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[Heatwave]

Very good point!  I guess that's the trade off, but I think it would be great if it came out and you could put a face plate to fill the void & protect the contacts.  I do like being able to remove my Garmin and use it in another vehicle.  Oh, well you can't have it all!

The unit in the BMW's is built in like a screen and then can also be ejected to be carried with you. It can be done but I don't know if that's how the new HD unit functions.

[Kingspoke]

The unit in the BMW's is built in like a screen and then can also be ejected to be carried with you. It can be done but I don't know if that's how the new HD unit functions.

You know, I was wondering about the K1600, having read so much about it and then simply dismissed the idea.  Good to know!  I'm going to go back and review how it works.  Thanks!

[dlaws01]

Harley Davidson does utilize feedback from a "Customer Advisory Panel" which then send out online surveys to on a regular basis asking all sorts of probing questions pertaining to their products. the parts they use and motorcycling in general. One recent survey was heavily weighted towards suspension and tire questions so if things hold true to form the feedback that was presented by their panelist may have some impact on what we see from them down the road. Believe it or not they do understand today's economy and care about their customer base as they prepare for the future.

Thanks for making me laugh . . . 

[Fatboy]

Thanks for making me laugh . . . 

....they got your money too by the look of your Avatar.   

[FLSTFI Dave]

I wonder if you will be able to add pre programed routes into the GPS.  I tend to when going to Sturgis or other places have day trip routes programed into my GPS long before I get there.  Then I can sight see and not have to be constantly looking for street signs.  I usually plan out several days worth of rides like that.

I usually do not need a GPS to get some where, but for scenic loops once at my destination.

[oe542bob]

Another yes vote for some of the changes. Does anyone know if the amp is still under the tour pack on the SE Ultra? I can't see if it is or not with the pics I've seen so far.

[Kingspoke]

Another yes vote for some of the changes. Does anyone know if the amp is still under the tour pack on the SE Ultra? I can't see if it is or not with the pics I've seen so far.

I think there's a lot to like about this bike so many upgrades (less the price increase), from performance, safety features, cooling, & infotainment.

By the way, I just got off the phone with Matt at Oakland Harley Davidson and he states the bikes were supposed to have arrived this morning but did not show up yet.  He checked the Harley in house computer schematics and stated it appears the amp is still located under the tour pack as in previous years.

[oe542bob]

Thanks Kingspoke. It would be a consideration in a decision to get a '14 as I would like to have a detachable tour pack now. I know it can be done to my '12, but haven't really got into doing it.

[Kingspoke]

Thanks Kingspoke. It would be a consideration in a decision to get a '14 as I would like to have a detachable tour pack now. I know it can be done to my '12, but haven't really got into doing it.

If the bikes are there tomorrow, I'll try to get you some pics with my cell phone, not great but should suffice for now!

[LC110]

It looks like they are ducting the heat from the lower fairing radiators under the bike and out through large ports on the back of the bike on each side between the fender and the new saddlebags

Not ports at all. They are the LED blinker/brake lights. They should have left them alone IMO. The smooth looking LED they have had these past years looked a lot better.

[North Georgia Hawg]

It looks like they are ducting the heat from the lower fairing radiators under the bike and out through large ports on the back of the bike on each side between the fender and the new saddlebags.

Not at all. The radiator heat goes out of vents on the top part of the black backsides of the lowers. Right around the rider's legs, unfortunately... 

Ken

[Kingspoke]

Here's a cut-away video of cooling set up on a 103 motor.  Sorry but it's in Italian, but you get the point!

[RoadRunnr]

Here's a cut-away video of cooling set up on a 103 motor.  Sorry but it's in Italian, but you get the point!

The cutaway looks cool, but English please

[06ULTRASE]

When you enlarged the photo it looks like you can see a wire behind a black plastic grill. At least they do have lower turn signals.   

I looked at a Ultra yesterday, it's just the bag mount there was no lights in the opening. Turn signals must be in the tour pak lights.

Keeping in mind what I saw yesterday wasn't a CVO, I'm STILL happy with my 13. 

[HDultraDad]

I looked at a Ultra yesterday, it's just the bag mount there was no lights in the opening. Turn signals must be in the tour pak lights.

Keeping in mind what I saw yesterday wasn't a CVO, I'm STILL happy with my 13. 

06ultrase - I'm headed over to Smokin' today to see theirs.  They got like 18 bikes in Wednesday.  I need to see them in person.  However, I'm definitely NOT trading my '12 in until 100K miles.  I have almost 13,000 and it hasn't been a year yet.  I have it as a personal goal and the bike is just right for me to achieve it.  I figure 7 - 8 years.  By that time MoCo will have fixed the issues that will come to light, scrapped some of the "neat" features that I feel are really trying to get riders to switch to H-D's from metric, or come out with another new line.  My money is in my wallet until 2020.