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[MikeV]

+1 for the Wards Parts Werks fans. I just did a 400 mile weekend ride and some of that was in typical NYC choke point traffic getting in and out of the city. I normally dread that part of the ride as the ConV heats up quickly in summertime stop and go traffic. Once that starts parade mode is not enough to keep it cool and you either have to stop or start splitting lanes to keep the bike moving. Well these fans made an incredible difference - the bike has not gone into parade mode since the install. I chose the chrome version and they look great. I had planned on adding an oil cooler as well but with the way the bike ran with the fans, it's just not needed anymore.

Jason has engineered a great product and worth a second look if your ride has the typical 110 heat issues and you haven't done anything yet to address it yet.

MikeV

[Lever]

hey Charlie ...had to reschedule apt due to rain  so it will be this  Wednesday the 19th till I can post pics and get all the info for ya

[Charlie]

hey Charlie ...had to reschedule apt due to rain  so it will be this  Wednesday the 19th till I can post pics and get all the info for ya

Hey Lever,
No worries, thanks for your efforts,

[Lever]

Oil filter housing pic

[Charlie]

Oil filter housing pic

Come on Lever! you can do better than that with a camera! 

[Lever]

yea i know charlie forgot camera...takin with  cell phone ... let me try again this week

[Charlie]

yea i know charlie forgot camera...takin with  cell phone ... let me try again this week

Cheers Lever 

[prstaples1911]

I am having the oil cooler installed Saturday.  I am told the model that mounts between the down tubes (model number 26157-07 ) is being discontinued.   Most likely due to ABS becoming standard on Softails next year.  That is my guess.  I wanted to confirm that others installed this model with success.  Also, the clutch cable looks like it will be routed directly behind the cooler.  I am concerned that the heat from the cooler will harm the fluid in the line.  Any experience with that from someone who had the oil cooler installed this way.

Thanks,

Paul

[Lever]

I have it on my bike no problems

[RCFlyer]

If you have about 5 beers the picture comes in clearly.  Seriously, I have an HD cooler and it works quite well.  I'm in upstate NY and the temperatures have been in the upper 80's.  My bike still runs cool.  I don't think my oil temperature has ever gone over 235. I know it's not as hot as other places, but I did notice a difference after installing it.  Also a richer fuel mixture helps keep the engine temperature down.

[05Train]

I'll dissent. 

The Mothership sells the same bike, with the same ECM programming, with the same warranty, in Alaska as it does in Arizona.  If it came with a cooler, it needs it.  If it didn't, it doesn't.  If you add power, it probably does.  Run synthetic oil, which is more resistant to thermal breakdown, change it every 5,000 miles, and don't worry about it. 

FWIW, an oil cooler is still acting as a heat exchanger, though not as efficiently, when you're not moving. 


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[Mr. Warlock]

I'll dissent. 

The Mothership sells the same bike, with the same ECM programming, with the same warranty, in Alaska as it does in Arizona.  If it came with a cooler, it needs it.  If it didn't, it doesn't.  If you add power, it probably does.  Run synthetic oil, which is more resistant to thermal breakdown, change it every 5,000 miles, and don't worry about it. 

FWIW, an oil cooler is still acting as a heat exchanger, though not as efficiently, when you're not moving. 


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I'll disagree with this one. ALL 110's should have an oil cooler - period. Many buyers don't want to change everything to lower temps or add performance, they just want to ride. All the touring 110's have an oil cooler and the softails with the same motor don't. The added weight of the touring bikes, imo, does not justify the softails getting screwed out of the cooler. The math only adds up correctly at HD corporate.

[05Train]

I'll disagree with this one. ALL 110's should have an oil cooler - period. Many buyers don't want to change everything to lower temps or add performance, they just want to ride. All the touring 110's have an oil cooler and the softails with the same motor don't. The added weight of the touring bikes, imo, does not justify the softails getting screwed out of the cooler. The math only adds up correctly at HD corporate.

Can you document engine damage to CVO Softails due to a lack of a cooler?  If not, what do you base your "should" on?  The company that builds and warrants that engine disagrees with you.

Not that the MoCo is without fault, just saying that they have a hefty financial stake in not paying out warranty claims.

[Jasray]

Agree with Warlock on this one, the bike should have a cooler.  I love my bike but would never take as firm a stand as 05train defending MoCo engineering.
Fortunately they get most things right, but they have certainly missed a few steps through the years.

JB

[05Train]

I hate that it sounds like I'm defending the MoCo, but the fact remains that these engines were designed to be air cooled.  90% of the "heat" threads you read are people who expect their bike motor to act like their car motor.  They aren't the same.

There are several companies who make a pile of money scaring riders into obsessing about engine and oil temperature.  Good for them, I guess.  But with all the various Harley forums out there, when was the last time anyone posted anything about their motor failing due to heat?   In almost 10 years of reading, I've never heard of a single one. 

For me, I'll just ride the bike and change the oil every 5,000 miles.  I've done UOA, and without fail, every report shows that I could have gone longer with no negative effects.   

But if someone is dead-set on adding a cooler to a stock bike, then more power to them.  It certainly won't hurt anything as long as the oil gets up to operating temperature. 

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