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The New Water Cooled 103
« on: August 21, 2013, 09:06:52 PM »

Well 180 miles on it, so while its not completely broke in, it is what it is.
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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2013, 09:17:26 PM »

$27,000 bike
68 hp = 393 dollars per horsepower.

Using that scenario a new Shelby at 662 hp should cost $260,166.00.

I guess that means customers are getting a deal on the new Shelby or the shaft on the new Harley.

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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2013, 09:30:34 PM »

That's just embarrassingly lame for that many cubic inches.  Have seen 118 commonly cited for crank rating on the 1800 wing with 96-98 personally seen on a couple of unmolested bikes on different dynos.
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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2013, 09:39:37 PM »

 
You guys thought that was pretty weak, too, huh?  What about all the "more low end and best ever passing power" BS on Harley's website?  After all, they listened to the customer and gave us what we asked for! ::)
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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2013, 09:42:59 PM »

 :o :'(


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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2013, 09:45:10 PM »


You guys thought that was pretty weak, too, huh?  What about all the "more low end and best ever passing power" BS on Harley's website?  After all, they listened to the customer and gave us what we asked for! ::)


Now where would they get that idea...I didn't ask for 68hp...did you??
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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2013, 10:07:01 PM »

$27,000 bike
68 hp = 393 dollars per horsepower.

Using that scenario a new Shelby at 662 hp should cost $260,166.00.

I guess that means customers are getting a deal on the new Shelby or the shaft on the new Harley.

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I must have missed the SHAFT (drive?) in the tech docs, Chip...

Numbers don't lie, and THOSE numbers are truly BEYOND PATHETIC!

How can they POSSIBLY lose that much TQ between the engine and the rear wheel?

Answer: They DON'T... It's never really made in the first place... except maybe on some test engine sitting in a stand in a lab with a perfect tune under ideal conditions... for the advertising...

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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2013, 10:19:42 PM »

Now where would they get that idea...I didn't ask for 68hp...did you??

Now 68 hp on the Aprilia scooter would ring my bell, but it's not what I want on my Harley.

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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2013, 12:37:43 AM »

Steve,

Before you put it on the dyno, what was your take on how it performed compared to previous years stock HD?

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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2013, 01:44:10 AM »

Bigger, heavier bike, a 2014 model 103 with the stock HP & TQ in the ballpark of a TC 88.  What's not to love?

A lot.
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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2013, 07:40:09 AM »

Well 180 miles on it, so while its not completely broke in, it is what it is.

Gang, that is awful. 
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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2013, 09:28:24 AM »



So I guess it's a waiting game.
Wait for Steve at Fullsac to do mufflers, header pipe and a cam then we will find out how much of a dog it really is.
I suspect Steve with all the above mods will show us 91/105.
Steve we are waiting!

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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2013, 10:41:03 AM »


So I guess it's a waiting game.
Wait for Steve at Fullsac to do mufflers, header pipe and a cam then we will find out how much of a dog it really is.
I suspect Steve with all the above mods will show us 91/105.
Steve we are waiting!

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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2013, 10:54:09 AM »

Agreed

That sucks. With 10-1 compression and alleged new cams I would think it would do better.
I was actually contemplating getting one of the air cooled Street Glides to go with my SEEG, but must admit this changes my mind drastically. Probably just put some more $ in the old girl and keep riding her.

I was speaking with OTIS yesterday and he told me what a turd the pre-Rushmore 103's were, looks like the Rushmore aint no better.


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Re: The New Water Cooled 103
« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2013, 11:08:07 AM »

I was hoping for better. well the numbers are what they are, just more opportunities for the aftermarket. They offer a $26k starter kit.
The MOCO published the 2014 MY improvements, the largest I can remember, and that said the bulk of them are electronics. The bike starts to look like my wife's car with the screen and all the ginger bread but something got left out along this path, quality. And the MOCO thinks they have our trust to dive into the most expensive highly technical motorcycle they have ever built with the current track record they have? Quality and service are below par for the MOCO as a whole organization despite the few exemplary dealers that still try to swim upstream and help the riders.
If I was buying a new bike that Indian might start to look better and better.
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