower bracket.

Just my humble opinion.

[TxDrifter]

The one time it happened to me was hitting a series of bad potholes in the road with my wife as passenger.  The last one I couldn't avoid and it hit hard. It slammed so far that I have a chip in the paint of the upper arm where the chrome trim from the fender hit it. 

[Jasray]

X2, lost mine on a hard bump from pothole

[Lever]

OK folks  not sure how a pot hole affects the bags   the swingarm  moves  not the fender where the upper mounts for bags and the lower mount doesn't move either  it comes off the passenger peg mount ...take your bag off stand back  and look for yourself   better yet  pushed down on your bike  and you will see  the swingarm moves only not the bag mounts

[Henrycm]

That's what I was thinking, Lever

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[Blackhawk]

With HD taking it off the Breakout, maybe it simply wasn't worth the hassle.  However, reading this post, I do check, at least twice, any time I take off with the bags on, that they are mounted correctly and pin showing. 

While I was going to post this picture for a different reason (text up top), I was looking at it and noticed I didn't have the bag on correctly (or if I did it moved).  This was before I was reading this thread, so I hope to NOT have a repeat.

Not sure HD will come out with a recall, but with the item no longer on new bikes, doubt there will be a mechanical change any time soon.  I will be sure not to bring the topic up at the bar, as I too think it is like religion or politics, everyone at least knows what the topic is now and choose their course to follow.

Still love the bike, and the fact that I can strip it down or put it all back together faster then tying my boots.

[Porschestan]

Yep, I agree!

[Jasray]

X3 on still Love the bike.  It looks like that is the one thing we can all agree on.