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[JCZ]

Hey JC! Good to hear from you! Hope things are going well for you! Yeah the SEEGS running good for now! Yes RC is where I had my 95" dynoed a few years back. Best on the west coast as far as I'm concerned. Ron Cairns knows his stuff. I got 120HP out of my 95" with his tune. I'll have RC do it eventually. I may run down to the Chili Contest in Locke tomorrow. Have a great weekend!

tntdse

Thanks for the heads up..........I did make it to the Chili Contest.  It was a lot of fun, very entertaining.

[purple haze]

DARN JCZ I'M impressed with 120 H.P out of 95 C.I when I'M making barely a 100 on Tourqe and H.P but only have header, SERT, K&N, Trip. Plat. plugs, 8mm wires and I have a 06 scremin eagle 103", Can this Man help my bike get any more with his DYNO-TUNE? Or do I need Cam and other mods. too? I bet she is a runner at 120 H.P!! I think I'M doing good at a 100! Well take care JCZ!!  PURPLE HAZE.

[erniezap]

120 out of a 95 takes cams, pistons, head work, etc.  As for your 103, it'll take more than a dyno.  Most of us are running either the Zippers or the Freedom cams which take us to about 105 HP/115 Lbs Torque.  You want to get rid of the chain driven cam due to tensioner issues.  If you want more than ~105/115, you'll have to do more work, doesn't matter who is tuning it...

[SBB]

Nancy's 95" Lowrider has Tman heads, Tman 590 cams, the Tman CP pistons.
CR is 11 to 1. Screaming Eagle ignition along with a 42 Mikuni and a ProPipe.
Normally that C/R seems high but as I have preached,


and stood on my --->  it is

"ALL ABOUT THE COMBINATION"

This combination yields 126 H/P and 121 ft. lbs. of Torque.

Just the look on her face as she dust those fast Harley guys (and even better is watching her dust the guys who think their Harleys are fast) is worth it all.


 

[Twolanerider]

Nancy's 95" Lowrider has Tman heads, Tman 590 cams, the Tman CP pistons.
CR is 11 to 1. Screaming Eagle ignition along with a 42 Mikuni and a ProPipe.
Normally that C/R seems high but as I have preached,


and stood on my --->  it is

"ALL ABOUT THE COMBINATION"

This combination yields 126 H/P and 121 ft. lbs. of Torque.

Just the look on her face as she dust those fast Harley guys (and even better is watching her dust the guys who think their Harleys are fast) is worth it all.


 

Bet it doesn't ping just crusing down the road under light acceleration either  .

[purple haze]

WELL sorry for stinking up your site by having a stock C.V.O. but I like it the why it is just misunderstood about the guy doing the tune so I will get back in my low power group, Thanks any way,    PURPLE HAZE.

[JCZ]

WELL sorry for stinking up your site by having a stock C.V.O. but I like it the why it is just misunderstood about the guy doing the tune so I will get back in my low power group, Thanks any way,    PURPLE HAZE.

Just read these last few posts for the first time.  Purple Haze stock is fine......it's still a fine running motor, even stock.

You don't have to do any work to it at all if you're not so inclined.  If you want to leave the motor itself alone, but would like more HP and TQ then you might just go with the high flow air cleaner and a performance exhaust.  That way, you still have the reliability and a little more performance.  They to get away from the cam chain tensioner issues (they will fail.......it's just a matter of "when"), several people make a "bolt in" gear driven cams so that you still don't have to remove the heads or open the motor up.  Just some things to think about, but again, if you chose to keep it totally stock......that's just fine, too.  With the air cleaner and exhaust, you will notice that you're motor runs a little cooler.

[spydglide]

Just read these last few posts for the first time.  Purple Haze stock is fine......it's still a fine running motor, even stock.

You don't have to do any work to it at all if you're not so inclined.  If you want to leave the motor itself alone, but would like more HP and TQ then you might just go with the high flow air cleaner and a performance exhaust.  That way, you still have the reliability and a little more performance.  They to get away from the cam chain tensioner issues (they will fail.......it's just a matter of "when"), several people make a "bolt in" gear driven cams so that you still don't have to remove the heads or open the motor up.  Just some things to think about, but again, if you chose to keep it totally stock......that's just fine, too.  With the air cleaner and exhaust, you will notice that you're motor runs a little cooler.

Don't disagree, JC, but, most everything on our scooters will fail eventually.......I just looked at my tensioners (45Kmiles) and they were not worn enough to replace while in there.  At this wear rate, they'll go as long as a number of items in this motor.     har!  spyder

[SBB]

Don't disagree, JC, but, most everything on our scooters will fail eventually.......I just looked at my tensioners (45Kmiles) and they were not worn enough to replace while in there.  At this wear rate, they'll go as long as a number of items in this motor.     har!  spyder

Let me ask this question.
Did I read above you went 45K and your tensioners were OK?

                       WOW

                       

[spydglide]

Let me ask this question.
Did I read above you went 45K and your tensioners were OK?

                       WOW

                       

yep, Chip, and Rabbi pulled two different twin cams down to check the tensioners with over 20K on ea. and they were both just fine.  I think there must have been a bad bunch of chains that had sharp edges that was prematurely cutting the ceramic tensioners...........either that or it has something to do with a riding style or something.  Rab said that he felt of a chain in Tilley's that they were replacing the tensioners on with very low mileage and it was razor sharp.  I felt mine and it was smooth as a baby's butt.  I'm keeping that smooth son or a gun right where it is.  46K now and heading out for a trip to Memphis should put a few more on it.  har!  spyder

[JCZ]

Whadda ya mean Spyder...........I ride very smooth and very, VERY EASY!           

You might have a point there, it could have to do with the chains more than the tensioners.  Whatever it was, it's something that I just don't have to worry about anymore.  And at 104 HP and 116 TQ, I'm happy with my bike's performance and the fact that it's still stock enough to be reliable.

[Unbalanced]

103 Engine
SE A/C & Ness Element
07 Rinehart 2 1/4 Baffle
HorsePower Inc 53mm Stock Injectors
10.5 to 1 Flat top Pistons
Brad Yuill ~ YB13 Gear Drive Cam
SE Lifters
HD HTCC CNC Heads
SE 6 Speed Trans
SERT
Tuned by Rob @ RoadHog Dyno  (normally at Pub 44 during Bikeweeks)

[SBB]

103 Engine
SE A/C & Ness Element
07 Rinehart 2 1/4 Baffle
HorsePower Inc 53mm Stock Injectors
10.5 to 1 Flat top Pistons
Brad Yuill ~ YB13 Gear Drive Cam
SE Lifters
HD HTCC CNC Heads
SE 6 Speed Trans
SERT
Tuned by Rob @ RoadHog Dyno  (normally at Pub 44 during Bikeweeks)

Not sure if your happy with these numbers but where's the low end torque?
My stock (cept for breather and pipe and tuning) 7 year old SERG makes 84 ft. lbs. of torque at 3000 RPM.
Best that I can tell your chart shows 56T @ 3000.
My advice.
Don't be rolling on with anybody with those #'s.
Peak #'s are great if that's where you ride.
But I don't think that's your style.
Good luck!

 

[110tHunDer]

Not sure if your happy with these numbers but where's the low end torque?
My stock (cept for breather and pipe and tuning) 7 year old SERG makes 84 ft. lbs. of torque at 3000 RPM.
Best that I can tell your chart shows 56T @ 3000.
My advice.
Don't be rolling on with anybody with those #'s.
Peak #'s are great if that's where you ride.
But I don't think that's your style.
Good luck!

 

    I thought you wanna know why don't the HP/TQ graphs cross at 5250?

[Fired00d]

  I thought you wanna know why don't the HP/TQ graphs cross at 5250?

 

 
Ride Safe,
Fired00d