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[Elvis]

Here's the link for those that need it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HARLEY-ADVANCED-AUDIO-AM-FM-CD-RADIO-76412-06_W0QQitemZ4582139176QQcategoryZ35571QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting


http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448768269&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302290635&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302290635&bmUID=1129724318863&bmLocale=en_US

So, 2Lane, it appears that to get the new system up to the 60 watts we currently have on our 04/05 SEEG's, one would have to permanently mount the Tourpak, as the amp is mounted under it.....right?  'Course I think you keep your Tourpak on anyway, but this would blow the deal for me, as I mainly ride without it...maybe you will see a way the amp can be put in the fairing when you do your install?

elvis

[Twolanerider]

You're right and that is one of my concerns on this little project Elvis.  I have a tour pak on for any trip of any length but I don't have it on all the time.  I've also got both the King and the chopped paks.  So a permanant mounted amp really isn't an option.

The new radio's internal amp isn't nearly as big as our stock radio's.  The new radio kit comes with the new speakers so I'll have those and the Hogtunes to play with.  I'm hoping that a combination there will be good enough.  If not I'll have to fabricate a quick-release of some kind for the accessory amp so it can go from one tour pak to the other.  Not too worried about a harness connector though.  That'd be the easy part.  

[grc]

How big is the amp?  If not too large, perhaps it could be mounted in one of the saddlebags???  Only thing would be getting air flow to it.  Just a thought.

Jerry

[Twolanerider]

How big is the amp?

[Twolanerider]

Learned a little more on the amp (should it be necessary) this morning.

[Twolanerider]

By the way; one other thing I learned this morning is an avoidable mistake should someone else be considering collecting the pieces for the radio swap.  Harley shows three accessory harnesses that might be used with the new radio.  Two of them are described as just adding XM or XM and the Bluetooh cell phone connections (respectively).  The third harness offers ability to connect everything (i.e., XM, Bluetooth, CB, etc etc etc).

Since a lot of that we really don't have as an option since there won't be locations to mount it on an SEEG I saw no reason to buy a $125 harness when a $40 harness would do.  Wrong.....

We have to use the big harness.  Both of the smaller harnesses so I'm told now will only work with 06 and newer Ultras.  There are apparently some significant additions to the stock harness on the Ultras that carries some things that must be there and which are not part of the two smaller harnesses.  

So, at least from what I was told this morning, doing a retrofit means using the "big" harness 70169-06 even though several of the accessories it might account for we won't really have the option of using (at least not without changing the dash and accepting some permanent wiring to and losing the detachability of the tour pak).

[110tHunDer]

Wow, unfortunately, the $$$$s are really adding up on this mod.  About $1,000 for the radio and harness, plus another $350 for the amplifier (or be satisfied with a downgrade from our current 60 watts to a measely 20 watts per channel) and the cost of installation if you don't want to do it yourself.

I'd like to have one of these, too, but it's beginning to make my $525 HID headlight seem like a bargain.  

[Scrrem]

Wow, unfortunately, the $$$$s are really adding up on this mod.

[Twolanerider]

Wow, unfortunately, the $$$$s are really adding up on this mod.

[110tHunDer]

OK, you have a point with selling the stock SEEG hardware, but I'll be surpised if some "nut" goes upwards of $900 (doing the math on your numbers) for your stock radio and speakers.

[Twolanerider]

OK, you have a point with selling the stock SEEG hardware, but I'll be surpised if some "nut" goes upwards of $900 (doing the math on your numbers) for your stock radio and speakers.

Never know until it lists.  But 50-75% of MSRP for good current used parts has been a consistent average on the stuff I've sold on eBay.  Even if it's 50% it still makes the overall upgrade very tolerable if you really want the XM or other options of the new radio and don't want to handlebar mount the stuff.

[110tHunDer]

I agree the new radio and its available options are nice and I don't mean to come across as sounding negative with my comments.  I am glad to see the retrofit option being made available for us pre-'06 owners and like I said, I want one too.  Just can't seem to get past the sound of the cash register ringing in my head every time I read this thread.

[Twolanerider]

Just can't seem to get past the sound of the cash register ringing in my head every time I read this thread.

But Brian, it's a Harley

[110tHunDer]

(and this from the man that really wanted that "spare" 500 hp pickup truck)

[Twolanerider]

Brian, if the price tag were going to be much more than it is I'd have bailed out.  But (not counting the amp) I really expect to be out of this for less than $500.00.  And I guess I want the integrated XM that bad.  Factor in that I also just get a kick out of having it before Harley says we can and I'm invested in the process even more.

Another consideration is that if the retro really is a software revision rather than just some intermediate cable adaptor it's likely that HD won't issue a second part number for the radio but will keep that as it is now along with some extra-cost software product they'll sell us.  This dealer is wanting to push their solution so the cost is for the radio only and the software is thrown in free.  The retro/upgrade requirements can't get any cheaper than that  [smiley=nixweiss.gif]