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07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« on: September 11, 2006, 03:31:46 PM »

Just picked up an 07 SE Ultra Classic.  All is well except for the unimpressive exhaust sound......

I can't seem to get any straight answers from the dealer about how to change out the mufflers for LOUDER and DEEPER tones from the exhaust.  I have been told Screamin Eagle won't be offering upgraded mufflers and less restrictive air cleaner system.

I love the big motor and would like to do a "stage 1" type upgrade (mufflers and air cleaner) and tune it with a race tuner kit so the rev limiter won't kick in at 5500 RPM.  Does anyone know if the aftermarket muffler guys have or plan to offer the four inch touring muffler that does not sound like a Honda sewing machine?
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2006, 07:28:47 PM »

Welcome 07 Screamin to the site.  Harley is out of the loud/performance mufflers as you have found out.  Many on this site have changed to V&H Ovals, S&S SPO mufflers (both slip ons), 2-1 pipes/mufflers, and true duals with mufflers.  Do a search under this heading and you can read alot of about what others have done.  Get your air cleaner, SERT, and be done.
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2006, 07:59:59 PM »

I spoke to Supertrapp/Kerker who makes (made) the Screamin Eagle Pro Performance slip-on p/n 65115-98B.  Supertrapp also has a slip-on p/n 128-65115.  They confirm that this is indeed the same muffler and they are still offering it.  May be an option since the moco decided to get out of the non street legal mufflers.
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2006, 08:06:31 PM »

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I spoke to Supertrapp/Kerker who makes (made) the Screamin Eagle Pro Performance slip-on p/n 65115-98B.
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2006, 08:25:09 PM »

Bubs is working on the Rinehart True Duals for the 110.  Suppose to be ready in November for $899.00.  I've used these pipes on two other bikes.  Well worth the money!
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2006, 08:31:09 PM »

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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2006, 08:31:23 PM »

Welcome to the party, No one is really very happy with anything are they? Enjoy getting it just right and follow your money [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2006, 08:41:14 PM »

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But Ultra...they don't have Screamin' Eagle written on them, so they can't be as fast... ;)

Good to know they're still making them though, as the billet end caps do make them sound better that the other version that's one piece, IMO.
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2006, 09:00:10 PM »

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.....And, of course, you are right - the billet end caps do make them sound soooooo much better. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]
Does the MoCo still offer the end caps, and I wonder if they would fit on the SuperTrapp mufflers? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] I noticed on that web page that they have different end caps you can use for their mufflers.

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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2006, 07:19:34 PM »

MOCO does still make the end caps and I am pretty sure they will fit the Supertrappe/Kerker. I know for sure they use to.
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2006, 10:20:52 PM »

I did like my father......

We thought Hmmmm....there is a SE Breather.....So therefore must be some minute amount of fuel management for slips...

I bought Wild Pigs (Down Slash)....bolted right on...(Sound Great)....Changed out saddlebag mounts to the same on the SERK and SE Electra....and badaboom....sound.

I have been 150 miles and have pulled the plugs 3 times....they look better than the stock ones....No lights....No Problems...

Dont worry...between the mountain ride, plus Maggie Valley, I will have more miles in the next couple weeks....

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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2006, 02:56:10 PM »

I asked my dealer about mufflers also. The Service Mgr. said to wait a while and some of the fiberglass will burn out and it will change the sound. I did like the sound and look (from the rear) of the mufflers on my 2005 SE classic. The 103 cu ran real strong, but, this 110 is amazing. I love this bike !!!!
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2006, 05:40:33 PM »

I was going to wait and get the Rheinhart  2 into one. That they should have in November. I contacted Harley and they have no plans at the moment to make a high flow air cleaner for the 2007 SEUC. So I'm starting to look around for a hf aircleaner. Anybody know of one for this bike (2007 SEUC 110ci)
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2006, 06:01:04 PM »

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I asked my dealer about mufflers also. The Service Mgr. said to [highlight]wait a while and some of the fiberglass will burn out [/highlight]and it will change the sound. I did like the sound and look (from the rear) of the mufflers on my 2005 SE classic. The 103 cu ran real strong, but, this 110 is amazing. I love this bike !!!!

Tom,

Thats what all that black crap was blowing out of my exhaust the other night in my garage. I was letting it idle for a friend to dee how sick it sounded and i happened to notice some flakes hit the floor behind the main muffler, then as i was watching a pile of it spluged out onto the concrete. You could write your name on the cement with it.  ;D
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2006, 06:13:38 PM »

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I did like my father......

We thought Hmmmm....there is a SE Breather.....So therefore must be some minute amount of fuel management for slips...

I bought Wild Pigs (Down Slash)....bolted right on...(Sound Great)....Changed out saddlebag mounts to the same on the SERK and SE Electra....and badaboom....sound.

I have been 150 miles and have pulled the plugs 3 times....they look better than the stock ones....No lights....No Problems...

Dont worry...between the mountain ride, plus Maggie Valley, I will have more miles in the next couple weeks....

Steve


So Steve.........MV is over.... how about an updated report on the performance of those Wild Pigs??
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2006, 10:04:53 PM »

Well - test went bad -

Not because of the plugs or the pipes...but the bike.

After the B/O Se Ultra died while on my Anniversary trip, HD Bought it back and I ended up with the blue.  Honestly, all of them are growing on me presently....

Before the bike died, I had about 500 miles with the Wild Pigs.....Plugs looked like the stock plugs....

Now I did buy a SERT, and am awaiting to decide pipes I want....I like Dads ovals, but dont want to copy...

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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2006, 08:25:59 AM »

Steve,

what happened? Your new bike dies too? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2006, 12:30:49 PM »

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. . .2007 SEUC. So I'm starting to look around for a hf aircleaner. Anybody know of one for this bike (2007 SEUC 110ci)

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I've got the Ness Big Sucker, chrome of course, #18-507. Bolts right up, fits perfect & has a high quality K&N filter that will accept the stock cover. I wouldn't give ya a nickle for the HD SE breather! JMO. As far as pipes - purely a personal choice (performance,sound, shape, look, etc)
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2006, 03:13:09 PM »

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I've got the Ness Big Sucker, chrome of course, #18-507. Bolts right up, fits perfect & has a high quality K&N filter that will accept the stock cover. I wouldn't give ya a nickle for the HD SE breather! JMO. As far as pipes - purely a personal choice (performance,sound, shape, look, etc)
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JT,

  I have the Ness Big Sucker also. Fit and quality is perfect.

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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2006, 12:13:43 AM »

 :) I tollk my mufflers apart and changed out the muffler and left in the converter, great sound now. [smiley=jalapeno.gif] [smiley=banana.gif]
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2006, 09:11:09 AM »

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:) I tollk my mufflers apart and changed out the muffler and left in the converter, great sound now. [smiley=jalapeno.gif] [smiley=banana.gif]


So you "changed" or did you "remove" the muffler?
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2006, 10:52:51 AM »

What do you mean by convertor?  I thought that the 2007s had the convertor removed by HD and it was replaced with the oxygen sensors????

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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2006, 01:06:42 PM »

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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2006, 04:44:22 PM »

CERDO, WHAT DO YOU MEAN. CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW YOU TOOK YOUR MUFFLERS APART. I AM CONFUSED. THANKS GOTHOG
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2006, 07:56:58 PM »

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Definately! I took mine off today and replaced them with V&H Ovals and they were slap full of the stuff!!
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2006, 10:38:44 PM »

"jt,
I've got the Ness Big Sucker, chrome of course, #18-507. Bolts right up, fits perfect & has a high quality K&N filter that will accept the stock cover. I wouldn't give ya a nickle for the HD SE breather! JMO. As far as pipes - purely a personal choice (performance,sound, shape, look, etc)
hd "

Hey thanks I'll get the Ness Big Sucker as soon as they get some more in stock. Now I'm interested in what it takes to tear the muffler apart and what was in there that he pulled out?
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2006, 10:44:03 PM »

Is it a good idea to add more air (Big sucker) without adjusting the fuel as well?
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2006, 09:31:50 AM »

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Is it a good idea to add more air (Big sucker) without adjusting the fuel as well?

No. I wouldn't recommend it. These 110's are already lean. Changing out the AC & exhaust without modifying the A/F ratio will certainly create an even greater lean condition. At the least do the SERT with map 84. I've had the SERT on my last three injected HD's with no prob's but now that the 110's have the O2 sensors I'm going with the Zippers T-Max & closed loop with the wide band sensors. (waiting in line with a "pre-order" number, their vendor, etc. . . ) HD sensors may compensate (a little) but I'm not willing to run the risk. Besides, I'd like to take full advantage of the adjustability/tunability of an engineered system rather than building from a generic base map. I'll still dyno later w/the sniffer just to allay my anxities and to do any final tweaking.
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2006, 09:37:41 AM »

Well I could hardly sleep thinking about tearing apart the stock mufflers. Took the mufflers all the way off the bike took off the heat shield to get to the screws for the end cap.Took off the end cap. Turns out the plate and tube are welded. I did a search on this forum and it says ya can pull the plate and tube to get a better sound. To do so looks like ya really need to be good with a grinder to remove the welds, and then good luck getting it all out without damaging the exhaust.

 Think I'll pass on this one and go with aftermarket....
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #29 on: October 20, 2006, 09:48:45 AM »

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Well I could hardly sleep thinking about tearing apart the stock mufflers . . . . Think I'll pass on this one and go with aftermarket....

IMO - good decision. Either a set of true duals, or a good two into one pipe with high quality mufflers will accomplish the objective most effectively combined with a high quality AC. These 110's are just too congested AND you always have the unmodified stock junk to which to revert if a warranty issue should arise that you just cannot get around. Again = JMO.
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #30 on: October 20, 2006, 11:28:48 AM »

After taking the muffler off and back on I decided to go with the Vance and Hines Ovals. I like the ease of being able to go back to stock if need be. 8-)
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #31 on: October 20, 2006, 01:10:44 PM »

I saved my SE performance slip fit mufflers (not street legal) with billet end caps from my last Ultra and installed on 07 Ultra SE.  Sound great, plugs look about the same as they did running stock, no noticeable power loss.  Plan on installing Big Sucker and SERT soon.
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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2006, 11:56:54 AM »

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Re: 07 Screamin Eagle Ultra 110 CID
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2006, 10:59:44 PM »

If I load map 84 and for some reason need to go back to stock is that possible? Rev limit set to 6200 ok? With the Sert can you adjust the A/F lower across the band? Just learning how to use this Sert. Got a few more days before the parts arrive..... :)
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