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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2015, 08:57:08 PM »

Evidently this was factory according to the original owner i bought from.
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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2015, 09:00:28 PM »

With Color matched vented lowers
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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2015, 09:25:22 PM »

Evidently this was factory according to the original owner i bought from.
They may well be factory but they are not original.... Vented lowers from Harley-Davidson didn't come out until '05. I got one of the last '04 Pumpkins that year (delivered 7/1/04) I can assure you that vented lowers were not offered from the factory that year.

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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2015, 10:28:30 PM »

This is a pic of the brochure in 04. The lower fairing caps sure look like the vented ones. And the the cobalt one had a chopped t/pak.
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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2015, 10:36:00 PM »

This is a pic of the brochure in 04. The lower fairing caps sure look like the vented ones. And the the cobalt one had a chopped t/pak.

I see what's on the cobalt blue & black however, that was an accessory.  04 SEEGs didn't come with the chopped tour pack until 05 MY.
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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2015, 10:58:02 PM »

I had two 2004 Orange/Black SEEG's (courtesy of a deer incident totaling the first one), one an early 2004 build and one a later 2004 build.  They did not come standard with vented lowers and did not come with a tour pak.  I purchased a color matched King tour pak and hardware from the Accessory Catalog for each bike.  The color matched vented lowers were not available until the 2005 model year SEEG's.

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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #36 on: November 16, 2015, 11:08:23 PM »

All depends on what you call/consider an "option" :nixweiss:... my bike was delivered w/the KTP... since I had to wait nine months for delivery of my bike I had time to order the color matched KTP and it was delivered/installed when I picked bike up. The TP's were included in the P&A Catalog in '04 which came out shortly (if not before) the SEEG were released.

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But we all now Harley didn't then do "factory options."  There was just one OE spec for the bikes.  That the dealer separately ordered  a tour pak (or a left handed chrome SE nut buzzing widget to enhance ride comfort) and had it on at time of delivery in now way makes it part of the factory spec for the bike.  It's still a dealer add-on.
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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2015, 06:51:46 AM »

But we all now Harley didn't then do "factory options."  There was just one OE spec for the bikes.  That the dealer separately ordered  a tour pak (or a left handed chrome SE nut buzzing widget to enhance ride comfort) and had it on at time of delivery in now way makes it part of the factory spec for the bike.  It's still a dealer add-on.
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Bottom line...

1.  The '04's didn't come with vented lowers (they weren't even an "option" in the P&A catalog that model year).

2. You could order a color matched king or chopped tourpak as an "option" from the '04 P&A catalog.

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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2015, 07:50:35 AM »

I guess I just lucked out-and especially being a pumpkin-since it is the superior color-what else says HD like orange & black!
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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2015, 08:17:12 AM »

I guess I just lucked out-and especially being a pumpkin-since it is the superior color-what else says HD like orange & black!
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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2015, 08:39:22 AM »

I actually just got this bike-its in extremely good shape with only 18000 miles-I was looking for a cherry one til I saw this bike-but anyway-I was wondering- I seem to have an engine noise at around 1800-2000 rpm if I am in 4th or 5th gear-is this a common thing-is it repairable-am I lugging it?-I don't feel like i'm lugging it-it sounds top end but sort of like a rattle-if I drop a gear and keep the rpm up it seems to go away-I have a 2000 RK with a 95" kit and an 03 heritage that do not make this noise-is it just a 103 thing? any advice would be great-thanks-I love this bike but not that noise-
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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2015, 10:49:38 AM »

I actually just got this bike-its in extremely good shape with only 18000 miles-I was looking for a cherry one til I saw this bike-but anyway-I was wondering- I seem to have an engine noise at around 1800-2000 rpm if I am in 4th or 5th gear-is this a common thing-is it repairable-am I lugging it?-I don't feel like i'm lugging it-it sounds top end but sort of like a rattle-if I drop a gear and keep the rpm up it seems to go away-I have a 2000 RK with a 95" kit and an 03 heritage that do not make this noise-is it just a 103 thing? any advice would be great-thanks-I love this bike but not that noise-

At 1800 rpm, odd are you are lugging the motor.  The only significant issue with the 103 motor in your bike was premature wear (wearing out) of the cam and crank chain tensioners. 
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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2015, 10:50:35 AM »

I guess I just lucked out-and especially being a pumpkin-since it is the superior color-what else says HD like orange & black!

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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2015, 10:55:49 AM »

Cheeko,

It could be valve train noise or piston slap or harmonics of something else.   If it were mine I would i would first do a compression test and leakdown test.   It will tell you what your cranking and allow you to compare front to rear cylinder.   The leakdown will tell you if you have an bleed off either in the valves, etc.    While doing the compression test it will allow you to take a look at the plugs to see what the running conditions are of each cylinder.

If the motor was a 88 or 95 it would not really be considered lugging, but as a stroker motor the recommendation was that under 2500 was considered lugging.   BTW do you hear the noise if your running and get on it to get around a car or accelerate?  or under steady throttle running.

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Re: 04 Pumpkin vs 05 Cherry...
« Reply #44 on: November 17, 2015, 11:11:05 AM »

I actually just got this bike-its in extremely good shape with only 18000 miles-I was looking for a cherry one til I saw this bike-but anyway-I was wondering- I seem to have an engine noise at around 1800-2000 rpm if I am in 4th or 5th gear-is this a common thing-is it repairable-am I lugging it?-I don't feel like i'm lugging it-it sounds top end but sort of like a rattle-if I drop a gear and keep the rpm up it seems to go away-I have a 2000 RK with a 95" kit and an 03 heritage that do not make this noise-is it just a 103 thing? any advice would be great-thanks-I love this bike but not that noise-

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