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4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« on: February 26, 2012, 12:59:08 AM »

Well, I got my 4 point docking hardware, backrest and pad, assembled the docking hardware on the bike to spec, and then tried the backrest.

It doesnt fit.. the backrest bracket is too narrow.

Tried my backrest on my wife's Road King, no issues.

I initially thought the powercoating was too thick, so I shaved it off at the mating points retried it... same thing... rechecked everything... everything seems right.

Got my tourpak rack from my  '09.. will try that tomorrow.. anyone else got ideas?
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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2012, 01:18:00 AM »

I think I understand your problem.  The way the backrest fits is a bit deceiving.  It does not fit on the same attachment points as the tour pack.  It attaches farther forward.  The front attach points of the backrest attach it to the top of the shock towers.  Once you do that, the rest is easy.

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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2012, 01:51:48 AM »

I think I understand your problem.  The way the backrest fits is a bit deceiving.  It does not fit on the same attachment points as the tour pack.  It attaches farther forward.  The front attach points of the backrest attach it to the top of the shock towers.  Once you do that, the rest is easy.

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Greg,

I had an 09 FLTRSE3 that I had both tour pak and the original backrest , or neither at my choice. On that bike I had no issues other than the backrest was a little snug sliding into the docks.

The backrest uses the shock mounts for forward mounting location and the outer location of the forward docking point as the two docking points.

The two-up tour pak rack uses the inner front mount of the docking hardware and the rearmost docking point.

What I found when I finally took the tour pak rack outside to test fit was that the tour pak sat on the docks with no issues.

This led me to look closer at the forward mount on the docking hardware.

The inner spacer is too wide... by how much I have yet to determine... going to take it apart and measure... the problem is I dont know how wide its supposed to be!
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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2012, 02:39:53 AM »


The spacer (Part number 6946) measures at .550"

Does anyone have one they can measure for width or does someone have access to the correct dimensions for the spacer?
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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2012, 10:48:34 AM »

Sorry,  I forgot about your '09.     :nixweiss:
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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2012, 02:22:18 PM »

Sorry,  I forgot about your '09.     :nixweiss:

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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2012, 08:10:31 PM »

Im having the same issues with my shorty and 4 point, it fits really tight 2!!
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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 09:34:45 PM »

Im having the same issues with my shorty and 4 point, it fits really tight 2!!


I cant even get this one on with the stock metal spacers.

@ 0.550" they are too big, and dont allow the backrest docking points inboard far enough.

I found a pair of 0.750" OD spacers that were 0.400" wide, drilled the holes out to .400 (wound up being closer to 0.409)

Gonna try to fit them on now and see how it goes.... BRB
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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 11:37:07 PM »

I cant even get this one on with the stock metal spacers.

@ 0.550" they are too big, and dont allow the backrest docking points inboard far enough.

I found a pair of 0.750" OD spacers that were 0.400" wide, drilled the holes out to .400 (wound up being closer to 0.409)

Gonna try to fit them on now and see how it goes.... BRB

ok... 0.400" is too narrow.

I found some leftover plastic bushings from a softail detatchable backrest kit. The ones I used were 0.080" (only ones I had a pair of) Making the total width 0.480" ; Thats still too wide, but very close. I can get it to lock down with a little effort and the tour pak still fits...

I think 0.450" is the correct with, but it just started storming here.. I'm done for the night....
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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2012, 11:55:26 PM »

let me know how you finally get her fixed, pix would be great:-)
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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2012, 12:06:51 AM »

let me know how you finally get her fixed, pix would be great:-)

In a short nutshell the inboad spacers on the front docking point (The shiny chrome ones) are too wide.. you would need to shave them down to the width needed for your bike....

I'm almost certain that 0.450" is pretty close to being right... that means the spacers provided in the kit are too wide... trying to get confirmation on the thickness from HD and when I do will post up the correct dimensions for part number 6946 (spacer) for reference....
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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2012, 04:06:16 PM »

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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2012, 04:22:40 PM »

My question would be, why isn't Harley addressing this issue?  Instead of you trying to make it fit why aren't they?  It's their equipment isn't it?  Just curious..
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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2012, 04:44:53 PM »

My question would be, why isn't Harley addressing this issue?  Instead of you trying to make it fit why aren't they?  It's their equipment isn't it?  Just curious..


I have the dealership parts guys checking on the engineered dimensions for this... however, in the meantime you think I should just sit and twiddle my thumbs?

IMHO, the same set I bought for my '09 did not have this issue.. it was snug, but not uninstallable tight like this was.

The backrest for my new bike fits the wifes bike, the only difference being one is PC'd black. That bike has the 2 point kit.

Does anyone else have this kit with no fitment issues that can measure the width of #2 in the drawings with a caliper?





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Re: 4 point docking hardware and backrest, tourpak issues
« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2012, 05:38:49 PM »

Just asking the question. Thought thats what forums were for, share information, tips, issues, solutions etc.. maybe asking the question of what Harley was doing about it was a bit much.  I ask because my bike will be shipped on the 14th and I will be adding some of the same accessories and want to know so I don't run into the same problem. Good Luck.
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