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[greglyon]

I heard from a reliable source that we could be seeing larger gas tanks.  An extra 40-50 mile range when going across some of the Western states would sure come in handy.  I believe the touring Beemers and Hondas already have  6 gallon tanks.

[VAZHOG]

The GW has 6.5 gallon I'm note sure about BMW (7.0). I think it's a good idea for them to go to a larger tank then you don't have to look for fuel instead of the sites along the way

[hdbrad03]

To go along with the water in the engine. 

[Twolanerider]

reliable source

An uncited reliable source is still just a rumor to everyone else.  Cite it or don't claim it.  The voices in my head get confused.

[Ceej]

And just think of how many they would sell through P & A to the rest of us that would just have to have one!

[Twolanerider]

And just think of how many they would sell through P & A to the rest of us that would just have to have one!

CEEJ, that is very true.  An extra 40 miles of cushion would not be a bag thing.  Would rally want to see how it looks though.  There's not really room between the fairing and seat to make it much longer.  So it's going to be wider.  Could easily see it getting a bit funny looking if pushed too far.  Some of the longer range tanks available in the aftermarket now aren't really proportionate to the bikes they mount on.  So would be interested.  But would want to see one too.

[grc]

I heard from a reliable source that we could be seeing larger gas tanks.  An extra 40-50 mile range when going across some of the Western states would sure come in handy.  I believe the touring Beemers and Hondas already have  6 gallon tanks.

The Beemer is 6.2 gallons.

Since the current Harley tanks seem to run right at 5.4-5.5 gallons actual capacity when filled to the bottom of the filler neck, does this mean you'll get an additional 0.5 gallons?  If so, not much of an improvement, maybe 15-20 miles.  I'd rather see them figure out how to make these things return an honest 50⁺ mpg at normal cruising speeds, and leave the tank capacity alone.  I don't know about the rest of you, but I can't ride 250 miles (50 mpg times 5 gallons) without stopping to: a.) restore blood flow to the ol' gluteus maximus, and b.) drain accumulated bodily fluids and replenish same.

Jerry

[greglyon]

An uncited reliable source is still just a rumor to everyone else.  Cite it or don't claim it.  The voices in my head get confused.

If that was the journalistic standard, there would be very little to read in the morning paper.  If you prefer, call it a rumor.   

[Twolanerider]

If that was the journalistic standard, there would be very little to read in the morning paper.  If you prefer, call it a rumor.   

ok

[nidan]

The BMW K1200GT has a 6.3G tank (the hot rod touring bike-152hp )
The LT with the older engine has 6.2

I think on anything marketed to be a touring bike a 6 gallon tank is logical

[spydglide]

  I'd rather see them figure out how to make these things return an honest 50⁺ mpg at normal cruising speeds, and leave the tank capacity alone.  I don't know about the rest of you, but I can't ride 250 miles (50 mpg times 5 gallons) without stopping to: a.) restore blood flow to the ol' gluteus maximus, and b.) drain accumulated bodily fluids and replenish same.

Jerry

I totally agree Jerry......I've been in situations where I was really nervous, but I carry a length of tubing (for siphoning) just in case.  I think the 5 gallon tank is large enough w/o compromising the looks too much.  Maybe figure how to utilize some of the frame tubing for extra fluid(s) would be a better design.  har!  spyder

[mr_magoo]

BMW adventure is actually 8.7 gallons that should give you some range.

[RedDevil]

I don't think it would make the tank that much bigger...they could go a little wider and taller and it would still look okay...but they really need to bump it up to at least 6.5 gals...that would give just a tad over a gallon more then it holds now. I don't know about the rest of you folks, but I have to stop and stretch at about every 125 miles.  But it would be nice insurance.
Cheers ,
  

[Smiler]

They need to be going GREEN and looking at mpg

[Chief]

They need to be going GREEN and looking at mpg

How will I get that "Harley" sound when the FLHTC line becomes a bunch of hybrids?

[Smiler]

How will I get that "Harley" sound when the FLHTC line becomes a bunch of hybrids?

Get an intercom/speaker system and shout BRRUMMMM, BRUUUMMM really loud... like the Goldwingers do. lol

[Twolanerider]

Get an intercom/speaker system and shout BRRUMMMM, BRUUUMMM really loud... like the Goldwingers do. lol

I think it'll be built in to Rev3 of the new Harmon Kardon radio.  A subset sound in all audio functions, whether the radio is turned on or not, but will the subliminal message, "your exhaust sounds great, your exhaust sounds great, you are a lemming to Harley Davidson, your exhaust sounds great."

[HWYMAN1]

if interested, these guys make a 6 gallon "stock" replacement tank:  http://russwernimont.com/tanks.html
john

[Twolanerider]

if interested, these guys make a 6 gallon "stock" replacement tank:  http://russwernimont.com/tanks.html
john

Have seen those before John.  Was told they are almost exactly six gallons.  Well over a 1k$ for only a half gallon gain seems a bit pricey.

[HWYMAN1]

Don,
I agree about the price, notice also the disclaimer about seat modification, more $$$$. But the look is not too bad! john

[Twolanerider]

Don,
I agree about the price, notice also the disclaimer about seat modification, more $$$$. But the look is not too bad! john

Definitely did like the look.  But wowzer, seat work, tank, paint, etc etc etc; that's a lot of hard earned dollars for what a guy is gaining there  .

[HWYMAN1]

Definitely did like the look.  But wowzer, seat work, tank, paint, etc etc etc; that's a lot of hard earned dollars for what a guy is gaining there  .

For a half gallon of gas you could get traxxion dyanamics AND legend airride system! john

[Twolanerider]

For a half gallon of gas you could get traxxion dyanamics AND legend airride system! john

Amen.  Can find a dollar and 49 cent bowl of cheap chili someplace and still get the half gallon of gas if it's needed too....

[spydglide]

Amen.  Can find a dollar and 49 cent bowl of cheap chili someplace and still get the half gallon of gas if it's needed too....

......and converting the swamp/methane gas to a useable liquid.. ..oh, never mind.  aaaarrrgh.  spyder

[Talon]

Will it have a urinal to? Need to stop sometime and relieve yourself!!!!   

[SOKOOLJ]

There are some perfectly good reasons to stop between fueling, such as...  . But, to stop for a P, is not an option, nor is it allowed.
The lone exception is my wifes "girl bladder". 

[Twolanerider]

There are some perfectly good reasons to stop between fueling, such as...  . But, to stop for a P, is not an option, nor is it allowed.
The lone exception is my wifes "girl bladder". 

Negative.  Urinary necessity is, well, sometimes a necessity.  Damn the weeds on the side of the road, stop to wizz and full speed ahead!

[harlez4me]

An uncited reliable source is still just a rumor to everyone else.  Cite it or don't claim it.  The voices in my head get confused.

The 6 gal tank is a fact. I seen them being stamped out in a new automated HI TECH stamping press in York a couple weeks ago. The tour guide said it was the new 08 tanks and he THOUGHT they were approx. 1 gallon bigger.

JD

[greglyon]

The 6 gal tank is a fact. I seen them being stamped out in a new automated HI TECH stamping press in York a couple weeks ago. The tour guide said it was the new 08 tanks and he THOUGHT they were approx. 1 gallon bigger.

JD

Thanks for the confirmation!

[Twolanerider]

The 6 gal tank is a fact. I seen them being stamped out in a new automated HI TECH stamping press in York a couple weeks ago. The tour guide said it was the new 08 tanks and he THOUGHT they were approx. 1 gallon bigger.

JD

That's interesting.  Wonder what the actual volume will end up being then?  An absolute six gallon is only about a half gallon larger than what we've actually had.  But if six is actually six and a half as the five gallon tanks have been actually five and a half that's a significant increase.

Look at us, actually (almost) praising Harley Davidson for measuring progress a half gallon at a time  .

[Texas 103]

I totally agree Jerry......I've been in situations where I was really nervous, but I carry a length of tubing (for siphoning) just in case.  I think the 5 gallon tank is large enough w/o compromising the looks too much.  Maybe figure how to utilize some of the frame tubing for extra fluid(s) would be a better design.  har!  spyder

We call that tube an "Oklahoma Credit Card">>>>> Greg

[hard10]

That's interesting.  Wonder what the actual volume will end up being then?  An absolute six gallon is only about a half gallon larger than what we've actually had.  But if six is actually six and a half as the five gallon tanks have been actually five and a half that's a significant increase.

Look at us, actually (almost) praising Harley Davidson for measuring progress a half gallon at a time  .

They'll claim that it a 20% increase in capacity and all we do is complain.

[Twolanerider]

They'll claim that it a 20% increase in capacity and all we do is complain.

AJ, more is not necessarily always better.  Being what it is Harley will of course claim a fuel volume increase as a consumer and safety consideration.  And in fact in small ways it is.  So cudos as they are earned.  But I'd much rather see them put their time and effort toward consistently good paint, chrome that doesn't peel, engines that aren't a danger to themselves, seats that are comfortable rather than just looking good, ABS across the model range, truly modern rider management electronics and a host of other things.  In other words, I wish they'd catch up to their competition.  Not even lead them.  Just catch up.  If they actually did that I'd praise them.

[dps4]

So if the whole line gets this new-stretched tank, that should completely change the appearance of the 2008's. This should make for some very nice looking bikes. It's time for some sheetmetal changes- not just paint and wheels.

[bgregston]

We call that tube an "Oklahoma Credit Card">>>>> Greg

Now thats funny!!    Hey wait... I'm from Oklahoma! Thats not funny at all. 


All these stretch models are gonna look like Duece's.

[hard10]

All these stretch models are gonna look like Duece's.

Now what's wrong with that? I own an '02. Besides, they're taking the Deuce out of the line up so they'll need something to replace it with right?

[bgregston]

I didn't mean it an a bad way. I've always been kind of fond of the Duece.
Thats one of the conflicts with the California EPA post and other information for 2008. Unless I'm wrong the Duece was listed with the 1584's. What's the gallon capacity of the Duece?

[hdbrad03]

Maybe they need room for the radiator expansion tank?? A fuel cap and a radiator cap on the same tank.

[harlez4me]

Now thats funny!!    Hey wait... I'm from Oklahoma! Thats not funny at all. 


All these stretch models are gonna look like Duece's.

From what I seen, they didn't look streched...they looked more fat

[spydglide]

From what I seen, they didn't look streched...they looked more fat

       Uh Oh!  Not sure I like the sound of that.  Can anyone say 'boss hoss'  har!  spyder

[Twolanerider]

       Uh Oh!  Not sure I like the sound of that.  Can anyone say 'boss hoss'  har!  spyder

Those big flat Boss Hoss tanks with no dash may not be much for style.  But they do have one thing for them.  A passenger can swing around in front of you, lay back on that tank and... well... ummmmm.....; never mind.

[SPIDERMAN]

Those big flat Boss Hoss tanks with no dash may not be much for style.  But they do have one thing for them.  A passenger can swing around in front of you, lay back on that tank and... well... ummmmm.....; never mind.

And the big square back tire makes all that easier at speed too !

[Twolanerider]

And the big square back tire makes all that easier at speed too !

yeah, you gotta love a bike that can't fall down.  May not turn for chit.  But it's cool when they can't fall down  !

[hard10]

.... What's the gallon capacity of the Duece?

Believe it or not it's 5 gallons.

[WFP]

my '03 SED is listed as 4.9...pre stretch...

Believe it or not it's 5 gallons.

[skreminegul07]

One time I put over 5.5 in my 2000 FXSTD and it had not hit reserve.  They say 4.9 but it is a lot more.  I put that amount in a second time at a different statyion because I thought they were ripping me off.  I called HD tech support to explain.  The answer was the capacity is full one inch below the bottom of the filler bung while on the stand.  you can put a lot more if you fill it up beyond that.

[bgregston]

One time I put over 5.5 in my 2000 FXSTD and it had not hit reserve.  They say 4.9 but it is a lot more.  I put that amount in a second time at a different statyion because I thought they were ripping me off.  I called HD tech support to explain.  The answer was the capacity is full one inch below the bottom of the filler bung while on the stand.  you can put a lot more if you fill it up beyond that.

Yeah, If its standing upright. Then you put it on the stand and it all runs out the overflow.

[bbrown]

So two lander

You sound pretty negative.  Whatsup? I think the 6 gallon tank is a great idea especially for riding out West...

Or are just truing to be funny....

[Twolanerider]

So two lander

You sound pretty negative.  Whatsup? I think the 6 gallon tank is a great idea especially for riding out West...

Or are just truing to be funny....

BB, really not at all negative on the concept of more fuel.  Anything that enhances any of the various safety margins I'm all in for.  We don't know what the tank will look like yet.  But if it's only a true half gallon larger I don't expect any dramatic difference.

I suppose if I were to consider the new tank in any "negative" light it would only be a relative one.  By that I mean that relative to adding a bit more fuel I think their engineering efforts could have gone toward ABS or a few other safety or comfort measures to greater overall good than would be a bit more fuel.  But taken as a stand alone consideration a bigger tank is a bigger tank.  That's a plus.  It it ain't butt ugly and keeps me from running out of gas just one time that's a definite win.

[REGGAB]

BB, really not at all negative on the concept of more fuel.  Anything that enhances any of the various safety margins I'm all in for.  We don't know what the tank will look like yet.  But if it's only a true half gallon larger I don't expect any dramatic difference.

I suppose if I were to consider the new tank in any "negative" light it would only be a relative one.  By that I mean that relative to adding a bit more fuel I think their engineering efforts could have gone toward ABS or a few other safety or comfort measures to greater overall good than would be a bit more fuel.  But taken as a stand alone consideration a bigger tank is a bigger tank.  That's a plus.  It it ain't butt ugly and keeps me from running out of gas just one time that's a definite win.

I'll agree with you there, Don.  A bigger tank may not be such a bad idea.  Case in point, when I was on my way to meet you guys last week, I was rolling down I40.  There is a long stretch without any gas stations on the exits.  Rather, one has to get off the beaten path and really look.  My fuel ight was on, and yes, I know, that's my own damn fault for not stopping earlier, but at that point, it is what it is.  I stopped at a small country store somewhere just east of Little Rock and asked where the nearest gas station was.  Turns out it was 4 miles down US70.  By the time I got there, my engine was sputtering.  Had I had a bigger tank, I wouldn't have been sputtering, but knowing me, I'd have pushed it to the limit anyway.  I also agree with you about funds released for R&D in other areas such as getting rid of the chain driven cams.  The chains are the weak link in an otherwise bullet proof engine.  Gears are so much more reliable, they have more accurate timing, and they sound cool as hell at idle.  Can't wait to get mine.  Note, there is no "s" on the end of the word "mine."  If there is, I hope I'm not in the middle of the mine field!   

[skreminegul07]

Yeah, If its standing upright. Then you put it on the stand and it all runs out the overflow.

That did not happen.   Actually I've never had that happen.

[bgregston]

It's happened to me a few times. I stay on the bike and fill it up, then go park. When I come back out of the store there's a circle of gas under the bike.

[naitram]

That did not happen.   Actually I've never had that happen.

RK tanks are different the EG tanks

[nidan]

Your crystal ball was clear as a bell ! Too bad they don't retrofit

[mr_magoo]

I agree on the safty factor the bigger tank will get you.  Especially out west where the gas stops can be few and far between.

[grc]

One notable improvement on the new fuel tanks - no crossover fuel line to f--k with when removing the tank for service.  The "crossover" is now built into the internal design of the tank, at the rear where it should have been all along. 

Jerry

[Boatman]

The "crossover" is now built into the internal design of the tank, at the rear where it should have been all along. 

Jerry

Probably a bigger improvement to me and techs than the larger capacity.  Thanks for pointing it out.

[skyglide]

Great idea on the 6 gallon tank !

[Kodiak]

I really like the the flush mount caps.Looks like they had to do away with it because of tank design. Everybody looks for gas at that certain mark. When ya run out makes no difference if it holds 5 or 6.

[Hoist!]

It'll only help if you're alone, or everyone else has 6 gal tanks. Cause when they run low, you're stopping with them anyway! Hoist!

[spydglide]

It'll only help if you're alone, or everyone else has 6 gal tanks. Cause when they run low, you're stopping with them anyway! Hoist!

Hey Hoist....it'll also help if you're running a 'fire-breather', 'cause you're gonna need the extra gas in that 6 gal. tank to feed the monster!   :sauer005:har!    spyder

[Hoist!]

Hey Hoist....it'll also help if you're running a 'fire-breather', 'cause you're gonna need the extra gas in that 6 gal. tank to feed the monster!   :sauer005:har!    spyder

Tru dat Spyd, tru dat! Actually, I'm expecting better than I got stock with that crappy tune I've been riding on to date! I'm only getting 33 MPG right now. With an efficient running engine and proper tune, I should get up to 38 or so. But yeah, nuthin' for nuthin'!!! Hoist!