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[Unbalanced]

Would different cams on the 124 give it a bit more grunt on the low end?  I would assume that you could order the 124 with whatever cams you want in it from the factory?  It also looks like the engine colors on the S&S motors don't match the Harley colors, meaning new clutch and tranny too?  Maybe that's recommended anyway with that big of a motor?

If you have a stock 124 and want low end grunt and quickness you might consider the 585 cam for it.   As long as you stay around the 10.8 to 11 to 1 you should have no issues with PMS on the bike.   With Sach's headwork and the 585 they make 135-142 torque and 122-126 hp and are right at 10.8-11 :1 with NO PMS.   Both are installed with EZ start cams and run fantastic one in a softail and the other in an ultra.   Upgrade of the clutch was needed in both bikes, and they went with the S&S clutch package.

[GMR-PERFORMANCE]

I have the LOW COMP 124 getting ready for tune now.. Can post up once done if you want to see the numbers

[ultrafxr]

I have the LOW COMP 124 getting ready for tune now.. Can post up once done if you want to see the numbers

So what do you use as a base map for a starting point when tuning one of the S&S motors?  Everything I've seen with SERT/TTS refers to moco oem motors.   

[Badger Mike]

Ray,

I would love some pictures! 

Thank you.

Mike

[RayG]

Mike,  I will try to get them out to you as soon as I can.  I received your PM and hope you get all the info you need to make a decision.  It's raining again but I did get her washed!

[Badger Mike]

Thanks, I'm going up to the shop this afternoon after work to dig into options a bit more.  I would really like to get some riding in before the weather turns here.

[Badger Mike]

So, have decided to put in a S&S 124 in the bike, now the problem of matching it up with the rest of the bike!  The damn colors don't match with the black S&S motor and the CVO grey parts

I can go with a DD7 Baker drive train, then what to do on the clutch side?  Why are things never easy

[LC110]

Paint or buy a black trans case and transplant your parts. Shouldn't be to tuff to work around and not have to spend to much more money.
I hope your build goes well, should be a great bike when your done.

[Badger Mike]

I looked at buying a new black case, it's $1,500!  Most likely will just gut the HD one and powder coat it, then put in the Baker DD7.

[RayG]

Since you are in Wisconsin your winters are on the long side, and that should give you the time needed to remove the tranny and the oil pan to have them color matched.  That should not cost that much at all.  I would have done it but it was getting close to riding season and like you our winters are long.  I trust you got the photos I sent?  I may stop at the local shop and have one of the parts guys do a search for me to check for coverage availability.  Quite a few guys have replaced the granite motor with the SE 120 so we find something that covers the right side.  If I find something I'll let you know.  I don't know how hot your 110 ran but mine was an oven on steroids, the S&S is unbelievably night & day.  Not so much heat, noise and the mid range is outstanding.  I do believe there will be more joining our ranks unless they make the 139 or the 145 available to fit our frames.  What a sickness!  Keep us posted on your progress, what exhaust are you going with? 

[Badger Mike]

Thanks Ray,

I didn't get the pictures, I'll check my SPAM folder, maybe they got caught up in there.  Ordered the 124 today, as well as the tranny.  We're trying to get S&S to powdercoat the tranney case for us to match the motor, otherwise will get close with another powder coater in Milwaukee.  My mechanic found a chrome primary cover to replace the granite for a couple hundred, so we should be good there.  The oil pan will be the only non-matching part at this point, but we can work on that over the winter.

Looks like I'll have a used 110 for sale on the site soon

[ltank]

Baker does not endorse the DD6 or DD7 for high HP/TQ Motors. They will not honour warranty in some cases. They recommend the Over Drive transmission.

[Badger Mike]

I talked to Baker today and they have no problems with their warranty and the 124. 

I have all the parts except for the motor, that should come later this week.  Then it's go time!

[JamesButler]

Realizing this thread's been dormant for 10 months, but I'm looking for an update.  How are the DD7 and the 124T working together?  Also, what cam and anything else you want to add?

[prodrag1320]

If you have a stock 124 and want low end grunt and quickness you might consider the 585 cam for it.   As long as you stay around the 10.8 to 11 to 1 you should have no issues with PMS on the bike.   With Sach's headwork and the 585 they make 135-142 torque and 122-126 hp and are right at 10.8-11 :1 with NO PMS.   Both are installed with EZ start cams and run fantastic one in a softail and the other in an ultra.   Upgrade of the clutch was needed in both bikes, and they went with the S&S clutch package.

we do a fair amount of lower compression (10.5-1)124"`s with 585 cams,VERY nice set up,around 130/135 on past builds (we`re doing a B motor for a guy in California right now)