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[Twolanerider]

I have contacted my bank as the money from paypal was drawn on my VISA and reported is as fraud, i have also sent email to the Branson police investigator, police officer or not i will take this as far as possible because he is a thief and a liar  
It maybe a civil mater if i lived in the USA but i live in Australia and this is Internet Fraud, i will use the full extent of the law whatever it takes what ever it costs to get justice and stop him doing it again

If the charge was made to a Visa credit card you've got that as a potential and even likely solution.  Just have the credit card company do a chargeback.  It's out of Paypal's hands at that point. 

For what it's worth it'll still end up costing the seller.  If your credit card handler charges back against Paypal Paypal will then charge back against the seller.  Been there and done that.

[LovemyCVOgirl]

You hang in there Nick  This guy is a thief and you take it as far as you can to get your refund. 

[2018_FLTRXSE]

I'm confused... is the owner Kyle or Frank.... ??

He claims he sold it for more.. yet he sayd this in the ad:

Price is set at $19,000 and I will not deal in trading or drop price. Good luck and happy bidding!

So Nick bid 19200 and then he was told someone offered $21200... I call bullchit.

[Nick_au]

Thanks,

Its not just the refund thats the issue its the fact that he thinks he can cheat someone and get away with it so its principle now ,even if/when i get my money back i still want to have him prosecuted for fraud.
 

[LovemyCVOgirl]

Thanks,

Its not just the refund thats the issue its the fact that he thinks he can cheat someone and get away with it so its principle now ,even if/when i get my money back i still want to have him prosecuted for fraud.
 

Good luck and if I can help you out, just give me a shout 

[CVOStreetglide]

Well as it was stated earlier, WE have a GREAT group here and we look out for each other.

It's nice to know that the infinite wealth of knowledge we collectively have can be put to productive use and resolve issues like this.

I am honored to contribute  a very small part.

[2018_FLTRXSE]

Thanks,

Its not just the refund thats the issue its the fact that he thinks he can cheat someone and get away with it so its principle now ,even if/when i get my money back i still want to have him prosecuted for fraud.
 

I think the fact he is using his police leverage to play is disturbing.

[Nick_au]

Kyle owns the Cvo, his brother officer frank owns the eBay account and my deposit

[wolverine]

This sounds like it needs to be reported to the U.S. FBI internet fraud division. Maybe internet inter-continental fraud is a crime they would be interested in hearing about.

[Nick_au]

I have sent an email to the Investigations Captain at the Branson MO PD ... surprise no reply
I have save sent email's to his local newspapers ... no reply
I also filled out the form for internet crimes on  http://www.ic3.gov , no reply from there either as yet
The good news is Visa reversed the transaction to paypal, paypal have since limited my account and have phoned the seller and are "building a case" to fight against the reversal. Funny how paypal are not interested in reading our email where he says he is selling it for more else where and in another where i have asked for my deposit back (on phone and email) he says he would refund it then says "it wont let him do it that way since the money is withdrawn ... maybe he can send it some other way"

Almost a year ago i  bought a blue FLSTSE from a gentleman in Farmington NM and everything worked out great we still keep in contact. Its people like Officer H that that makes you want to never trade with anyone abroad and being a police officer makes it all the more shameful

[Puzzled]

I would think Visa trumps Paypal everytime. 

[Twolanerider]

I would think Visa trumps Paypal everytime. 

And if Paypal gets pissy about being cost the price of the chargeback the worst they can do is close your paypal account.  So you use a different email address and a different funding credit card and make a new one. 

[Nick_au]

Yes i may have to open a new one, that one has $80 in it and it says i cant withdraw or send money only get paid and i cant close it
Its crap how they can defend this thief and are not interested in what the facts/proof is

[Twolanerider]

Yes i may have to open a new one, that one has $80 in it and it says i cant withdraw or send money only get paid and i cant close it
Its crap how they can defend this thief and are not interested in what the facts/proof is

Don't let people pay you at that account anymore.  What's in there they will very likely eventually keep in their attempt to recover what the credit card company charged back against them.  Needed to clear your Paypal account before doing the chargeback.  Definitely don't let any other deposits go to that address/account.

[Nick_au]

Thanks, set up a new one few minutes ago so no more deposits to that account
Thanks again