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[Fired00d]

Firedood, some thoughts about a GPS;  I really like having the ability to "see" where I am in raltion to the terrain......  Good luck on your decision, and let us know what you decide to do. [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]

Thanks for the info. I'm for sure will not be mounting it to the fairing. It will be the handlebar clamp or the clutch bracket. I couldn't bring myself to put holes in the fairing. [smiley=nervous.gif] Wanted to see the clutch bracket mount to see if that was less noticeable when GPS not mounted, and to see if it would be in the way when mounted. Either way hopefully this will happen before next riding season. I'm going to be out of commission for several months (hip replacement) after the first of year so hopefully the prices will have come down some, and more feedback will be available.

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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[Midnight Rider]

Thanks for the info. I'm for sure will not be mounting it to the fairing. It will be the handlebar clamp or the clutch bracket. I couldn't bring myself to put holes in the fairing. [smiley=nervous.gif] Wanted to see the clutch bracket mount to see if that was less noticeable when GPS not mounted, and to see if it would be in the way when mounted. Either way hopefully this will happen before next riding season. I'm going to be out of commission for several months (hip replacement) after the first of year so hopefully the prices will have come down some, and more feedback will be available.

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Aww, d00d...you can't keep a good man down!!  You'll get that new part installed and be up and Zumo'ing around by first good weather in early spring  8-)  Meanwhile, if you need anyone to keep that  [smiley=pumpkin.gif] limbered up, just let us know, buddy [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]  Just think of how much progress you can make towards that 5K post goal while you're recovering, and you'll have all your CVO brothers and sisters pulling for you, so there's no doubt about the results.  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif]  You're going to love the GPS and wonder how you lived without it!

[Fired00d]

Aww, d00d...you can't keep a good man down!!

[spydglide]

On that note if I seem to be cranky or not my normal self hope you all will under stand I'm suffering from "Lack of (insert what you know I'm talking about here ) Flu". [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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AwwwwwwMan, D00d, I'm already feeling bad for ya.   spyder

[cuthbertss]

I'm suffering from "Lack of (insert what you know I'm talking about here ) Flu". [smiley=huepfenlol2.gif]

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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DAMN!!!! thas jes tebble!!!!! TEBBLE    [smiley=nervous.gif]

[Fired00d]

AwwwwwwMan, D00d, I'm already feeling bad for ya.   spyder

Yea, it's going to be a bummer. I never knew how important the "hip" was until I wasn

[Fired00d]

DAMN!!!! thas jes tebble!!!!! TEBBLE    [smiley=nervous.gif]

I'm still able to "dance" at the moment, but after surgery it's going to be a while before I'm able to get back on the..... well you know what I mean.

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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[cuthbertss]

I'm still able to "dance" at the moment, but after surgery it's going to be a while before I'm able to get back on the..... well you know what I mean.

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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[ezrider]

In doing a comparison between the Zumo and the 2820 on Garmin's website I notice that the basemaps are different with the 2820 apparently having more detail.

The 2820 has a "Americas Autoroute" basemap and the Zumo has a "Americas Lite Routable" basemap. When clicking on them for descriptions it shows considerably more detail available for 2820 maps. In practice I'm not sure how much difference that makes but it could be significant?

I am about to go to another state to scout lakefront property and a GPS is vital. Apparently the Zumo is specifically lacking in detail with lake areas and I wonder what else for those of us that want a GPS to use on two wheels and four?

This coupled with no control of the route autorecalculate, lack of some avoidances, poor detour function and waypoint screen clutter may be a deal killer for me.

I'm also concerned that the route auto-recalculate function may apparently take over and modify Mapsource routes with no option to stop that, this is something I can't live with. What would be the point of even using Mapsource to generate custom (scenic) routes if this is the case?

Over the last 7 years I have accummulated more than 500 waypoints, the Zumo is limited to 500, the 2820 holds 2000.

So in the end the 2820 may be the better unit for two AND four wheel use, the Zumo is probably better for motorcycles, tough call?

This is all too bad because I thought I really wanted a Zumo

[cuthbertss]

I appreciate the detailed analysis... i didnt think to do it ( DUMBA$$ that I am) ..you certainly have given me pause...

[Twolanerider]

In doing a comparison between the Zumo and the 2820 on Garmin's website I notice that the basemaps are different with the 2820 apparently having more detail.

The 2820 has a "Americas Autoroute" basemap and the Zumo has a "Americas Lite Routable" basemap. When clicking on them for descriptions it shows considerably more detail available for 2820 maps. In practice I'm not sure how much difference that makes but it could be significant?

That was yet more of the differences in the Zumo the keep me wary of it.  Neat package on the outside.  But the more I find out the less excited about the thing I get.  Just seems that it's going to have to a real bargain compared to a 2820 to justify the things it does not compared to what the 2820 will do.  Just saying the word "motorcyle" in relation to the device is not enough to make it cost more.  Or at least it shouldn't be.

[Doc]

For any of you keeping track, Garmin has been listening, and has drastically fixed some issues with the Zumo.  Make sure you update ur software.  They even have an altimeter programmed in, for those fun mountain rides.  And a permanent compass.  Check out the improvements!

 Change History 
      

Changes made from version 3.00 to 3.10:

    * Corrected unit shutdown related to map drawing.
    * Corrected position of the traffic alert button on main map.
    * Pause trip computer time update in charge mode (automotive mount).

Changes made from version 2.50 to 3.00:

    * Allow panning from main map. Touching vehicle on main map displays coordinates and elevation in save dialog.
    * Added more fields to the trip computer including fuel gauge odometer.
    * Enabled compass display full time with additional data fields.
    * Enhanced XM weather support which is available from XM button on the main menu.
    * Enhanced traffic incident reporting.
    * Added support for SDHC cards and increased MP3 playlist limit to 1000 songs.
    * Added Audible books support.
    * Added option to limit BT headset audio to phone only.
    * Added option to display track log on map.
    * Added track log archive function.
    * Modified import /share pictures to work directly from jpeg viewer without the checklist.
    * Added support for the modified drawing styles present in certain specialty maps.
    * Display unpaved roads differently than alleys, expanded zoom level where favorites are displayed.
    * Disables auto-zoom operation when off-road.
    * Added ability to treat certain route vias as shaping points which will not be flagged or announced. Qualified shaping points are Intersections and points on roads which are not addresses, such as I-35N or HwyA. Requires routes to be created with MapSource 6.12.1 or using the zumo route planner.
    * Enhanced off-route recalculation for mixed on/off road routes and routes with shaping points.
    * Added support for new Pre-Recorded voices for Brazil, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Romania, Serbia.
    * Updated US/Canada Daylight Saving time support.
    * Correct shutdown when enter more than 4 vias.
    * Correct issue preventing conversion of tracks to routes in southern hemisphere.
    * Correct issue which prevented writing recent tracks to the GPX file.
    * Correct issue which prevented finding points of interest after search where city was spelled.
    * Correct issue which prevented finding some addresses with overlapping maps.
    * Correct issue where a truncated route could contain an erroneous point.
    * Correct issue where a truncated route could be stopped incorrectly.
    * Correct behavior when two Cyclops safety cameras are in range.
    * Correct handling of track to route conversions that are completely off road.
    * Correct issues with simulator going off route.

Changes made from version 2.30 to 2.50:

    * Correct issue with mount detection logic when power is briefly interrupted.
    * Correct issue where SiRF chip cannot lock on after firmware update.
    * Correct issue when selecting a GPI point from the review map for a route.
    * Correct shutdown when displaying some banner messages in Italian/Spanish.
    * Correct issue with overlapping points in tour guide feature.
    * Correct issue with drawing the avoidances options page.
    * Use Locale setting to select American/European style traffic icons.

[cuthbertss]

That was yet more of the differences in the Zumo the keep me wary of it.  Neat package on the outside.  But the more I find out the less excited about the thing I get.  Just seems that it's going to have to a real bargain compared to a 2820 to justify the things it does not compared to what the 2820 will do.  Just saying the word "motorcyle" in relation to the device is not enough to make it cost more.  Or at least it shouldn't be.

naah, but say harley davidson..then, it HAS to cost more!
my 2820 should be here TODAY

[Twolanerider]

naah, but say harley davidson..then, it HAS to cost more!
my 2820 should be here TODAY

Now you're going to want to get a bluetooth lid so the music and GPS can be wirelessly surrounding your noggin.

[hogheritage04]

For any of you keeping track, Garmin has been listening, and has drastically fixed some issues with the Zumo.  Make sure you update ur software.  They even have an altimeter programmed in, for those fun mountain rides.  And a permanent compass.  Check out the improvements!

 Change History 
      

Changes made from version 3.00 to 3.10:

    * Corrected unit shutdown related to map drawing.
    * Corrected position of the traffic alert button on main map.
    * Pause trip computer time update in charge mode (automotive mount).

Changes made from version 2.50 to 3.00:

    * Allow panning from main map. Touching vehicle on main map displays coordinates and elevation in save dialog.
    * Added more fields to the trip computer including fuel gauge odometer.
    * Enabled compass display full time with additional data fields.
    * Enhanced XM weather support which is available from XM button on the main menu.
    * Enhanced traffic incident reporting.
    * Added support for SDHC cards and increased MP3 playlist limit to 1000 songs.
    * Added Audible books support.
    * Added option to limit BT headset audio to phone only.
    * Added option to display track log on map.
    * Added track log archive function.
    * Modified import /share pictures to work directly from jpeg viewer without the checklist.
    * Added support for the modified drawing styles present in certain specialty maps.
    * Display unpaved roads differently than alleys, expanded zoom level where favorites are displayed.
    * Disables auto-zoom operation when off-road.
    * Added ability to treat certain route vias as shaping points which will not be flagged or announced. Qualified shaping points are Intersections and points on roads which are not addresses, such as I-35N or HwyA. Requires routes to be created with MapSource 6.12.1 or using the zumo route planner.
    * Enhanced off-route recalculation for mixed on/off road routes and routes with shaping points.
    * Added support for new Pre-Recorded voices for Brazil, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Romania, Serbia.
    * Updated US/Canada Daylight Saving time support.
    * Correct shutdown when enter more than 4 vias.
    * Correct issue preventing conversion of tracks to routes in southern hemisphere.
    * Correct issue which prevented writing recent tracks to the GPX file.
    * Correct issue which prevented finding points of interest after search where city was spelled.
    * Correct issue which prevented finding some addresses with overlapping maps.
    * Correct issue where a truncated route could contain an erroneous point.
    * Correct issue where a truncated route could be stopped incorrectly.
    * Correct behavior when two Cyclops safety cameras are in range.
    * Correct handling of track to route conversions that are completely off road.
    * Correct issues with simulator going off route.

Changes made from version 2.30 to 2.50:

    * Correct issue with mount detection logic when power is briefly interrupted.
    * Correct issue where SiRF chip cannot lock on after firmware update.
    * Correct issue when selecting a GPI point from the review map for a route.
    * Correct shutdown when displaying some banner messages in Italian/Spanish.
    * Correct issue with overlapping points in tour guide feature.
    * Correct issue with drawing the avoidances options page.
    * Use Locale setting to select American/European style traffic icons.

Doc,

 Can you explain the process to update my system.  I think I know how to check for the current version on my system, but wouldn't mind a refresher about how to update.  Thanks for the heads up.  The one thing I was missing was the altitude that was on my Quest, but now that that is avialable, I'm a very happy camper.  Thanks again