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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #30 on: August 07, 2014, 07:45:49 AM »

Must not, they sell alot of these things. Maybe if we stop buying them they will improve
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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #31 on: August 07, 2014, 03:20:11 PM »

As you can see how important it is to remove pan and clean it. As well look above ( IE bottom side of trans case) the powder coat has a great way of trapping small particles of metal. Taking the time to thoroughly clean this entire area is very important.
Man I'm glad I read this!!! you were right....In the oil passage top of transmission going to the oil pan I thought I had it clean, took a strong magnet and went all over the area, found small particles on the magnet...Thanks for sharing!!!
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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #32 on: August 07, 2014, 06:24:18 PM »

You'd think that HD's engineering would be embarrassed as to these rampant issues?
Maybe it doesn't matter? :nixweiss:
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He said HD and Engineering in the same sentence.  :huepfenlol2:  HD engineering has been on a long vacation. In fact I think I heard they eliminated that department all together.  ;)
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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2014, 07:14:06 AM »

I hear you, but when the T/C was being advertised when it was first coming to the market, the crank was touted as being able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, and had the ability to be more powerful than a speeding locomotive..............they were wrong on that as well...
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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2014, 11:41:49 AM »

I hear you, but when the T/C was being advertised when it was first coming to the market, the crank was touted as being able to leap tall buildings in a single bound, and had the ability to be more powerful than a speeding locomotive..............they were wrong on that as well...
Scott
yes they were very wrong on that. As we all know the crank is one of the major weak points in that engine.
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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2014, 11:56:53 AM »


The pressed cranks always had the potential to shift in use, especially hard use, but the big difference IMHO was when Harley made the change to the 2007 (2006 Dyna) crank and primary designs.  With the '99-'06 cranks, they typically came from Harley with .001 or less runout.  With the new design and tooling changes for 2007, that "straight from the factory" runout figure more than quadrupled.  So the crank was a piece of crap from the moment it was pressed together, before anyone even had a chance to use it hard.  And in typical Harley fashion, they haven't fixed the problem in the following seven years.

I think they need to just start selling rolling chassis and let customers install a good powertrain from other sources.

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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2014, 12:56:07 PM »

2004 88"ers and 2007 96" engines seem to have been the worse, with the 2004's being 3-4-5X as bad, from our experience.
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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #37 on: August 08, 2014, 01:32:55 PM »

2004 88"ers and 2007 96" engines seem to have been the worse, with the 2004's being 3-4-5X as bad, from our experience.
Scott

Maybe after they got the first 100 years under their belt they figured they could slack off.

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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2014, 04:47:24 PM »

Well the bike is out of the shop with new lifters, cams, adjustable push rods and the new upgraded cam plate. Harley motor Co would not help out on anything. 28k miles and the motor sh*t the bed. The dealer knocked 400 and change off the bill because I do most of my service through them.I'm not sure if I'm going to keep it or sell it and buy something more reliable. Really disappointed in the way Harley stands behind their signature product.
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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #39 on: August 11, 2014, 05:19:00 PM »

Well the bike is out of the shop with new lifters, cams, adjustable push rods and the new upgraded cam plate. Harley motor Co would not help out on anything. 28k miles and the motor sh*t the bed. The dealer knocked 400 and change off the bill because I do most of my service through them.I'm not sure if I'm going to keep it or sell it and buy something more reliable. Really disappointed in the way Harley stands behind their signature product.

You see you had 28k and Harley banks on the garage queens and bar hoppers only racking up 1-2k a riding season. You exceeded the designed use LOL. I have 21k on my '12. I already had a valve bend and it left me stranded 600 miles from home. Gotta love them HD's (Hardly Driven?)
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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2014, 07:20:33 PM »

You see you had 28k and Harley banks on the garage queens and bar hoppers only racking up 1-2k a riding season. You exceeded the designed use LOL. I have 21k on my '12. I already had a valve bend and it left me stranded 600 miles from home. Gotta love them HD's (Hardly Driven?)

Here you go Jesse.
Local shop dropped off a 2012 CVO 110" rear head with a similar problem like you had. Guide was much worse than yours.
This was what I found, guide broke in half in the guide bore, exhaust valve slightly bent.
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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #41 on: August 11, 2014, 07:22:17 PM »

Here you go Jesse.
Local shop dropped off a 2012 CVO 110" rear head with a similar problem like you had. Guide was much worse than yours.
This was what I found, guide broke in half in the guide bore, exhaust valve slightly bent.
John
Hey John that sucks. Glad we got those junk stock guides and Springs out of mine! Call you soon to catch up!

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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #42 on: August 11, 2014, 07:38:25 PM »

Here you go Jesse.
Local shop dropped off a 2012 CVO 110" rear head with a similar problem like you had. Guide was much worse than yours.
This was what I found, guide broke in half in the guide bore, exhaust valve slightly bent.
John

How the He** does that happen ?????? Seem to me there isn't much an owner can do to prevent that, I'm sure not going to pull the cylinder heads to inspect them -- but I may borrow a borescope from work and go in through the spark plug hole -- ASAP.

 :jack: sorry  ;)
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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #43 on: August 11, 2014, 08:47:06 PM »

Same here
This 110 only had 6k on the clock
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Re: Lifter failure
« Reply #44 on: August 11, 2014, 08:50:53 PM »

How the He** does that happen ?????? Seem to me there isn't much an owner can do to prevent that, I'm sure not going to pull the cylinder heads to inspect them -- but I may borrow a borescope from work and go in through the spark plug hole -- ASAP.

 :jack: sorry  ;)
I can tell you what i would do if i bought a new bike.  I'd have the heads, cams, and exhaust upgraded and a real tune done right after break in.
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