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[ultrafxr]

I've come very close to running out of fuel a couple times.  Friend of mine says he carrys spare fuel in an MSR fuel bottle in his saddlebag.  Anyone else use this or something similar?

[Special_Ed]

I've owned and used MSR bottles for the last 20 years carrying white fuel for camping. I've been told you can use them for gas too. I thought about carrying my 22oz bottle with me to up state NY this summer, with my V only going about 115 miles on a tank. They are a well made product.

According to their site they sell the Whisperlite Internationale stove that burns White fuel, Jet fuel, Unleaded gas. They all need to go in the same fuel cell with the same pump assembly. I'll see if I can find more info.

Ed

[Puzzled]

I carry fuel on the long trips when I travel by myself. I store it in the water bottle holder on my crash bar. I've never needed it yet but have come VERY close.

[Special_Ed]

I called the MSR company, Cascade Designs. I talked with tech support and there is no problem to carry gas in their fuel cells however they will not approve of carrying gas in their bottles when transporting it over the road. The tech claimed that they get that question a lot and because of DOT rules the bottles are not approved for that use.


Hope that helps,

Ed

[SPIDERMAN]

Friend of mine has a 1 gallon plastic gas can he bought a WALMART that fits in his saddlebag perfectly. He cleans it judciously after filling and seals it up tight and has never had it leak. He and I were out in the middle of west Texas one year at about 170 miles since the last fill-up and when we stopped I mentioned he hadn't seem concerned. He opened his saddlebag, moved some rain gear etc aside and showed me the can.

B B

[cuthbertss]

I called the MSR company, Cascade Designs. I talked with tech support and there is no problem to carry gas in their fuel cells however they will not approve of carrying gas in their bottles when transporting it over the road. The tech claimed that they get that question a lot and because of DOT rules the bottles are not approved for that use.


Hope that helps,

Ed

thats some real double talk from the company right there 

[chaos901]

I carry tow of those bottles, the quart size, have for a couple of years.  Not the same gas.  I have never had to use them but I have put more than five gallons in my bike a couple of times filling up while traveling so it has been close.  Helps with the peace of mind.  IMO 

Robert told me about them.  You can buy them in Memphis at the Bass Pro Shop back where the cook stoves are located.

[cuthbertss]

Friend of mine has a 1 gallon plastic gas can he bought a WALMART that fits in his saddlebag perfectly. He cleans it judciously after filling and seals it up tight and has never had it leak. He and I were out in the middle of west Texas one year at about 170 miles since the last fill-up and when we stopped I mentioned he hadn't seem concerned. He opened his saddlebag, moved some rain gear etc aside and showed me the can.

B B

that has never happened to me... right John, Debbie and Bret

[Midnight Rider]

Jerry...I've been carrying fuel in similar bottles (SIGG) for years camping/backpacking.  They have never leaked.  I even have a pint size that I use for Tequila when traveling, specially made for that purpose, so it imparts no taste to the liquid.

If I ever go off very far on the V, I'll have a bit of extra fuel in one of those with me.

MSR; Sigg-Sauer; Peak...all are the same design.

[cuthbertss]

Jerry...I've been carrying fuel in similar bottles (SIGG) for years camping/backpacking.  They have never leaked.  I even have a pint size that I use for Tequila when traveling, specially made for that purpose, so it imparts no taste to the liquid.

If I ever go off very far on the V, I'll have a bit of extra fuel in one of those with me.

MSR; Sigg-Sauer; Peak...all are the same design.

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[Midnight Rider]

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Sigg used to make a line of these things, and some other outdoor hardware...I don't think it's the same company as you're thinking of, and don't seem to be able to locate the bottles now on the web. They were Swiss, if memory serves me.

[cuthbertss]

Sigg used to make a line of these things, and some other outdoor hardware...I don't think it's the same company as you're thinking of, and don't seem to be able to locate the bottles now on the web. They were Swiss, if memory serves me.

jes checkin lol

[ultrafxr]

Sigg used to make a line of these things, and some other outdoor hardware...I don't think it's the same company as you're thinking of, and don't seem to be able to locate the bottles now on the web. They were Swiss, if memory serves me.

Like I always say, only three things you need when traveling on your Harley - cell phone, credit card and gun. 

[skyglide]

Hey cool thread. I will be checking into the bottle

[ccr]

We carry that exact bottle full only to the line ---- which leaves expansion room, in the left saddlebag bag that sits on the left of the Road King when three of us are travelling together.  That bag has the perfect bag to carry it.  We have never carried it on the SEEGs though.  We have run out of gas on our bikes within a few feet of each other and had to beg gas from the farmer's wife.  It is pretty small and sometimes you don't need gallons, just a bit to go a bit further. 

[ccr]

Oh, Jamey just told me the bottle was on the SEEG for the Nelson trip,  We just never needed them.  On that trip, so very many miles eaten up so quickly that the bladder needed emptying right before or right at the need for fueling.  So we have carried that little bottle quite a bit.  I had to buy it when I had my little 800 Suzuki.  It had a small gas tank and all the riding buddies had five gallon tanks. 

[Jim]

I have carried a couple of the 33 ounce units for a couple of years now on long trips with no problems. I fill them to the top and put them in a large zip lock bag and put one in the bottom of each side bag. With a 6 gallon tank on my new bike there is probably is no need to think about using them again. I would suggest to keep a couple of extra "o" rings with you for the caps.

Jim

[porthole]

I would think in the bottom of the saddlebags would not be such a great spot, due to the heat coming up off the pipes.

[Jim]

Something to think about, I have really never noticed a heat issue inside my side bags? just thought about keeping wieght as low as possible.

[cuthbertss]

I would think in the bottom of the saddlebags would not be such a great spot, due to the heat coming up off the pipes.

that would suck!!! 

im glad we have firefighters on here...

good thought

[Twolanerider]

that would suck!!! 

Don't suppose the little saddlebag pins and wire retainers would hold up too long if a bottle went off like a JATO ?

[porthole]

Don't suppose the little saddlebag pins and wire retainers would hold up too long if a bottle went off like a JATO ?

 

[porthole]

Don't suppose the little saddlebag pins and wire retainers would hold up too long if a bottle went off like a JATO ?

And for those that don't know a JATO form a NATO

Jet Assisted Take Off

[MUFFMAN]

I've thought about bringing extra fuel on trips but just don't like theidea of a flamable item like that in my saddlebags ,tour pak etc in the unlikely event of a crash. (sparks etc)

[Copper/Black Cvo]

The thought of having extra fuel is Great.....

But then again, The thought of having a Accident/Blast might be worst....

Are there anyother options out there in carry fuel Bottles attached to the tour pak, on the outside, similar to gas can on the rear of a jeep

And are those bottle crash proof

P.S. You guy do think of everything....Thanks for all the Great Info

[Chief]

The thought of having extra fuel is Great.....

But then again, The thought of having a Accident/Blast might be worst....

Are there anyother options out there in carry fuel Bottles attached to the tour pak, on the outside, similar to gas can on the rear of a jeep

And are those bottle crash proof

P.S. You guy do think of everything....Thanks for all the Great Info

Let's see. Your new bike comes with a six gallon tank and mine is only five. And YOU want the extra fuel? That's just not right. You need to drink more coffee when you stop then stopping for fuel is no longer an issue. You can always fill up when you stop to pee.

[chaos901]

The MSR bottles are constructed from aluminum and I carry them in my saddlebags.  If you think about it they are better protected there than the five gallons between your legs.

[Copper/Black Cvo]

Chief, Don't drink coffee but I get your point.....

and

Great Point The MSR bottles are constructed from aluminum and I carry them in my saddlebags.  If you think about it they are better protected there than the five gallons between your legs.

[Chief]

Chief, Don't drink coffee but I get your point.....

and

Great Point The MSR bottles are constructed from aluminum and I carry them in my saddlebags.  If you think about it they are better protected there than the five gallons between your legs.

I'd love to have an extra gallon or two and have thought about the little 1 gal plastic jugs too. The MSR bottles are neat, but at only 22 oz. I question the benefit unless you carry a six pack.

[Special_Ed]

I'd love to have an extra gallon or two and have thought about the little 1 gal plastic jugs too. The MSR bottles are neat, but at only 22 oz. I question the benefit unless you carry a six pack.

The 22oz would work better on my bike. With only a 3.7 gallon tank to start with it would get me another 20 miles or so. I'd rather just stop for more coffee...

[Chief]

The 22oz would work better on my bike. With only a 3.7 gallon tank to start with it would get me another 20 miles or so. I'd rather just stop for more coffee...

Ed, you get 120 mpg on that thing? What's your secret? 

22 ounces is just over 1/6 of a gallon. At 40 mpg, that is about 7 miles.  Are you holding out on us?

[Special_Ed]

Ed, you get 120 mpg on that thing? What's your secret? 

22 ounces is just over 1/6 of a gallon. At 40 mpg, that is about 7 miles.  Are you holding out on us?

It's all down hill??? Or maybe just wishful thinking on my part. If I run it as far as i dare I can get 125 miles out of 3.7 gallons. So I guess your math is closer to the truth. I'd be hoping that I'd at least be pushing the bike 7 miles less....

[ultrafxr]

I'd love to have an extra gallon or two and have thought about the little 1 gal plastic jugs too. The MSR bottles are neat, but at only 22 oz. I question the benefit unless you carry a six pack.

Chuck, they have a 33 oz size also.  Not a lot but 10 to 15 miles might make a difference.

[Midnight Rider]

The danger of one of these type bottles exploding is all but non-existent, unless you tied them to the exhaust pipe.  They are very durable...I have some that I've owned for nearly 30 years, and they've been dropped on rocks, stumps, pavement, etc...never leaked, and never punctured.

The interior of my saddlebag does not get hot enough to worry about one of these things blowing up.

[cuthbertss]

i cant remember where i saw it...
but i saw a bike that had a small beer keg converted to a fuel tank on the luggage rack..

that'd work

lol

[Special_Ed]

i cant remember where i saw it...
but i saw a bike that had a small beer keg converted to a fuel tank on the luggage rack..

that'd work

lol

Keg party?  ooops wrong pic...

[Special_Ed]

You meant keg tank...

[Hoist!]

Here's one on trike being assembled.

Hoist!

[Hoist!]

Here's a tank.

Hoist!

[Chief]

Keg party?  ooops wrong pic...

Ed,

I keep clicking on that picture looking for the hi-res version. You tease!!! 

[cuthbertss]

Keg party?  ooops wrong pic...

i think i was at that party

[Special_Ed]

Ed,

I keep clicking on that picture looking for the hi-res version. You tease!!! 

Sadly, so do I...

[Special_Ed]

i think i was at that party

YOU THINK??? surely you'd remember that night!

[Talon]

Here's another bar stool racer, turbo charged.

[cuthbertss]

YOU THINK??? surely you'd remember that night!

hoisty..

issat in St Cloud by any chance?

[Hoist!]

hoisty..

issat in St Cloud by any chance?

Nah, it's in Google!

No clue Scot. I found it in a search.

Hoist!

[Chief]

Here's another bar stool racer, turbo charged.

Somebody needs to bring a couple of these to Maggie Valley 2008. No release forms needed. 

[cuthbertss]

Nah, it's in Google!

No clue Scot. I found it in a search.

Hoist!

hmmmm

it looks familiar but it was quite drunk out that night

[Twolanerider]

I've thought about bringing extra fuel on trips but just don't like theidea of a flamable item like that in my saddlebags ,tour pak etc in the unlikely event of a crash. (sparks etc)

That's right.  A small quantity of fuel in a specialized sealed container covered under sweatshirts and rain gear is a much larger worry than a big container with a plastic lid right between my legs .

[Twolanerider]

I'd love to have an extra gallon or two and have thought about the little 1 gal plastic jugs too. The MSR bottles are neat, but at only 22 oz. I question the benefit unless you carry a six pack.

They make a 33 ounce bottle also.  Quart.  Half gallon if you put one in each bag.  Depending on fuel mileage that's enough to keep you from walking most times you'd run out.  We always seem to have pushed it just a little too far and find ourselves oh so close to the next place for fuel.  Half gallon of fuel is 15-20 miles at a minumum.  At the very least that's a lot less to have to walk.

[Twolanerider]

i cant remember where i saw it...
but i saw a bike that had a small beer keg converted to a fuel tank on the luggage rack..

that'd work

lol

Until some stoner walked up the back of your bike and drank your fuel....

[Chief]

They make a 33 ounce bottle also.  Quart.  Half gallon if you put one in each bag.  Depending on fuel mileage that's enough to keep you from walking most times you'd run out.  We always seem to have pushed it just a little too far and find ourselves oh so close to the next place for fuel.  Half gallon of fuel is 15-20 miles at a minumum.  At the very least that's a lot less to have to walk.

Yes, half a gallon would be great. Actually, all you have to do now is travel with someone with a six gallon tank and bring a hose. Half gallon each would be enough. 

[flyingwillie]

Regardless of tank size ALWAYS carry a syphon hose.  I know a guy (very well) who once, on the last day of a long, tiring 7 day trip accidentally filled his tank with 5.2 gallons of diesel fuel.  A fuel injected bike will travel exactly 83 yards, 16 inches on diesel fuel.  Having the hose corrected his brain fart pretty quickly, although starting the bike after refueling with gas is not easy.
Battery almost went dead before the engine turned over.   

[cuthbertss]

Regardless of tank size ALWAYS carry a syphon hose.  I know a guy (very well) who once, on the last day of a long, tiring 7 day trip accidentally filled his tank with 5.2 gallons of diesel fuel.  A fuel injected bike will travel exactly 83 yards, 16 inches on diesel fuel.  Having the hose corrected his brain fart pretty quickly, although starting the bike after refueling with gas is not easy.
Battery almost went dead before the engine turned over.   

This reminds of a "there I was, this is no chit story"

when i was a young LT, one of my Soldiers mistook a 5 gallon can of diesel for MOGAS ( red and yellow kind of look alike through a red lens flashlight)
filled a generator with diesel.

the young, immigarant mechanic trying to do the right thing is sucking the diesel out of the gas generator and spitting it out to drain the tank...

spewww speew  cough cough ....

hack hack

silence

a few minutes later same thing



lucky he didnt kill himself... 

you gotta love Soldiers

[46knuck]

I would carry a siphon hose long before a can of gas in the saddle bag. Just a bomb sitting there. I have seen more guys get a flat than run out of gas. I carry a can of flat fill  on long remote trips.

[miker]

I would carry a siphon hose long before a can of gas in the saddle bag. Just a bomb sitting there. I have seen more guys get a flat than run out of gas. I carry a can of flat fill  on long remote trips.

Can you post a pic of the Indian?
Heres my 35 HD, it always runs out of gas...and oil

[LRebel]

Yes, half a gallon would be great. Actually, all you have to do now is travel with someone with a six gallon tank and bring a hose. Half gallon each would be enough. 

My six gallon tank doesn't get me any farther down the road.....less mpg that my 02 with a 5 gallon tank   Range is about the same.

I ran out of gas several years back in the middle of nowhere (far SE Oklahoma).  Coasted in to the parking lot of an old abandon gas station.  There were several loggers that had parked their personal vehicles there while they were working.  I looked over in the bed of a pick-up truck and BINGO, there was a siphon hose and two gallon gas can in the bed.  I siphoned a couple of gallons out of the truck to put in my bike - put the siphon hose & gas can back in the truck bed - left a note with a $5 bill folded inside (gas was cheaper then) - and went on my way.   Pretty Lucky, huh

[Chief]

My six gallon tank doesn't get me any farther down the road.....less mpg that my 02 with a 5 gallon tank   Range is about the same.

I ran out of gas several years back in the middle of nowhere (far SE Oklahoma).  Coasted in to the parking lot of an old abandon gas station.  There were several loggers that had parked their personal vehicles there while they were working.  I looked over in the bed of a pick-up truck and BINGO, there was a siphon hose and two gallon gas can in the bed.  I siphoned a couple of gallons out of the truck to put in my bike - put the siphon hose & gas can back in the truck bed - left a note with a $5 bill folded inside (gas was cheaper then) - and went on my way.   Pretty Lucky, huh

Lucky you didn't try that around here. You'd get shot for just looking in the back of the truck. 

[LRebel]

Lucky you didn't try that around here. You'd get shot for just looking in the back of the truck. 

Trust me, I was looking over my shoulder pretty often, and had my story ready to spill if'n I'd got caught.

[ultrafxr]

Here's the luckiest 'running out of gas' story I've ever heard and it is true because I was there.  Riding out west a couple years ago with another couple who both ride Heritage Softails.  They were getting much better mileage then I was on my Ultra what with riding two-up and pulling my Bushtec.  Anyway he did not fill up at the last gas stop I made.  So on down the interestate we went for many miles until he said he was low on fuel.  No problem, exit coming up.  So we take it and come to red light and then have to make a left-hand turn onto a major street - six-lanes wide going downhill.  As we start out from the light and make our left-hand turn he comes on the cb - chit my engine just stopped, out of gas.  Well he coasts down the hill, crosses three lanes of opposing traffic and makes a left-hand turn at a traffic light at the bottom of the hill (green for him, luckily) and coasts right up to the pump at the Exxon.  Chit if there'd been a casino nearby we'd have headed right over 'cause his luck was running strong.

[cuthbertss]

Here's the luckiest 'running out of gas' story I've ever heard and it is true because I was there.  Riding out west a couple years ago with another couple who both ride Heritage Softails.  They were getting much better mileage then I was on my Ultra what with riding two-up and pulling my Bushtec.  Anyway he did not fill up at the last gas stop I made.  So on down the interestate we went for many miles until he said he was low on fuel.  No problem, exit coming up.  So we take it and come to red light and then have to make a left-hand turn onto a major street - six-lanes wide going downhill.  As we start out from the light and make our left-hand turn he comes on the cb - chit my engine just stopped, out of gas.  Well he coasts down the hill, crosses three lanes of opposing traffic and makes a left-hand turn at a traffic light at the bottom of the hill (green for him, luckily) and coasts right up to the pump at the Exxon.  Chit if there'd been a casino nearby we'd have headed right over 'cause his luck was running strong.

this sounds vaguely similar to a story i am familair with

[Chief]

this sounds vaguely similar to a story i am familair with

I think we've all got one of those. Luckily, it's always the 'other guy' running out of gas. 

[cuthbertss]

I think we've all got one of those. Luckily, it's always the 'other guy' running out of gas. 

yea!1
none of us would be THAT stupid
 

[ultrafxr]

yea!1
none of us would be THAT stupid
 

Wrong.  I could be that stupid but I could NEVER be that lucky.  Plus HQ has a 'eagle eye' for that low fuel light and if it comes on I start getting dope slaps on the side of my helmet.