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[HUBBARD]

BL's court date for the DUI in NC, is scheduled for Oct. 5, 2006.  Innocent, until proven guilty, 'member?  Like I said, this is real sad.  A person is only dealt so many breaks.  I know all of mine have been dealt, as far as DUI, and DWI are concerned.  Apparently, so has BL's.  One DUI, may be considered by some as just bad luck.  TWO DUI's?  You've got a problem with alcohol.  Statistics support when you are caught DUI, you have already driven 300 times buzzed, or impaired.  I feel sorry for the family of the deceased, in that they can do nothing to change their loved one's present, and permanent state.  Billy Lane has options.  I hope he chooses the right one.  That's the cold, hard truth of the matter.  Later--HUBBARD      

[Twolanerider]

BL's court date for the DUI in NC, is scheduled for Oct. 5, 2006.

[Nasty Habit]

Been gone for awhile. I am being a caretaker to my dad-in-law. WWII vet, and one of the original, very first, "frogmen" (the pre-curssors to the Navy's Seals). Great guy. Dying from throat cancer. He is existing in bed with a tube to his stomach for eating, and a traechomoty in his throat to breath. 1/2 jaw and 1/2 tongue are gone, and cancer still exists within. I get to feeling sorry for myself because some of my "plans" to ride before an upcoming surgery for myself are now canceled. My wife or I must always be here, and we own our own business. Then I come on board here to see what my friends are up to, only to find the Billy Lane tradgedy. Man, oh man. There but for the grace of God go I... I cannot add anything to what my brothers have already said. I see riders all the time cross double yellow lines. Many even insist on treating a solid white line like it has spaces in it. Its solid for a reason...The entire situation is tragic. Drugs make people stuipd, period. I pray each and every one of us to be safe. Thank you...
NH

[cuthbertss]

Nasty:

Sorry to hear about your Dad...  you are doing something that i didnt get a chance to do for mine...  I can't even beging to tell you how much I miss mine.  Sounds like your dad is a true american hero! Thoughts and prayers headed your way

Scot

[naitram]

Red, you heard anymore about this?

[RedFXR2]

This from September 17

[naitram]

whatever they charge him with i hope it doesnt become a long drawn out thing

i was listening to the news to day and the owners of "the station" night club that burned to the ground and killed 100 people inside over 3 1/2 years ago just got a slap on the wrist sentence in a plea bargin to avoid a trial. the families are pissed that after all this time and promises of harsh sentences one of the owners wont even see jail time

[RedFXR2]

Depending on who you talk to down here, the time waiting time for the blood test results either means the fix is in, and Lane's lawyers are getting him off the hook, or the authorities are going to throw the book at him and want to make sure the test results are absolutely irrefutable before moving ahead with charges.

[Edit to add]  I wonder (just wondering) if all this will come into play on October 5, when he's due in court in NC on DUI charges up there?  Legally, does this event have any relevance to that one, even though it happened after that violation?  Certainly, in the court of public opinion, folks could get over the NC DUI a lot easier if this hadn't happened.

[BK]

I cannot believe it takes this long for the blood work.

[RedFXR2]

I cannot believe it takes this long for the blood work.

Normally, I would say the same thing, but some of the Law Enforcement guys here have explained how lengthy the process can be, so I just chalk it up to beaurocracy, and the need for proper legal process if the results are to be admissable as evidence, which is the whole point of doing the test.

[SPIDERMAN]

Depending on who you talk to down here, the time waiting time for the blood test results either means the fix is in, and Lane's lawyers are getting him off the hook, or the authorities are going to throw the book at him and want to make sure the test results are absolutely irrefutable before moving ahead with charges.

[[highlight]Edit to add]  I wonder (just wondering) if all this will come into play on October 5, when he's due in court in NC on DUI charges up there?  Legally, does this event have any relevance to that one, even though it happened after that violation?  Certainly, in the court of public opinion, folks could get over the NC DUI a lot easier if this hadn't happened.

[/highlight]

The answer to this is NO. Until he is actually charged and convicted in the most recent incident, this is inadmissable and any mention of it would cause a mistrial. Even after he is charged, tried and convicted of the Florida incident, the rules of evidence are extremely narrow on bringing up prior offenses. Having said all that, Billy Lane needs to go to prison for awhile and when he gets out, he needs to be on very narrow parole with randon drug/alcohol testing and zero tolerance. Our society has no place for people who put their own sense of enjoyment above the right to life of others. As to the court of public opinion, hate to say that my sense of Billy is that he couldn't care less what folks think of him. I imagine at the moment and probably in this order, Billy's feelings are of regret that he screwed up, remorse at the loss of life he caused and dismay over his bleak future. The more I read of the deceased, the more I stop and think, what a shame for him and his family. What a damn shame.

Big B

[SCRM-R]

The answer to this is NO. Until he is actually charged and convicted in the most recent incident, this is inadmissable and any mention of it would cause a mistrial. Even after he is charged, tried and convicted of the Florida incident, the rules of evidence are extremely narrow on bringing up prior offenses. Having said all that, Billy Lane needs to go to prison for awhile and when he gets out, he needs to be on very narrow parole with randon drug/alcohol testing and zero tolerance. [highlight]Our society has no place for people who put their own sense of enjoyment above the right to life of others.[/highlight] As to the court of public opinion, hate to say that my sense of Billy is that he couldn't care less what folks think of him. I imagine at the moment and probably in this order, Billy's feelings are of regret that he screwed up, remorse at the loss of life he caused and dismay over his bleak future. The more I read of the deceased, the more I stop and think, what a shame for him and his family. What a damn shame.
Big B

Well said Spiderman...VERY well said...

[BLM777]

Normally, I would say the same thing, but some of the Law Enforcement guys here have explained how lengthy the process [highlight]can be[/highlight], so I just chalk it up to beaurocracy, and the need for proper legal process if the results are to be admissable as evidence, which is the whole point of doing the test.

"Can be" is the operative phrase in my opinion.  From a factual basis, DUI blood tests as a NORMAL course of prosecution ARE NOT handled exclusively by the state crime lab.  In an overwhelming majority of  the cases the sample is taken with the arresting officer present and delivered to a local diagnostic center  by the officer or a designated health professional pre-qualified to maintain the chain of custody as well as provide the testimony regarding the examination that may be required at the time of trial.  Giving the arresting officer the benefit of the doubt in this situation, I would guess that he (she) assumed that Lane was "lawyered up" before the truck quit rolling and attempted to overkill the process.  Clearly, the blood was taken at the hospital that Lane was brought to following the accident and the very simple BA test should have been completed within minutes as it is everyday in most every jurisdiction.  IMHO it's just poor taste and procedure to force the victims family to endure an additional period of suffering without knowing if the responsibility for the loss is going to be addressed.

[BLM777]

Depending on who you talk to down here, the time waiting time for the blood test results either means the fix is in, and Lane's lawyers are getting him off the hook, or the authorities are going to throw the book at him and want to make sure the test results are absolutely irrefutable before moving ahead with charges.

[Edit to add]

[cuthbertss]

"Can be" is the operative phrase in my opinion.