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[FullBagger]

Glad it is fixed now!   How far out is the lever before you start feeling the engagement? I kept hearing it was about 90%. My clutch seems to still be fine. Hope it stays that way.

It starts to grab about at about 60%. Doesn't move the bike till about 70 but I still have some lever left when fully engaged, even 2 up which is where it was the most challenging. You are right, it started to move the bike at about 90% and acted more like an on/off switch than a clutch lever. Will not ride until this weekend but hope it stays where it is. I wouldn't complain if it moves closer to the grip but to stay where it is would be great. I will post after this weekend.
Glad to hear yours is still good!

[RonandJanet]

That is about the way mine is. It is a lot different from my other clutches but I can feather it.  I am sure it will be fine this weekend and can't wait to hear about it!

[AMEDD_SFC]

Hi All:

After nearly dropping my bike in a full lock lefty this afternoon, I decided to revisit this thread.  I have been dealing with a "very late" engaging clutch since I bought my 14 Limited in 09/13.

Today, I got a little wonky, but I know my troubles were directly related to the lateness of the clutch engagement. I really took a hard look at it and it seems that it is even later than I am used to.  Although that could be just the adrenaline talking!  Nothing like almost dumping your bike in the employee parking lot with an audience to get you going...

Be that as it may, I know for a fact that not all the Limited clutches work this way. I have ridden my brother's 103 and it engages so much earlier and "snappier" that his bike feels like it has more power.

At any rate, I am going in for the 30 K next week and will insist that the dealer addresses the issue.

Yes, all recalls have been done.  I will take the suggestions of a good bleed and return valve inspection to the service manager and see what happens.

Again, what a great resource this board is and thank to all who have posted here.

Regards,

Mark

[Eqcons]

Hi All:

After nearly dropping my bike in a full lock lefty this afternoon, I decided to revisit this thread.  I have been dealing with a "very late" engaging clutch since I bought my 14 Limited in 09/13.

Today, I got a little wonky, but I know my troubles were directly related to the lateness of the clutch engagement. I really took a hard look at it and it seems that it is even later than I am used to.  Although that could be just the adrenaline talking!  Nothing like almost dumping your bike in the employee parking lot with an audience to get you going...

Be that as it may, I know for a fact that not all the Limited clutches work this way. I have ridden my brother's 103 and it engages so much earlier and "snappier" that his bike feels like it has more power.

At any rate, I am going in for the 30 K next week and will insist that the dealer addresses the issue.

Yes, all recalls have been done.  I will take the suggestions of a good bleed and return valve inspection to the service manager and see what happens.

Again, what a great resource this board is and thank to all who have posted here.

Regards,

Mark

Yes, I dropped mine for the same reason, Mark.   Having brought it to my (excellent) dealer's attention, first they bled it - no difference of course - then they asked the MoCo. Their suggestion is to change the clutch lever. (!)   I asked if there's a revised part, but apparently not, so I think we can guess how much difference that will make.  However, we have to work through what they say.

[sadsack]

Howdy Y'all...my first post here. {'14 CVO Road King} One thing I didn't see mentioned in this thread is changing the clutch lever. It took me awhile to get used to the hydraulic clutch, but I didn't like where the clutch engaged.  I was having a problem with feathering the clutch in tight right hand slow turns(I have medium sized hands). I changed the OM lever to an adjustable Oberon lever and have been happy ever since.

[Eqcons]

Howdy Y'all...my first post here. {'14 CVO Road King} One thing I didn't see mentioned in this thread is changing the clutch lever. It took me awhile to get used to the hydraulic clutch, but I didn't like where the clutch engaged.  I was having a problem with feathering the clutch in tight right hand slow turns(I have medium sized hands). I changed the OM lever to an adjustable Oberon lever and have been happy ever since.

Hi Sadsack,

Interesting levers - but seriously expensive and..... no chrome. 

[RonandJanet]

I am sure everyone received the letter about the extended warranty from HD due to the clutch problems. Out to four years. 

[Eqcons]

I am sure everyone received the letter about the extended warranty from HD due to the clutch problems. Out to four years.

Not here in the UK (and I wouldn't expect it here, given past performance). Care to share the detail?

[RonandJanet]

The letter stated that due to all the hydraulic clutch issues with the 2014 and 2015s, HD will extend the two year warranty to four years and it is transferable to the next owner. This was all to make customers happy and know HD is doing everything they can. I am sure you will receive this letter shortly as well.

[Eqcons]

The letter stated that due to all the hydraulic clutch issues with the 2014 and 2015s, HD will extend the two year warranty to four years and it is transferable to the next owner. This was all to make customers happy and know HD is doing everything they can. I am sure you will receive this letter shortly as well.

I bet we don't!

Is that the warranty for the whole bike, or just the clutch (and if just the clutch, the whole shooting match?)

[grc]

Just for the clutch, not the whole bike.  The last time I remember them doing something like this was back in 2000/2001 or thereabouts on the early Twin Cam outer cam bearings.  I kept the letter for my '99 Dyna for many years but I think I finally threw it out when momma insisted we purge the filing cabinets before they collapsed.  I hate to throw away old reference material, even if I no longer own whatever it was it pertained to.

I'd still like to see a copy of the actual letter if someone would care to scan and post it.  Since the recalls involve the hydraulics and not things like the actual clutch plates, hub, etc., I would imagine what they are talking about is just the hydraulic part of the system.  Oh, and btw, this is a true extended warranty, unlike the service contracts everyone seems to love to call an extended warranty even though they aren't.

Jerry

[FullBagger]

Eqcons,

The clutch lever is the only thing left that has not been inspected or changed on my bike. Give it a shot!

Well, it's been a while since I had work completed on my clutch issue.
1) Replaced the Master Cylinder
2) Replaced the clutch pack
3) Measured the throw of the slave (or secondary) cylinder

At first, mine was back to the way it was when I purchased the bike. Now with a few more K on it, the clutch engages further out and is not as linear.
Bear with me as this may be a little hard to explain in writing.
A couple of things I noticed:
1) Before the replacement parts and with the clutch fully engaged (lever all the way out) when I began to pull the clutch to change gear, it felt like the clutch system was binding. Not smooth at the beginning of the pull to disengage the clutch. Felt a little chunky. This went away after the master cylinder and clutch pack was replaced and now it is back. I did not notice this when the bike was new. Then after a few K, I did notice it. When the parts were replaced, this "binding" went away. Now it's back.
2) When the bike was new, I did not feel the clunk into gear in the clutch lever (1st to 2nd and 3rd, etc). After a few K, I did. Then when the parts were replaced, I was not able to feel the shift in the lever. After a few K, I can again. Don't get me wrong, I feel it in the whole bike but more so in the lever itself.

Because the changes to the clutch are gradual, the main reason I noticed these two things is that it has happened twice on this bike. And, of course, I am paying close attention to the clutch. Otherwise I will drop it in a tight turn! (That would make twice)
I wonder if the excessive wear reported on the original clutch was due to binding in the cage. (not the clutch itself, but there was excessive wear at the points that the clutch pack rides in the cage). Sorry to all of you techs if I described that wrong.

Thanks for everyone's input.
Eqcons, there is something not right with our bikes. Other hydraulic bikes feel nothing like mine. 
Question: Does yours once in a while catch you off guard? I mean, engage in a location that is not in the "normal" position for your bike? Mine does and it shocks the crap out of me each time. The bike launches and I have to pull the clutch back in and start over. Only once in a while though. Wondering if it's me or not.

[RonandJanet]

Just for the clutch, not the whole bike.  The last time I remember them doing something like this was back in 2000/2001 or thereabouts on the early Twin Cam outer cam bearings.  I kept the letter for my '99 Dyna for many years but I think I finally threw it out when momma insisted we purge the filing cabinets before they collapsed.  I hate to throw away old reference material, even if I no longer own whatever it was it pertained to.

I'd still like to see a copy of the actual letter if someone would care to scan and post it.  Since the recalls involve the hydraulics and not things like the actual clutch plates, hub, etc., I would imagine what they are talking about is just the hydraulic part of the system.  Oh, and btw, this is a true extended warranty, unlike the service contracts everyone seems to love to call an extended warranty even though they aren't.

Jerry

Jerry,

   I had other issues last night and did not have time to scan the letter. I will do it tonight.

[Eqcons]

Eqcons,

The clutch lever is the only thing left that has not been inspected or changed on my bike. Give it a shot!

Well, it's been a while since I had work completed on my clutch issue.
1) Replaced the Master Cylinder
2) Replaced the clutch pack
3) Measured the throw of the slave (or secondary) cylinder

At first, mine was back to the way it was when I purchased the bike. Now with a few more K on it, the clutch engages further out and is not as linear.
Bear with me as this may be a little hard to explain in writing.
A couple of things I noticed:
1) Before the replacement parts and with the clutch fully engaged (lever all the way out) when I began to pull the clutch to change gear, it felt like the clutch system was binding. Not smooth at the beginning of the pull to disengage the clutch. Felt a little chunky. This went away after the master cylinder and clutch pack was replaced and now it is back. I did not notice this when the bike was new. Then after a few K, I did notice it. When the parts were replaced, this "binding" went away. Now it's back.
2) When the bike was new, I did not feel the clunk into gear in the clutch lever (1st to 2nd and 3rd, etc). After a few K, I did. Then when the parts were replaced, I was not able to feel the shift in the lever. After a few K, I can again. Don't get me wrong, I feel it in the whole bike but more so in the lever itself.

Because the changes to the clutch are gradual, the main reason I noticed these two things is that it has happened twice on this bike. And, of course, I am paying close attention to the clutch. Otherwise I will drop it in a tight turn! (That would make twice)
I wonder if the excessive wear reported on the original clutch was due to binding in the cage. (not the clutch itself, but there was excessive wear at the points that the clutch pack rides in the cage). Sorry to all of you techs if I described that wrong.

Thanks for everyone's input.
Eqcons, there is something not right with our bikes. Other hydraulic bikes feel nothing like mine. 
Question: Does yours once in a while catch you off guard? I mean, engage in a location that is not in the "normal" position for your bike? Mine does and it shocks the crap out of me each time. The bike launches and I have to pull the clutch back in and start over. Only once in a while though. Wondering if it's me or not.

Hi FB.  Yes, I've no option but to go with the MoCo's route, so lever first.

I felt the gearchange through the lever from day 1 on my bike.  This being my 4th CVO with a hydraulic clutch, I knew this was new, and remarked specifically about it in the dealers.  Everybody looked puzzled.

Agreed - something is not right, Dunno what though, and yes, other hydraulic ones feel nothing like mine either (I have the luxury of having a friend keep his '14 FLHTK beside mine in my garage, so comparison is easy.  Every time he gets on mine he is shocked by the clutch.  My previous hydraulic clutch bikes (2005 FLHTCUSE, 2007 CUSE2, 2009 CUSE4) have not been anything like this.

I can't say I've noticed mine doing that - operating in an unusual position, BUT - I do get the feeling that occasionally, with the lever pulled fully in, the clutch is dragging and wants - slightly - to make the bike creep.  Ever noticed that?

Jim

[FullBagger]

Eqcons,
Bike creep:
Yes. But I only notice this when the trans oil is cold. Can't say I have noticed it after it is warmed up.

When I told the techs that I could feel the trans shifting in the lever, I got deer in the headlights also. Very puzzled look.

Can anyone else feel the bike shifting (while in motion...1st to 2nd and so on) in the clutch lever? This could be isolated to our clutch problem. No such luck...I'm sure.
It is the first hydraulic bike I've noticed this on. I will make it a point to look for this when I ride another one. May have a chance to ride my friends this weekend. I just did not think to pay attention to this while testing the clutch on other bikes. I was looking for how far out the clutch engaged at the time.