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[timo482]

the baker has 6th gear 1-1 much like the cruise drive - it comes with a larger compensator sprocket to make 1st the same as it was

a trans is always most efficient at 1-1 ratio

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[Cvostu]

To sum it up,   SMOOTH!!

[Shovelhead]

Bakers rule !
 

[Resurecton]

I'm thinking of replacing the 5-speed transmission on my new (to me) 2005 FLHTCSE2.  The engine/transmission setup is barely has 20k miles, so I'm not fixing a problem, just thinking of upgrading from 5-speed to 6-speed.  I have available to me a 6-speed HD gearset from an 07 Bagger, Street Glide, I think.  In nice shape.  The number on the piece that holds both shafts, ( I don't know what it is properly called) is 35053-06.  The number below it is a little difficult but appears 1PE15383.

 I would sure be pleased if I could just swap out the one for the other.  How close am I to being able to do that?

[Chains]

Found this on ebay , guy in Arizona has other 6 speeds and 5 speeds as well.  The guys here will have to tell you of this one would work as I dont know.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291333454788?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[Twolanerider]

I'm thinking of replacing the 5-speed transmission on my new (to me) 2005 FLHTCSE2.  The engine/transmission setup is barely has 20k miles, so I'm not fixing a problem, just thinking of upgrading from 5-speed to 6-speed.  I have available to me a 6-speed HD gearset from an 07 Bagger, Street Glide, I think.  In nice shape.  The number on the piece that holds both shafts, ( I don't know what it is properly called) is 35053-06.  The number below it is a little difficult but appears 1PE15383.

 I would sure be pleased if I could just swap out the one for the other.  How close am I to being able to do that?

Tranny parts from the 07 won't fit your 2005.  The newer original equipment six speeds aren't interchangeable with the prior stock five speeds.

[Resurecton]

I sure appreciate the directness and clarity of your response.  Thank you.  Better news would have been nice....... but it is what it is.

Is Baker the way to go, then, or is there something else to consider?

[Chains]

Here is a used Jim's 6 speed from a 2000 Ultra, there again maybe Twolane or one of the guys could shed light on figment and or quality of a Jim's tranny.  This guy has a ton of trannies.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5001-2000-00-01-Harley-Touring-Ultra-Jims-6-Speed-Overdrive-Transmission-/311226995788?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item487693144c

[Twolanerider]

Here is a used Jim's 6 speed from a 2000 Ultra, there again maybe Twolane or one of the guys could shed light on figment and or quality of a Jim's tranny.  This guy has a ton of trannies.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5001-2000-00-01-Harley-Touring-Ultra-Jims-6-Speed-Overdrive-Transmission-/311226995788?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item487693144c

Still no joy.  99-01 are different also.  Different diameter pivot shaft for the swingarm connection and the primary bolt pattern changed from the later bikes.  For the 05 the fitment from other touring models will be 2002-2006.  There are kits out there that suggest interchange from 1990-2006 but that is internals only.  Even they suggest they are a (mostly) direct replacement up through 1999 and that some "minor modifications" are necessary on the later bikes within their fitment matrix.

[Twolanerider]

Is Baker the way to go, then, or is there something else to consider?

If you're certain you've decided to make the change there are lesser expensive kits you'll find if you look.  Personally I'd not recommend them.  In the admittedly small sample size I've seen them used I've seen a failure rate higher than I'm comfortable with.  The HD 6 speed kits are another option as are the Baker kits.  Either have offered gear kits or complete transmissions. 

Having installed both in 04 and 05 SEEGs my first question would be why you're considering this?  The gearing on these bikes actually matches up pretty well for highway speeds (unlike, for example, the early SERGs that left you noticeably and uncomfortably higher RPM at highway speed).  If the engine on your 05 has been touched up such that its torque curve is higher and/or appreciably longer I could understand wanting to make the six speed change.  Aside from that, however, the gearing matches the torque curve of the 103 pretty well right out of the box.  And for Willie's sake don't buy in to any notion of fuel economy improvements or other ancillary reasons for spending all the money it'll take to put in a six speed.  That equation will never work out in your favor and there is no (zero, nada, zilch) economic justification for making the change.  It's solely to improve the ride-ability of the machine.

The other justification, of course, is separate from the bike or its ride-ability.  There is always the "just because I want to, dammit."  That one never makes any sense for the wallet but has its own justifications... 

[ltank]

I was going to get a Baker Direct Drive 6 speed gearset.  I talked to baker and they told be the gearset would not be warranties
with 120HP / 125TQ. They recommend the Over Drive gearset.
I have  Rivera Primo O.D. gearset. With over 50,000 miles and no problems.  A friend of mine has over 125,000 miles on his with two motor rebuilds but no problems on transmission

[ltank]

The Indy bike shop I deal with has seen S.E. and Baker gearset
fail. I have seen the damage to both gearsets. The Rivera gearset is a lot more beffy gears. He has not had to warranty any of there's yet. Flash was impressed with it over the others. It's the only one he recommends to High HP Harley

[Twolanerider]

The Indy bike shop I deal with has seen S.E. and Baker gearset
fail. I have seen the damage to both gearsets. The Rivera gearset is a lot more beffy gears. He has not had to warranty any of there's yet. Flash was impressed with it over the others. It's the only one he recommends to High HP Harley

I've seen failures in the Baker and SE gear kits also.  In the SE kits behind mid to larger built engines often enough to make me uncomfortable anymore.  Just not as bad as the cheap off shore kits.  Not sure I've ever had the Rivera branded kit in hand though.  Probably need to see one up close and personal to recognize it.

[Yellow09SERG]

The Indy bike shop I deal with has seen S.E. and Baker gearset
fail. I have seen the damage to both gearsets. The Rivera gearset is a lot more beffy gears. He has not had to warranty any of there's yet. Flash was impressed with it over the others. It's the only one he recommends to High HP Harley

I installed a DD6 in a new 06 Street Glide with a built 103. Took about 6000 mile and lost 6th gear. Dealer pulled tranny called Baker and they had a new one a couple days later. Don't know how many miles are on that tranny now, but when I parted with the bike it was a little over 60,000 and was the best money I spent on that bike. Own a 09 now and run the DD7. Been very please with Baker and would recommend both trannys.

[Ironhorse]

Jim S. (HD-Dude) did my Baker 6 speed and I couldn't be any happier. Sometimes I still forget I have 6 speeds, especially on the freeways. Then I up shift and smile.