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Aviation Build.
« on: November 01, 2014, 09:24:31 PM »

 One of Aviation's customers bout a crashed 2013 Road Glide at a auction. Will be using a hand built Rolling Thunder frame to build a custom Road Glide. Will follow the build and post updated with picks. Should be fun to check out.   Here is the bike at the auction site.  http://www.rollingthunderframes.com/
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2014, 09:26:34 PM »

 Here is the front wheel.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2014, 09:28:07 PM »

 New Frame, powder coating this week.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2014, 09:29:08 PM »

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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2014, 09:30:06 PM »

 The bike at home.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2014, 09:32:27 PM »

A quick mock up to make sure the some of the pieces line up.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2014, 09:35:01 PM »

 Another.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2014, 09:39:20 PM »

Then man with the knowledge who makes it all happen. 
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2014, 09:48:58 PM »

 After the powder coating of the frame all the parts and chunks will go to the mail shoppe and the main build will begin.  Still have to secure the trees, a rim ( or new rims ) and some small odds and sods. The bike will be painted black and white, similar to the graphics style on the RG Skunks.  Raph ( the builder ) will go through the 110 with a fine tooth comb and freshen up the cam chest. Bike has 20,000 KM on it, so right around the age of lifter failure.  Will be a moderately costly venture, but when you consider a CVO  Ultra or Road Glide in Canada is $49,500 before taxes ( $56,000 out the door ) This project will be done for less than half. Cheers.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2014, 09:51:44 PM »

Looks like a fun build.  Best of Luck to you.  Can't wait for the follow ups.  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2014, 01:00:42 AM »

Pretty Cool!!!  Any idea of the auction cost of the wreckage? I look forward to its progress. Maybe a bill of materials cost list would be cool along with the hours necessary to complete each portion of the project.
Thanks for the post...
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2014, 07:47:31 AM »

The bike was won in a auction for $7000,00 Canadian.  The frame ( with new, clear vin # and title) is from Quebec.  Will check how much it was.  Build time is planned to be approx 2 months. Our painters take a heck of a long time up here. The really good ones are very hard to find, and they know they have the market cornered. So they take there sweet time. It's always the paint that stalls projects up here, sometimes for months.  The only saving grace is the f@$&ng winter. Can't ride any ways.  So waiting is not to to bad.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2014, 05:41:44 PM »

Looks like a fun build.  Best of Luck to you.  Can't wait for the follow ups.  :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2014, 06:28:04 PM »

Looking forward to seeing this progress...
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2014, 10:46:05 PM »

Thanks for putting this up. Will check back for updates, good to see what can be achieved during the 'off' season.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2014, 02:56:40 PM »

Looking forward to following along
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2014, 05:46:30 PM »

Hey all, so the cost of the frame with title was $3,700.00   And found a set of used trees for $200,00. So up to $11,000 so far. The budget is between $20 and $25 K.  Still need front forks, front rim, tire and rotors ( or aftermarket rims and rotors  ?).  A few body panels, gas tank and paint. The rest is all labour.   

  Frame is at the powder coaters as we speak, should have it back by the end of the week.  Lots of picks coming..Cheers.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2014, 12:56:48 AM »

Hey Cvo2fixup,
Thanks for the update. I look forward to your final product...your final destination.  But as we all know it is the journey that is the interesting portion of your build.  Please keep the progress pictures coming along with costs, manhours and your personal thoughts.  Thanks again for bringing us all along on your adventure.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2014, 12:39:07 AM »

Ok, frame back from powder coating. Supper nice job, nice and smooth in all the right places. Cost was $350.  So up to $11,350 so far.  Now waiting for the paint to be finished. Then the re assembly begins. The painter we use is very good ( best around ) but he is slow as molasis in January.  It really is a love and hate with this guy. But we have no choice up here. So few good motorcycle painters. Will just have to wait.  :(
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2014, 12:39:51 AM »

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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2014, 12:40:34 AM »

Last one
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2014, 07:52:29 AM »

Enjoying the pictures and progress. Thanks for posting.
Looking at the frame neck, will this be a large diameter front wheel?
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2014, 08:51:27 AM »

This is really getting interesting and thanks for letting us in on the build.  I enjoy watching things like this progress....sorta like taking something apart when you were a kid to see how it works and then putting it all back together.  In this case, it was "taken apart" by less than happy means and bought ready for the re-build.
Looking forward to the day it's started and riden for the first time, reborn....as I'm sure you are, too. 
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« Reply #23 on: November 19, 2014, 01:48:33 PM »

Looks like there's plenty of room for one monster of a motor too!
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #24 on: November 23, 2014, 07:46:16 PM »

Looking good. :2vrolijk_21:

Maybe I will see the final product one day at a Timmies. ;D
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« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2014, 11:44:25 PM »

Awesome thread! Thanks for sharing with us!
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #26 on: November 29, 2014, 06:30:33 PM »

 Some movement happened today.  The bent chassis made it to the shoppe and got acquainted with the new frame. The build will start in ernest now.  The long wait will be for the paint to come back. You will hear me grumble periodically about the painter taking his sweet ass time.  The new trees and forks got mounted temporarily so the bike can be transported.  Man is this thing bent!!! 
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2014, 06:31:54 PM »

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« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2014, 06:32:52 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2014, 06:34:06 PM »

Another.  So bent eh!!
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« Reply #30 on: November 29, 2014, 06:35:50 PM »

 The space, freshly cleaned up.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #31 on: November 29, 2014, 08:55:56 PM »

This is going to be a very interesting build to watch. Hope it turns out to be the build you want it to be. You're doing a great job of posting the progress. That's a really nice space you have to work in as well. Good Luck, and keep us posted.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #32 on: December 02, 2014, 10:17:58 AM »

Made a horrible discovery today. This can set the build back a bit. Will be checking with a pro welding shop today to see if they can weld up a cast alluminum case.
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« Reply #33 on: December 02, 2014, 10:18:35 AM »

The problem!
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #34 on: December 02, 2014, 04:45:48 PM »

Hmmm...is that a crack I see???
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #35 on: December 02, 2014, 05:53:09 PM »

The problem!
rebuild a couple wrecked bikes. that cracked case has always been my biggest fear. not the end of the world, but I am sure you felt that way when you found the crack
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« Reply #36 on: December 02, 2014, 07:33:30 PM »

You probably already thought of this but....
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #37 on: December 02, 2014, 08:38:04 PM »

 All these options are on the table as we speak. Once it is all taken apart will have a better idea on how to proceed.  Will try like hell to save the cases. New cases are $3000 and a six week wait. We would have to give the original cases back to HD before they will order the new ones.  I hope we don't have to go that rout.  Good idea to install a remote oil filter assembly. Will explore this as a last resort.  Will know more in a few days.  Cheers.
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« Reply #38 on: December 03, 2014, 08:24:38 PM »

 Oops, something happened. While transporting the engine to the weld shoppe the owner some how snapped off the cracked filter base clean off the case. So we are going with what was suggested here earlier. Call it plan B.
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« Reply #39 on: December 03, 2014, 08:33:14 PM »

Looks like "plan B" should work, enabling you to save the expense of, and the wait for, new cases.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2014, 08:49:09 PM »

Plan B, which will look something like this will be done much neater. With better lines and nicer routing.
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« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2014, 12:18:05 PM »

That should work very well.
Check out this guy, stand up man, great customer service. http://www.mooresensible.com/
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« Reply #42 on: December 10, 2014, 05:17:26 PM »

Plan B, which will look something like this will be done much neater. With better lines and nicer routing.

I like that. Who makes it?  Wonder if it will work with vented lowers.
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« Reply #43 on: December 10, 2014, 10:15:45 PM »

Ok...what has happened here. First I must apologize for my ignorance. As I stated in a different topic, my extent of "wrenching" entails installing a new mirror after not fully engaging the kick stand...I turned away from the bike took one step and heard the most god-awful sound there could be to a rider. I must say though the mirror I installed is still attached. :)
So if someone could walk me through the difference between plan A and plan B, in a not to technical manner it would be deeply appreciated. Be advised though you would be explaining to someone who would be challenged to tell where the engine stops and the tranny begins.
I think it will be really interesting to follow the process of the build. And maybe the pros and cons of each plan.
If what I am asking makes me out to be too much of a pain in the ass and not worth the trouble thats fine, I will still follow the build.
Thanks for you guys help and patience.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #44 on: December 12, 2014, 09:05:31 AM »

I'll break it down Barney style as best I can:

The location where the oil filter mounts has a crack (for this explanation I'll call it the oil filter mount but that is not 100% accurate). The cast piece on the engine is where the oil passages go from/to the engine/filter. The crack (guessing without being able to see the actual engine) may have been large enough to penetrate the oil passages, and weaken the casted mount point (consider it being a part of the engine case).

Plan A - repair the crack by welding. Tricky with cast aluminum (but I'm no welder), and it may not solve the issue (oil inlet port and oil outlet port may be no longer be physically separated by the casting if the crack extended to the oil passages). So the fix may not work.

Plan B - cutoff the mount point exposing the two oil passages (in and out). Now with the two passages exposed you can tap them and run new oil lines to the new oil filter mount. Mount the the oil filter somewhere (in the picture it is on the bottom forward part of the frame).

That is a perfectly acceptable solution. Some older bikes had the oil filter submerged in the oil tank (i.e. Shovel Head FLH), and it was common to relocate the oil filter in front of the engine on the frame.

This is a general explanation without having physically seen the engine myself. If it's way off I'm sure someone will correct me.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2014, 12:01:04 AM »

Thanks BakedInMN,
So if I understand here...in Plan B the oil in and out locations on the case remain the same but the oil filter location will change.
That was a great Barney explanation...even I understood it...is this site great or what???
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« Reply #46 on: February 12, 2015, 10:06:58 AM »

  OK finally some movement on the monster truck build.  Got the new wheel and installed the front end. Will tackle the rear end and the wiring later today.  As far as the main problem ( snapped off filter base  ) the owner of the bike hauled away the engine and all the broken parts in a attempt to repair it all on his own. We have no idea what he is up to. Even though he is by the shop all the time, there has bin no talking about his progress with the repair. We are hoping he will one day soon show up with the engine all fixed and ready to bolt in. Maybe seeing his ride coming together will spur him on.   More picks to come.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #47 on: February 12, 2015, 05:05:10 PM »

 Well we all had a bit of a surprise this morning. The owner of the Road Glide build came back with the engine. And against the advice of the builder, he JB welded the oil filter assembly back on to the engine.  :-X :confused5: :nixweiss: We all love the guy, and he is part of the family but this was a bit out of left field. So the builder, after ample warning of the impending doom assembled the bike as per instruction. We are all hoping this fix will work, but no one is holding there breath. I just hope the glue job fails as soon as the bike starts and not at a 100 MPH in a turn while racing his buddy.  You know what I mean?  We shall see very soon. Every one is going skiing for the weekend so the bike wont start till next week.  The rest on the build is coming together very nicely. Some of the paint is ready to go nut not until we know if it will leak.  Here are some picks. Cheers.
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« Reply #48 on: February 12, 2015, 05:05:48 PM »

 Another.
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« Reply #49 on: February 12, 2015, 05:06:20 PM »

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« Reply #50 on: February 12, 2015, 06:19:57 PM »

Well we all had a bit of a surprise this morning. The owner of the Road Glide build came back with the engine. And against the advice of the builder, he JB welded the oil filter assembly back on to the engine.  :-X :confused5: :nixweiss: We all love the guy, and he is part of the family but this was a bit out of left field. So the builder, after ample warning of the impending doom assembled the bike as per instruction. We are all hoping this fix will work, but no one is holding there breath. I just hope the glue job fails as soon as the bike starts and not at a 100 MPH in a turn while racing his buddy.  You know what I mean?  We shall see very soon. Every one is going skiing for the weekend so the bike wont start till next week.  The rest on the build is coming together very nicely. Some of the paint is ready to go nut not until we know if it will leak.  Here are some picks. Cheers.

Well the odds of that working are  ............

Maybe just "bump" the engine around a bit when installing it  :nixweiss:
Break it off before any bolts get torqued.
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« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2015, 06:45:38 PM »

Well we all had a bit of a surprise this morning. The owner of the Road Glide build came back with the engine. And against the advice of the builder, he JB welded the oil filter assembly back on to the engine.  :-X :confused5: :nixweiss: We all love the guy, and he is part of the family but this was a bit out of left field. So the builder, after ample warning of the impending doom assembled the bike as per instruction. We are all hoping this fix will work, but no one is holding there breath. I just hope the glue job fails as soon as the bike starts and not at a 100 MPH in a turn while racing his buddy.  You know what I mean?  We shall see very soon. Every one is going skiing for the weekend so the bike wont start till next week.  The rest on the build is coming together very nicely. Some of the paint is ready to go nut not until we know if it will leak.  Here are some picks. Cheers.


I don't foresee this ending well...... :nervous:

It's not my project but I wouldn't trust an epoxy to withstand the heat, vibration and pressurized oil feed. As I stated in an earlier post I think the machining of the area and relocation of the filter is the way to go. The owner should probably trust his builder to know whats best for longevity of the repair and  the safety of the rider/owner.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2015, 07:01:39 PM »

Well we all had a bit of a surprise this morning. The owner of the Road Glide build came back with the engine. And against the advice of the builder, he JB welded the oil filter assembly back on to the engine.  :-X :confused5: :nixweiss: We all love the guy, and he is part of the family but this was a bit out of left field. So the builder, after ample warning of the impending doom assembled the bike as per instruction. We are all hoping this fix will work, but no one is holding there breath. I just hope the glue job fails as soon as the bike starts and not at a 100 MPH in a turn while racing his buddy.  You know what I mean?  We shall see very soon. Every one is going skiing for the weekend so the bike wont start till next week.  The rest on the build is coming together very nicely. Some of the paint is ready to go nut not until we know if it will leak.  Here are some picks. Cheers.

Wow........Just.........WOW!!!! I am speechless.
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I don't foresee this ending well...... :nervous:

It's not my project but I wouldn't trust an epoxy to withstand the heat, vibration and pressurized oil feed. As I stated in an earlier post I think the machining of the area and relocation of the filter is the way to go. The owner should probably trust his builder to know whats best for longevity of the repair and  the safety of the rider/owner.

  The builder is blue in the face at this point. He would definitely, and is recommending the external/separate oil filter system. As you described above.  This bike will end up with the correct repair 100% sooner than later. I think the owner wants to try the organic, natural medicine, back yard shady tree way first. In the end, the full surgery will be done at his expense. ( unfortunately, to re and re the engine ) It's definitely sparking a lively debate in the shop. Oh what fun!!!   :P   Stay tuned.   
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« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2015, 08:00:55 PM »

Wow........Just.........WOW!!!! I am speechless.



  You should see the builder! Poor perfectionist. He just rolls his eyes and is also speechless. LOL!  What do they say, the customer is ALWAYS right, right?    I don't think Raph ( builder ) will let this bike out the door with this repair. To much liability of this repair failing at speeds and taking out the customer, and a school buss full of nuns in a fiery train wreck the likes of which can only be seen in a Bruce Wallace film.  I'm pretty sure it will "fail" on the bench. ;)  We shall see.
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« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2015, 08:20:08 AM »

Well we all had a bit of a surprise this morning. The owner of the Road Glide build came back with the engine. And against the advice of the builder, he JB welded the oil filter assembly back on to the engine.  :-X :confused5: :nixweiss: We all love the guy, and he is part of the family but this was a bit out of left field. So the builder, after ample warning of the impending doom assembled the bike as per instruction. We are all hoping this fix will work, but no one is holding there breath. I just hope the glue job fails as soon as the bike starts and not at a 100 MPH in a turn while racing his buddy.  You know what I mean?  We shall see very soon. Every one is going skiing for the weekend so the bike wont start till next week.  The rest on the build is coming together very nicely. Some of the paint is ready to go nut not until we know if it will leak.  Here are some picks. Cheers.

Good golly....what a dork. 
Ask him if he would like for his surgeon to do that to a broken bone?  "Hey, don't worry about that broken fibula, Instead of setting it, I just put some Elmers on it.  You can go back to running marathons in a week"
I'm all for fixing things and re-using when you can.  Ain't no way this "repair" would be one of those times. 
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2015, 09:43:01 AM »

Does this guy often make bone head moves like this?  In the end, this problem will cost him twice the labor what it would if he just fixed it right the first time.  Incredable!

Maybe have him read this thread. :nixweiss:
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« Reply #57 on: February 13, 2015, 10:13:23 AM »

 He is aware of this, and still wanted to go ahead.  Makes for a interesting experiment. The bike just started and idled for about a minute with no leaks yet. Will probably leave a drip pan under it for the weekend though. LOL.  I am unable to post a vid as it is in "mov" and not Jpeg.  I tried, it just wont work.   Well off to the slopes.   So long people.
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« Reply #58 on: February 13, 2015, 08:45:56 PM »

If that works.....I would be contacting JB Weld. That would make for one hell of a sales pitch for their product!!!!
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« Reply #59 on: February 14, 2015, 12:24:48 PM »

Thats just reckless for him and others.  If it fails he will immediatley dump several quarts of  oil all over the road.  Certainly will take out his own bike and several bikes in the group behind him if it dumps in a turn.  I hope the shop just refuses to do it.
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« Reply #60 on: February 14, 2015, 07:23:30 PM »

 Rest assured that repair will fail on the bench.  Unless the owner B/S'ed us and actually made a different repair other than JB weld. Will know more in a week or two.
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« Reply #61 on: February 14, 2015, 09:56:42 PM »

Almost fell out of the chair when I read about the JB Weld! It did make me literally LOL.

I haven't kept up with this post and good to see all the other progress made. 
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« Reply #62 on: February 14, 2015, 10:48:49 PM »

He obviously did not think about or have a clue of the shear moment force that is evident from the weight of the oil filter being cantilevered off of the engine block the way it is.
There is no way that fix is sustainable.
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« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2015, 11:03:05 PM »

Boy I hope all you guys are right, otherwise there are going to be a lot of red faces here.
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« Reply #64 on: February 19, 2015, 07:41:24 PM »

 Just a update to the madness.  So I interrogated the owner of the monster truck build specifically about his repair to the broken filter casting. Info came forth that cleared some things up. I feel a bit better about this thing staying together after talking to him. What he did to re attach the snapped off oil casting was to spline the oil passages with custom made, threaded sleeve's which when screwed in pulled the two parts together with a special high heat and pressure epoxy which he uses in repairing steam boilers!! Then to lock all this together there are a set screws for each sleeve. All of this in on the inside and can be seen once the filter is removed. So the worst that can happen is it will start to leak. At least the filter casting wont fall off and eviscerate the bikes blood all over the road. Just waiting for body work from the painter. The bike will be black and blue with white stripes. Will look awesome.
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« Reply #65 on: February 19, 2015, 09:35:01 PM »

It appears there was some thought put into the reattachment rather than just smearing on some epoxy resin and expecting it to bond the two surfaces together.
It will be interesting to see how things turn out.
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« Reply #66 on: February 20, 2015, 08:12:55 AM »

I agree with "lots of thought put into it" as it looks like this individual probably knows a bit about high temp/high pressure repairs.

Still, if it were mine, I believe I would have gone with the proven repairs known to work many times in the past instead of experimenting with the unknown on my bike.  However in this case, it's his money, his bike, his decision.  I guess he/we will see what happens down the road.
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« Reply #67 on: February 20, 2015, 09:33:56 AM »

This reminds me of a time when a buddy of mine changed the cams in his bike while I was offshore and when I got home he tried to tell me that his bike had more power because he had purchased some of those split fire spark plugs. LMAO
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« Reply #68 on: February 21, 2015, 07:09:45 PM »

 A bit of a update to the Monster Truck build.  More body work coming back from paint.  Should have the rest next week.
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« Reply #69 on: February 21, 2015, 07:10:35 PM »

 Another.
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« Reply #70 on: February 21, 2015, 07:11:34 PM »

 Another.
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« Reply #71 on: February 21, 2015, 07:12:33 PM »

  Another.
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« Reply #72 on: February 22, 2015, 10:39:41 AM »

Another.

Looks like its coming along. :2vrolijk_21:

But looking at your plate...3COW2 could not help thinking what it stands for....is the 3 for the $ and the 2 for 2nd mortgage which would then mean ..."cash cow second mortgage".... :nixweiss:

Or is it just Sunday morning and I am overthinking this and the plate was just handed to you by the Drive Center....lol.
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« Reply #73 on: February 23, 2015, 03:41:34 PM »

  Its not my bike, I'm just a casual observer and  reporter of this build. That is a interesting way to look at it.  The owner is spending a fortune on the minster truck. That front rim with tire was $3000,00   :nervous:   Will explain the plate theory to the boys. Will get a good laugh for sure. Cheers.
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« Reply #74 on: February 23, 2015, 09:44:27 PM »

Well seeing that you are also in Toronto I will keep an eye out for it and maybe see the final product in person. :2vrolijk_21:
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« Reply #75 on: February 23, 2015, 10:43:25 PM »

 The painter must have fell out of bed early today. All the body work is back and the build continues. Every one came in on there day off to put on some bling. Check.
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« Reply #76 on: February 23, 2015, 10:44:55 PM »

 Another.  Some before shots.
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« Reply #77 on: February 23, 2015, 10:46:36 PM »

  So up to this point the build, or the re build has cost about $22,000 Canadian. Once all is finished will be just under $25,000 Canadian.  So that's about $45,00 US LOL.
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« Reply #78 on: February 23, 2015, 10:51:42 PM »

  And how does the owner celebrate his almost complete bike? He gets drunk and takes a selfie. Good grief hope you all can handle this. It is kind of funny though.  LOL. 
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« Reply #79 on: February 23, 2015, 10:52:28 PM »

 And the $$ shot.
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« Reply #80 on: February 23, 2015, 10:53:32 PM »

  One more.
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« Reply #81 on: February 24, 2015, 05:21:28 PM »

 Buttoning up the small stuff today. Gas tank on and all the lines and wires installed correctly.  Bike fires up on its own fuel for the first time. Just waiting for a few brackets to arrive so it can be finished off.  The V&H Monster Ovals are to wide for the extended saddle bags, so we have to use the round cans. That's why the bags are still off. Check.
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« Reply #82 on: February 24, 2015, 05:22:47 PM »

 Our fearless leader and shop owner in the back ground. Man can that guy build a engine!!!
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« Reply #83 on: February 24, 2015, 05:23:20 PM »

Another.
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« Reply #84 on: February 24, 2015, 09:11:52 PM »

Looking Good So Far! Some of the pieces remind me of an erector set I use to have when I was a kid...or maybe it has a Transformer look.
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« Reply #85 on: February 24, 2015, 10:42:54 PM »

Looking good. Do they do their own dyno tuning or if not, which tuner/shop do they use?
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« Reply #86 on: February 25, 2015, 03:20:59 PM »

All of our dyno tuning is done by Donny Morris in Mount Hope.  Thats in Hamilton.  Tell # is 905 679-2237   This Don is very serous about his dyno work. Call him first and chat about the bike, whats done to it and what you want to do. He will do the best job and is very meticulous.  Frankly, he is the best we have in Ontario when it comes to Harley tuning. Cheers. 
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« Reply #87 on: February 25, 2015, 08:44:54 PM »

Yeah, my bike is built and tuned by Don. I had his "110 package" done in Spring 2013.
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« Reply #88 on: February 25, 2015, 11:35:32 PM »

That's cool.  Would you share what numbers you got after the tune. 
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #89 on: February 26, 2015, 07:49:19 AM »

Very good progress, like the paint scheme.  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #90 on: February 26, 2015, 08:45:43 AM »

I looks like it's coming right along!   :)
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #91 on: February 26, 2015, 09:22:49 PM »

I'm excited to see the end results
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #92 on: February 28, 2015, 09:04:36 PM »

  Just about done now. Just waiting for a few screws and a bracket for the inner fairing to complete this Monster truck. The paint is looking very nice.  The bike ended up with air ride rear suspension, so up and down it goes.  Oh cant decide on the style of the tank emblems. But there will be emblems eventually.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #93 on: February 28, 2015, 09:06:44 PM »

 On the bike is Charley, the shops bike detail guy. No one makes them as clean and shiny like Charley. I'm talking every nook and cranny.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #94 on: March 01, 2015, 02:02:18 AM »

Those are some high up wind grabbing apes for sure.
She looks good!!!
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #95 on: March 01, 2015, 10:11:42 AM »

 Now that the owner had a chance to sit on the bike with the seat in place, a shorter set of apes are already on order. 10 inch I think.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #96 on: March 01, 2015, 02:58:13 PM »

On the bike is Charley, the shops bike detail guy. No one makes them as clean and shiny like Charley. I'm talking every nook and cranny.
I like the driving lights above the turn signals. Who makes them? Did you have to modify to install?
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #97 on: March 01, 2015, 05:25:52 PM »

 Those lights are Kuryakyn. For once they made something that looks good and not over the top with wavy lines, swoops and swirls.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #98 on: March 01, 2015, 06:51:15 PM »

Looks like the wait on the paint was worth it, it looks like the lines line up damn near perfect.  I hope the amsoil stickers aren't staying on the tank.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #99 on: March 01, 2015, 07:37:34 PM »

  The Owner cant decide on what HD emblems to use. Wanted to use the chrome street glide glue one's but changed his mind. But yes those Amsoil stickers were just a little joke to get him thinking.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #100 on: March 01, 2015, 10:50:05 PM »

That bike looks like a beast- nice work.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #101 on: March 04, 2015, 05:23:45 PM »

  Hey All. Some new picks of the front end. New bars are going on as we speak.  And was asked to get dome opinions on the rear of the bike. It seems to black. Should there be some blue areas on the rear? Like on the tour pack?  What do you think.  Cheers. 

  Also, those Monster Ovals were customized in order for the CVO extended bags to fit. They were swapped from left to right and the heat shields modifies to fit on the wrong side. Worked out real well. You can see how much closer they are to the rear fender. 
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #102 on: March 04, 2015, 05:24:31 PM »

 Rear end.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #103 on: March 04, 2015, 05:25:09 PM »

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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #104 on: March 04, 2015, 05:26:07 PM »

  Ok so ideas for adding some blue to the rear.  Yes or no? And if yes where to add.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #105 on: March 04, 2015, 05:40:53 PM »

Paid t tour pack to match bags.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #106 on: March 04, 2015, 06:27:31 PM »

How about a white stripe down the far left and far right side of the rear turn signals. Then a blue stripe on the inner side of the rear turn signals tie them together under the license plate?
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #107 on: March 04, 2015, 08:34:57 PM »

Blue strip down the center of the top and halfway down the back outlined in the white
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #108 on: March 07, 2015, 05:48:26 PM »

It looks too black because the colors are reversed when compared to most stock HD paint jobs.  Usually the darker color is on the bottom and the "real" color is on the top and therefore would cover the back of the bike.  JMO
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #109 on: March 07, 2015, 07:43:21 PM »

 Took the tour pack back to the painters to have some color added. The painter quoted $650 for a few stripes. So, the owner decided to live with the all black ass of the bike and not have it done at this time. At least he knows it needs some paint back there. Will prob do it this summer.   Just waiting on some small parts to come in from the mother ship. then the final touches and she is all done.  Cheers for now. 
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #110 on: March 07, 2015, 11:55:03 PM »

When the owner is riding the bike he can't see the rear end of it anyway!
I'd leave it as is!
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #111 on: March 08, 2015, 01:55:28 AM »

I would do the blue/white thing just in the center recessed area, so that it still looks black from the side and back.  That way it all looks black above the bag lids and from the back.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #112 on: March 09, 2015, 07:34:24 AM »

Cost aside from it all, I believe anything he would add to the chopped tour pac would detract from the lines created by the great paint job.  The only thing that would work would be some color to the rear of the pac.  I think it looks great the way it is.  Someone coming up to pass would expect an all black motorcycle but be pleasantly surprised to see the lines/color of the paint when beside or in front.  Looks great the way it turned out IMO.

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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #113 on: March 09, 2015, 04:08:31 PM »

 Excellent perspective!!  to like the way it looks they way it is. But a small splash of blue in the center of the top lid would be my recommendation. Will pass this on to the owner. Cheers.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #114 on: March 10, 2015, 12:27:15 AM »

Looks like he decided on an emblem, I can see traces of one in the 3rd picture up, as far as the paint maybe a little blue in the top of the lid with a bit of white striping.  But hey it looks good either way. 40 grand on a wreacked bike is a lot of cash. 
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #115 on: March 10, 2015, 09:34:08 AM »

 Oh ya the emblem. Yes he went back to the stock one. After trying 3 different ones the stock round one looked the best. Will have more picks soon. Cheers.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #116 on: March 12, 2015, 11:23:44 PM »

So are you the owner or employee of Aviation? I've heard about you guys from a guy I worked with, but other than that, your shop is kind of under the radar.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #117 on: March 13, 2015, 12:17:52 AM »

 I am just a customer of Raphs.  Raph is the owner of this awesome shop and every one is like family. The atmosphere at Aviation is just the best. So relaxed and respectful. All his customers are by word of mouth and he is very busy. The guy has hands of gold I tell you. Never a scratch or a ding and always a perfect result. A total whiz with electrical work and stereo stuff.  Can get all the cool billet parts from Europe and all the awesome manufactures in the US like RSD, Yaffie PM. This is actually a big thing for us up here in Canada. Hard to get cool stuff fast.  Any way, cant say enough good things about the shop.  Come and check iy out on your own. Cheers Ernest.
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Re: Aviation Build.
« Reply #118 on: March 15, 2015, 12:45:17 AM »

I am just a customer of Raphs.  Raph is the owner of this awesome shop and every one is like family. The atmosphere at Aviation is just the best. So relaxed and respectful. All his customers are by word of mouth and he is very busy. The guy has hands of gold I tell you. Never a scratch or a ding and always a perfect result. A total whiz with electrical work and stereo stuff.  Can get all the cool billet parts from Europe and all the awesome manufactures in the US like RSD, Yaffie PM. This is actually a big thing for us up here in Canada. Hard to get cool stuff fast.  Any way, cant say enough good things about the shop.  Come and check iy out on your own. Cheers Ernest.

Easy to get cool stuff fast- get a US shipping address and get free shipping. Drive the 90 minutes down to NY, pay $5 to pick up the box, grab some gas and chicken wings while you're there. If you declare it, pay HST, or sometimes the border guard lets you slide without sending you in to pay. I don't buy big ticket bike parts here unfortunately- big rip off.

I'm a bit west of them, but I work nearby. I will definitely check out the shop sometime.





Yeah I should check them out sometime. I haven't heard much about them, but what I have heard has been very good.


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