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[Twolanerider]

I agree, but they are not willing to do it on there dime. $300 for the oil change on my dime


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Find it doubtful that any factory service spec will give guidance that changing suspect engine internal parts should be done while leaving the old oil in the engine.  Push them a bit would be they'll change it.  They can't deny the logic of the request. Should be part of the warranty job.  They're likely just trying to double dip between what they'll get from Harley for the warranty job and the very expensive oil change / 1000 mile service from you. 

Ask them to put it in writing that fresh oil is refused when lifters are being changed under warranty.  I know I'd want it documented for later just in case glitter from bad lifters (or whatever else has now hammered) makes it way to other parts.

[r0de_runr]

I would have them change engine oil only during the warranty work, but not do the 1000 mile service.  Then file a complaint about having to pay for the oil change.

This is a terrible situation for a new bike owner to be in.  Just another nail in the HD coffin.  Glad my '14 Limited is fairly well broke in now with all the stuff that had to be covered under warranty and ESP.  No more HD's for me sadly.

[Mofo67]

Picked mine up Thursday afternoon. Dealer replaced the front 2 lifters, no charge to me. Bike runs great and sounds the way it should.

[Mr. Warlock]

I just can't fathom these fools putting their customers through this chit and still putting crap lifters in these motors after all this time. How on earth could anyone who calls themselves a (tech) listen to that noise and not realize the seriousness of the problem. How could anyone not think the oil should be changed under warranty for any oil line related problem with a motor, this chit blows my mind!

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I just can't fathom these fools putting their customers through this chit and still putting crap lifters in these motors after all this time. How on earth could anyone who calls themselves a (tech) listen to that noise and not realize the seriousness of the problem. How could anyone not think the oil should be changed under warranty for any oil line related problem with a motor, this chit blows my mind!

When you realize Harley buys their production lifters from the same folks that sell GM lifters, you have to wonder why Harley's have so many lifter problems and GM has so few.  Ya think Harley buys the "factory seconds" to save a few pennies?  Or is it possible they just do a lousy job of removing flash and trash from the engine parts before bolting everything together, and the trash lodges in the lifters? 

Jerry

[HD Street Performance]

Find it doubtful that any factory service spec will give guidance that changing suspect engine internal parts should be done while leaving the old oil in the engine. 

Agreed. Change the oil.

GM lifters agreed but they are working against 90lb seat springs with valves just as heavy as the CVO. Better geometry, mild lobes. The M8 has 140lb cumulative pressure seat stock, CVO 110 165#@ 1.835 and spring rate of 441#
Eyes go to lifters and as Jerry states crud gets trapped in the lifters. It is the best oil filter, problem is when junk gets in there there is no way out and the motor will sound like hell until the lifters are changed.

[Terry60]

Agreed. Change the oil.

GM lifters agreed but they are working against 90lb seat springs with valves just as heavy as the CVO. Better geometry, mild lobes. The M8 has 140lb cumulative pressure seat stock, CVO 110 165#@ 1.835 and spring rate of 441#
Eyes go to lifters and as Jerry states crud gets trapped in the lifters. It is the best oil filter, problem is when junk gets in there there is no way out and the motor will sound like hell until the lifters are changed.

Didn’t H-D issues a upgraded oil filter for the M8?


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[Terry60]

Didn’t H-D issues a upgraded oil filter for the M8?


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[HD Street Performance]

The new design oil filter does not help. This is a system design problem. 5µ is a nominal number not absolute. Have a look at the system flow diagram if you are interested. I have not seen that for the M8 but I am sure it is in the SM, or at least it should be.

[Terry60]

The new design oil filter does not help. This is a system design problem. 5µ is a nominal number not absolute. Have a look at the system flow diagram if you are interested. I have not seen that for the M8 but I am sure it is in the SM, or at least it should be.

Talk to the service manager and he refuses to change the oil in it , and I asked shouldn’t that fall under the warranty of putting the two front lifters in it! He stated no and ask again if I wanted to do the 1k service with less then 600 miles on while the bike was there and I said no.... he told me well it ready for you to pick up then.


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[KGB]

Talk to the service manager and he refuses to change the oil in it , and I asked shouldn’t that fall under the warranty of putting the two front lifters in it! He stated no and ask again if I wanted to do the 1k service with less then 600 miles on while the bike was there and I said no.... he told me well it ready for you to pick up then.


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What dealership, do I know not to ever go there if I’m traveling


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[OBB]

What dealership, do I know not to ever go there if I’m traveling


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^ what He said!

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[HD Street Performance]

Change the oil and filter yourself, move on. The lifters at such early age are either defective from inception or are getting crap in them from dirty assembly.

[Terry60]

^ what He said!

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[Terry60]

^ what He said!

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In Nashville


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