Topic: Amsoil (Read 6356 times)

SERK103 · « **on:** March 07, 2004, 01:07:56 PM »

here's the oil comparison......i think it pretty obvious.

http://www.performanceoiltechnology.com/harleydavidsonoilgaw.htm

JCZ · « **Reply #1 on:** March 07, 2004, 07:46:22 PM »

SERK I really appreciate that link and the information. I probably will not switch personally......just too much hassel. And however bad the Syn3 might be, it's still a huge leep for mankind, from the fossil oil.

Loose_Goose · « **Reply #2 on:** June 10, 2004, 06:14:49 PM »

I was wondering if any CVO owners switched to Amsoil?

mr_magoo · « **Reply #3 on:** June 11, 2004, 08:23:42 AM »

I put Red Line synthetic, in everything Primary, Tranny & Motor. Used in my Road King never had a problem. [smiley=biker.gif]

110tHunDer · « **Reply #4 on:** June 11, 2004, 10:48:21 AM »

I changed the trasmission fluid the other day. Bike had 2,230 miles, fluid (Syn 3) had about 1,600 on it. I could not believe the amount of metal particles attached to the magnetic drain plug! Started investigating on other boards and on Harley Tech Talk there was a current thread on this. Even mentioned that H-D has posted a technical service bulletin stating not to use Syn 3 in the transmission, though I have not seen the TSB myself, yet. I put Syn 3 back in since I had already purchased it, but may try Red Line heavy duty shockproof or Mobil 1 synthetic gear lube next time and see what the plug looks like with it. According to some of the folks in the HTT thread, switching to a gear-specific lube all but eliminated the particles on the plug.

Anyone else notice this?

the O`Fender · « **Reply #5 on:** June 11, 2004, 01:02:17 PM »

spoke with the service manager at the local HD dealer asking his opinion on the use of syn oil and his response was that it is OK but, not for tranny use and the reason he gave was 1) less noise from gearbox especially at hyway speeds (a good thing I suppose) and 2) tranny shifts a little easier/quieter (less clunking). I am going to test his conclusions on my trip to laconia. Will let you know my sentiments in a week or so when I return.

Glave · « **Reply #6 on:** June 11, 2004, 03:27:11 PM »

Per some of the suggestions I was checking out some of the comments on the Harley Tech Talk site. Long story short I'm going to have an Oil Lab test Samples from Engine, Trans and Primary and see what the results are. I have been running Syn3 in all 3 holes for about 2500 Miles. The test will be conducted against a virgin sample so we should have some good results. This will be a couple of weeks down the road but I will post results here and on the HDTT board also.

[smiley=beerchug.gif]

mr_magoo · « **Reply #7 on:** June 13, 2004, 09:33:51 AM »

So you are say that HD no longer recommends Syn3 in the tranny. If so they are not telling poeple. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

the O`Fender · « **Reply #8 on:** June 13, 2004, 07:13:19 PM »

The guy I spoke with was just the service manager for the LOCAL harley dealer, he does not speak for the MOCO he was passing on his personel experience. My conclusion thus far (after about 200 miles using BelRay gear lube 85-140w purchased at HD $3.95qt) the tranny is definately noticably quieter while cruising (quieter, cheaper...I'm sold), however at this point I am not ready to concede that the clunking has improved or shifting is easier. More miles are needed!!! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Will follow up for those interested... Laconia bound [smiley=party2.gif]

110tHunDer · « **Reply #9 on:** June 14, 2004, 10:39:47 PM »

Here is a link to the Harley Tech Talk thread: http://groups.msn.com/harleytechtalk/tc88fathead.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=430026&LastModified=4675476491921449226

the O`Fender · « **Reply #10 on:** June 22, 2004, 01:39:41 PM »

2000 more miles on the BelRay 85-140 and I would definately recommend using the heavier lube in the tranny, it shifts smoother, clunks a little less and is much quieter at high speeds. It is most noticable when the motor gets really hot, it continues to maintain the quietness versus the syn3 got louder the hotter the bike got. Now I understand Mobil 1 has synthetic gear lube, I am going to check it out will report back. [smiley=beerchug.gif]

spydglide · « **Reply #11 on:** February 28, 2005, 03:43:31 PM »

Dang! Now I'm really confused. Common sense tells me that a lube, syn or other, that has a higher shear/weight designed to work in a gear box would be better than any motor oil; but, and this is a big "but" for me.....the MOCO is putting the syn oil in the gear box from the start and recommending it be used. The warrenty and convenience of getting it 'on the road' w/o having to pack it make me reluctant to go back to Amsol, Redline, or Mobil. HELP

Twolanerider · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2005, 04:10:45 PM »

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spydglide · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2005, 04:44:24 PM »

TwoLane........you're so right! Thanks for the input. Makes sense to me, I'm leaving (if the weather will cooperate) for Daytona tomorrow, so I'll have to wait 'till I return to make the switch, but since I've already got over 22K miles on the syn3 in the tranny, another thou or so won't break it (hopefully). I'll change to the Amsoil I think. I really wish the MoCo wouldn't pull this kinda crap on us, but since I've been dealing with it for over 35 years, you would think I'd be getting use to it , huh? Thanks for the advice. spyd

LeRoy · « **Reply #14 on:** March 24, 2005, 02:42:18 PM »

Does anybody know what the recommended oil weight and type of AMSOIL for all the different cases... Motor ,Trans,Chain... I looked on the Amsoil Web site and there is a lot of different weights and types...they even specify chaincase 2000 oil and have different listings for severe pressure trans oil but I do not know what they recommend for our 103.

Anybody talk to a rep and get up-to-date specifics?

Thanks,
LeRoy.

mr_magoo · « **Reply #15 on:** March 24, 2005, 03:47:10 PM »

Have made the switch to Amsoil use 75-140w in the tranny and 20-50w motor oil in the primary and the engine.

110tHunDer · « **Reply #16 on:** March 25, 2005, 06:33:58 AM »

I noticed this thread which has become current again did not have a link to this very informative analysis that one of our members here, Glave, was kind enought to do and post results on. Whether you use Amsoil, Red Line, Mobil 1, or even the standard H-D xmsn lube, do yourself a favor and get the Syn3 out of the transmission.

By the way, I noticed at the store the other day that Mobil 1 now offers a heavier 75w-140 gear oil in addition to the 75w-90 they've had around for quite some time.

LeRoy · « **Reply #17 on:** March 25, 2005, 12:22:22 PM »

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Does anybody know what the recommended oil weight and type of AMSOIL for all the different cases... Motor ,Trans,Chain... I looked on the Amsoil Web site and there is a lot of different weights and types...they even specify

spydglide · « **Reply #18 on:** March 25, 2005, 07:43:25 PM »

Someone told me that they recommend using the same oil in all 3 locations to stay consistant w/ what the MoCo is currently recommending and thus stay competitive. It doesn't make any sense to me either after what we've read in this thread about the gear oil especially. [smiley=shocked2.gif]

LeRoy · « **Reply #19 on:** March 25, 2005, 09:06:43 PM »

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Someone told me that they recommend using the same oil in all 3 locations to stay consistant w/ what the MoCo is currently recommending and thus stay competitive.

spydglide · « **Reply #20 on:** March 25, 2005, 09:22:11 PM »

What exactly did Jim Van say? I'm not sure I understand what his final/bottom line is in regards to your question. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

Cannibus_Man · « **Reply #21 on:** March 25, 2005, 11:41:04 PM »

I've looked at several threads on oil and it looks like the majority of people use red line shock proof in the trans and the mobil1 in the engine.One guy even refered to the old commercial with the oil in the fryin pan ..lol It seems to make sence to me that a gear lube would be better in the transmission.I want fluids that are easily available
if i find exessive sludge on the magnet when i change all the oils, i'm changing brands

LeRoy · « **Reply #22 on:** March 26, 2005, 01:16:18 AM »

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What exactly did Jim Van say?

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