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[Phantom309]

My FLHXSE3 is looking pretty damn ugly these days as it sits in the garage waiting to be sent to the mainland to get the havoc caused by another dealer doing $8500 of shoddy warranty work. I am having trouble getting past the quality of the product and service.......it just ruins the bike for me!

I hope that it gets fixed.....and I can learn to love again!

Yeah, that's the hate part of the relationship. Once it's fixed you'll love it again til the next time it breaks. When you tire of the constant back/forth you can always switch brands ... I've done it many times, some of us are just gluttons for punishment. This is my 4th & last unless something ever changes with the MoCo .... which I highly doubt.

[OBB]

Deep water metallic Phillip? Doesn't look too bad. The chrome on the front with this color helps break up the phallic shape of the nose some. There's one of the red also and a shot of the Sandstone color. Also, I noticed how close the controls are to the tank at full lock. You'll never get your fingers in there. This bars need rolled forward a little. And also as posted either here or on the RG site, a shot of the inner fairing that resembles a Kareoke machine.



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[fastfreddy]

went and looked at one... no Sirius xm… and says a tour pac with audio would be around $3500. they also had one with apes,    wasn't impressed enough to ride one but was told its fast 

[mark]

went and looked at one... no Sirius xm… and says a tour pac with audio would be around $3500. they also had one with apes,    wasn't impressed enough to ride one but was told its fast 

I don't use Sirius, but why wouldn't you put Sirius on you phone and Bluetooth it to the bike?

[OBB]

I don't use Sirius, but why wouldn't you put Sirius on you phone and Bluetooth it to the bike?

Data usage on the phone vs air wave usage to the bike.

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[fastfreddy]

I don't use Sirius, but why wouldn't you put Sirius on you phone and Bluetooth it to the bike?

  lets just say, that's not what makes it a deal breaker       no heel shifter either and after 2 years you have to pay for NAV.... wtf

[OBB]

  lets just say, that's not what makes it a deal breaker       no heel shifter either and after 2 years you have to pay for NAV.... wtf

HUH?? How do they do that send a signal to shut off your maps or what? That's messed up.

[iski]

HUH?? How do they do that send a signal to shut off your maps or what? That's messed up.

It's a service through the HD App & is called HD Connect.  First year is free then $12/month. Does all sorts of stuff like bug you about when you need service, probably has a whole sections on recalls since that's one way HD service depts. stay in business these days, has a stolen bike GPS tracker, and other gee golly whiz bang features that HD says are worth $12/month.  Not sure if GPS stops working or not?

[ultrarider123]

went and looked at one... no Sirius xm… and says a tour pac with audio would be around $3500. they also had one with apes,    wasn't impressed enough to ride one but was told its fast 

If you are speaking to the Challenger Fred, yep...no Sirius but that's on any of their bikes.  My '18 doesn't have it either.  While I did let the subscription run out on my '15 SERGU, it was a nice feature to have when they ran free times.  I asked the dealer and sent an email to Indian customer service asking why and if they ever considered an add-on for those that like the sat. radio.  Both stated they didn't see a need as most do use their mobile devices to stream music including Sirius so they focused on making the connection from phone to radio better for such.

I don't stream because I only have 2 gig data to use each month spread over three phones...I'd use it quickly streaming as Mark noted above.

The heal shifter is a $100 add-on and takes a minute or two to install....one of the few items I added to Cochise.  I miss the heal shifter when it's not there.

I like the new Chieftain but not enough to trade.  It has everything you would want and more in a touring bike/bagger/semi-sport bike.  It sits really nice in the showroom but I haven't ridden one yet.  I did note that they moved the catalyst from the side of the bike to the cross-over behind the motor, under the bike.  I'm guessing the liquid cooling and moving the cat will have a great impact on heat reduction...a plus for Indian and something the MoCo should adopt.

Coming from the '15 SERGU, the screen/gauge layout is very nice.  For my short 5'6" self, the reach to the radio seems not as bad as it was on the HD.  I used the handlebar controls almost exclusively on the RG due to the reach.  The bike sits really good.  Stock, it's like you are sitting in it and part of it, not sitting on it.  I did get to start the only one at the K'ville dealer and it has a nice sound for stock.  I perused the entire bike and while there, a couple guys on RG's pulled up.  They came in and were looking.  I warned them not to sit on it 'cause they may like it.  One guy did and his reaction to me was "wow".  That's one opinion out of millions but it meant something.  That guy had 70K on his '15 RG and as much or more on his '09 (I know him from the g'vment sites).  Again, not everyone will have that reaction due to the fact it ain't no Harley...

It's not for everyone...just like an all white bike or a no chrome bike or a crotch rocket or a lazy-boy on wheels ain't for everyone.  I do believe, however, In-Po has produced a very good motorcycle in the Chieftain and it will be a good addition to the Indian offerings.

I do look forward to riding one...

[OBB]

It's a service through the HD App & is called HD Connect.  First year is free then $12/month. Does all sorts of stuff like bug you about when you need service, probably has a whole sections on recalls since that's one way HD service depts. stay in business these days, has a stolen bike GPS tracker, and other gee golly whiz bang features that HD says are worth $12/month.  Not sure if GPS stops working or not?

I thought He was talking about the Challenger only having two years of free Navigation.

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[fastfreddy]

oops     bad information about the navigation, I was wrong or misunderstood  the sales man

[iski]

I thought He was talking about the Challenger only having two years of free Navigation.

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Thanks.  My alltimers kicks in more these days now that I am retirded.

[Robmay]

I think the 2 years free refers to the weather and traffic overlay on the gps, not the nav itself.

[OBB]

I think the 2 years free refers to the weather and traffic overlay on the gps, not the nav itself.

I'd settle for that. Beats the 3 months we used to get.

[FLSTFI Dave]

I don't use Sirius, but why wouldn't you put Sirius on you phone and Bluetooth it to the bike?

Biggest reason for me wanting Sirius/XM on a bike, is out west you can go for miles with no cell service, even with Verizon that claims service everywhere.  Heck, lots of areas in and around the Smokies where I live have poor cell service.

Next is data usage.