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8885 Harley bearing
« on: October 28, 2018, 02:05:41 PM »

Does anyone know if there is an SKF or other quality brand of bearing to replace the Harley 8885 bearing? This is the bearing that sits on the clutch rod and mounts in the clutch housing and operates the pressure plate
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Re: 8885 Harley bearing
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2018, 10:04:26 PM »

Does anyone know if there is an SKF or other quality brand of bearing to replace the Harley 8885 bearing? This is the bearing that sits on the clutch rod and mounts in the clutch housing and operates the pressure plate
Would you happen to have the bearing measurements they could be referenced at an industrial bearing supplier

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Re: 8885 Harley bearing
« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2018, 10:27:25 PM »

Would you happen to have the bearing measurements they could be referenced at an industrial bearing supplier

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Actually have the inner race and the outer race but the rest was dust. Thought I would ask here first, then call Motion in the morning and see if they can match it up in an angular contact bearing
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Re: 8885 Harley bearing
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2018, 11:14:53 PM »

I don't get credit for this.  Wish I could remember from where it was liberated but have had it too long.  Question here made me remember it so a general "thanks" should go out across the ether and the interweb to the original author.  The 8885 is in the list.


8860 Steering Stem Neck Bearings 1954 -1977 5/16” Diameter Loose Ball Bearings

8871 Nippondenso Starter Drive End Bearing 1991-1994 1200’s and 1995 to Present All Models NSK 6002VV

8876A Five Speed Mainshaft and Countershaft All 1991Split Plastic Caged Needle Bearings Torrington TORR2079 (??)

8877 Nippondenso Starter Drive End Drive 1981-1994 All Models NSK 6002ZZ

8878 Nippondenso Starter Commutator End Bearing 1981-1985 XL 1000’s and 1986-1994 XL 883’s NSK608ZZ

8882 Nippondenso Starter Commutator End Bearing 1986-1990 All Models Superceded OEM Number 8880 on 1/95 NSK 608VV

8883 Nippondenso Starter Bearing Commutator End Bearing 1991-1994 1200’s and 1995 to Present All Models NSK 608VV

8885 Clutch Pressure Plate Bearing Late 1984 to Present Ripan SS NTN 6200

8888 C/S Low Gear Late 1984 – 1990 Torrington B110

8977 Countershaft Tranny Case Needle Bearing 1991 to Present  BK2526 (Germany) or INA BK2526

8996 Clutch Gear Trapdoor Bearing 1991-to Present  559197 (CANADA) or  6209 C3

9007 Generator Drive End Bearing 1958-1981  6202-ZR C3 or SKF 6202Z

9008 Rear Wheel Bearing 1955 – 1978 Front Wheel 1954 – 1963 NTN6203Z C3

9009 Front Wheel 1954 – 1972 Rear Wheel 1963 – 1978 Fafnir 203KD

9010 Rear Wheel Bearing (Double Row Brake Side) 1954 – 1962 MRC 5203SBKF, or use 1-NSK 6203 & 1-NSK 6203Z

9025A Four Speed Clutch Trapdoor Bearing 1954 – 1990 NTN 6207ZZ, Fafnir 207KDD, NTN 6207Z

9052 Front Wheel Bearing 1973 to Present and Rear Wheel Bearing 1979 to Present Timken Race LM11949 & Timken Bearing LM11910

9057 Cam Needle Bearings Late 1958 – 1990 Torrington B-117

9062 Starter Motor Gear Housing 1967 – 1980 M8101 or INA BCE810

9063 Primary Cover Starter Shaft Needle Bearing 1967 – 1980 Torrington B1210, INA S1210 or IKO BA1210Z

9073 Clutch Pressure Plate bearing 1971- Early 1984 and Prestolite Starter Motor Drive End Bearing Fafnir S8NPP or NSK R12VV same as OEM 31539-66)

9088 Generator Commutator End Needle Bearing 1958 – 1981 INA BCE89

9118 Mainshaft Tranny Case Late 1984 – to Present Torrington BH2012

18534-29A Tappet Roller 1957 – to Present Japan BRV4146 EOIIKOG (??)

24648-77 Right Crankcase Pinion Shaft bearing 1977 – 1986 (EV) Torrington Bearing HJ202816

24729-52 Left Crankcase Shaft bearing 1954 – 1976 Timken Race 0719D and a Torrington Bearing RA52340-1 (??)

24729-74 left crankcase Sprocket Shaft bearing 1977 – 1990 Timken Race L44610 and Timken Bearing L44649

29916-82 Hitachi Generator Commutator End Bearing1982 - Early 1984 NSK 6201VV

29917-82 Hitachi Generator Drive End bearing 1982 – Early 1984 NSK (325) 604DU (??)

31539-66 Prestolite Starter Motor Drive End Bearing 1967 – 1980 Fafnir S8PP or NSK R12VV

31583-73 Hitachi Starter Motor Drive End Bearing 1974 – 1976 NSK 6004VV

35051-89 Mainshaft Fifth Drive Gear Needle Bearings 1991 to Present  HK2520

35960-54 Countershaft Closed End Needle Bearing 1954 – 1990 Torrington M-11121

35961-52 Countershaft Open End Needle Bearing 1954 – 1990 Torrington B-1212

36799-84 Clutch Basket Ball bearing Late 1984 – 1990 NTN 6089Z (??)

37722-52 Clutch Basket Needle Bearing 1954 – 1970 Torrington B-229

37722-71 Clutch Basket Ball Bearing 1971 – Early 1984 Fafnir 206KDD or NSK 6206ZZ

45586-78 Steering Stem Neck bearings 1978 – 1981 Timken Race L44610 and Timken Bearing L44640

47098-81 Right Side Swingarm Bearings 1982 to Present Timken Race LM11710 and Timken Bearing LM11749

47521-74 Swingarm Bearings Late 1974 – 1981 Timken Race 11520 and Timken Bearing 11590

47550-74 Swingarm Bearings Early 1974 and Earlier Timken Race 17520 and Timken Bearing 17580

48300-60 Steering Stem neck Bearings 1982 to Present Timken Bearing L44643 and Timken Race L44610


NOTES, ETC:

On NSK bearings: “V” = rubber seal on one side; “V V” = rubber seal on both sides; “Z” = steel shield on one side; “ZZ” = steel
shield on both sides; “DU” = heavy contact seal one side; “DDU” = heavy contact seal both sides.
“Heavy Contact” = higher drag. Normally the “V V” seal is sufficient.
I have never seen “DW” on an NSK bearing.


Ball bearing mfgrs. all use their own numbering system, although many of them are similar to each other.
Fafnir: “P” = rubber seal, “KD” = steel shield, etc.
SKF: “RS” = rubber seal, “Z” = steel shield, etc.
No suffix = no seal or shield

Seals retain grease & exclude contaminants. Shields do not – they need an auxiliary seal to do that. Often ball bearings that
are sealed or shielded on both sides are cheaper (because they are more common). You can safely pry out the seal/shield on
the side where it’s not needed. I’ve listed mostly double sealed/shielded bearings in the chart. The “C3” designation on some ball
bearings a clearance designation (the clearance, or “fit”, between the balls & the outer race). “C3” bearings are common (probably
the most common), and can be used in many applications.
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Re: 8885 Harley bearing
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2018, 10:00:24 AM »

I don't get credit for this.  Wish I could remember from where it was liberated but have had it too long.  Question here made me remember it so a general "thanks" should go out across the ether and the interweb to the original author.  The 8885 is in the list.


8860 Steering Stem Neck Bearings 1954 -1977 5/16” Diameter Loose Ball Bearings

8871 Nippondenso Starter Drive End Bearing 1991-1994 1200’s and 1995 to Present All Models NSK 6002VV

8876A Five Speed Mainshaft and Countershaft All 1991Split Plastic Caged Needle Bearings Torrington TORR2079 (??)

8877 Nippondenso Starter Drive End Drive 1981-1994 All Models NSK 6002ZZ

8878 Nippondenso Starter Commutator End Bearing 1981-1985 XL 1000’s and 1986-1994 XL 883’s NSK608ZZ

8882 Nippondenso Starter Commutator End Bearing 1986-1990 All Models Superceded OEM Number 8880 on 1/95 NSK 608VV

8883 Nippondenso Starter Bearing Commutator End Bearing 1991-1994 1200’s and 1995 to Present All Models NSK 608VV

8885 Clutch Pressure Plate Bearing Late 1984 to Present Ripan SS NTN 6208

8888 C/S Low Gear Late 1984 – 1990 Torrington B110

8977 Countershaft Tranny Case Needle Bearing 1991 to Present  BK2526 (Germany) or INA BK2526

8996 Clutch Gear Trapdoor Bearing 1991-to Present  559197 (CANADA) or  6209 C3

9007 Generator Drive End Bearing 1958-1981  6202-ZR C3 or SKF 6202Z

9008 Rear Wheel Bearing 1955 – 1978 Front Wheel 1954 – 1963 NTN6203Z C3

9009 Front Wheel 1954 – 1972 Rear Wheel 1963 – 1978 Fafnir 203KD

9010 Rear Wheel Bearing (Double Row Brake Side) 1954 – 1962 MRC 5203SBKF, or use 1-NSK 6203 & 1-NSK 6203Z

9025A Four Speed Clutch Trapdoor Bearing 1954 – 1990 NTN 6207ZZ, Fafnir 207KDD, NTN 6207Z

9052 Front Wheel Bearing 1973 to Present and Rear Wheel Bearing 1979 to Present Timken Race LM11949 & Timken Bearing LM11910

9057 Cam Needle Bearings Late 1958 – 1990 Torrington B-117

9062 Starter Motor Gear Housing 1967 – 1980 M8101 or INA BCE810

9063 Primary Cover Starter Shaft Needle Bearing 1967 – 1980 Torrington B1210, INA S1210 or IKO BA1210Z

9073 Clutch Pressure Plate bearing 1971- Early 1984 and Prestolite Starter Motor Drive End Bearing Fafnir S8NPP or NSK R12VV same as OEM 31539-66)

9088 Generator Commutator End Needle Bearing 1958 – 1981 INA BCE89

9118 Mainshaft Tranny Case Late 1984 – to Present Torrington BH2012

18534-29A Tappet Roller 1957 – to Present Japan BRV4146 EOIIKOG (??)

24648-77 Right Crankcase Pinion Shaft bearing 1977 – 1986 (EV) Torrington Bearing HJ202816

24729-52 Left Crankcase Shaft bearing 1954 – 1976 Timken Race 0719D and a Torrington Bearing RA52340-1 (??)

24729-74 left crankcase Sprocket Shaft bearing 1977 – 1990 Timken Race L44610 and Timken Bearing L44649

29916-82 Hitachi Generator Commutator End Bearing1982 - Early 1984 NSK 6201VV

29917-82 Hitachi Generator Drive End bearing 1982 – Early 1984 NSK (325) 604DU (??)

31539-66 Prestolite Starter Motor Drive End Bearing 1967 – 1980 Fafnir S8PP or NSK R12VV

31583-73 Hitachi Starter Motor Drive End Bearing 1974 – 1976 NSK 6004VV

35051-89 Mainshaft Fifth Drive Gear Needle Bearings 1991 to Present  HK2520

35960-54 Countershaft Closed End Needle Bearing 1954 – 1990 Torrington M-11121

35961-52 Countershaft Open End Needle Bearing 1954 – 1990 Torrington B-1212

36799-84 Clutch Basket Ball bearing Late 1984 – 1990 NTN 6089Z (??)

37722-52 Clutch Basket Needle Bearing 1954 – 1970 Torrington B-229

37722-71 Clutch Basket Ball Bearing 1971 – Early 1984 Fafnir 206KDD or NSK 6206ZZ

45586-78 Steering Stem Neck bearings 1978 – 1981 Timken Race L44610 and Timken Bearing L44640

47098-81 Right Side Swingarm Bearings 1982 to Present Timken Race LM11710 and Timken Bearing LM11749

47521-74 Swingarm Bearings Late 1974 – 1981 Timken Race 11520 and Timken Bearing 11590

47550-74 Swingarm Bearings Early 1974 and Earlier Timken Race 17520 and Timken Bearing 17580

48300-60 Steering Stem neck Bearings 1982 to Present Timken Bearing L44643 and Timken Race L44610


NOTES, ETC:

On NSK bearings: “V” = rubber seal on one side; “V V” = rubber seal on both sides; “Z” = steel shield on one side; “ZZ” = steel
shield on both sides; “DU” = heavy contact seal one side; “DDU” = heavy contact seal both sides.
“Heavy Contact” = higher drag. Normally the “V V” seal is sufficient.
I have never seen “DW” on an NSK bearing.


Ball bearing mfgrs. all use their own numbering system, although many of them are similar to each other.
Fafnir: “P” = rubber seal, “KD” = steel shield, etc.
SKF: “RS” = rubber seal, “Z” = steel shield, etc.
No suffix = no seal or shield

Seals retain grease & exclude contaminants. Shields do not – they need an auxiliary seal to do that. Often ball bearings that
are sealed or shielded on both sides are cheaper (because they are more common). You can safely pry out the seal/shield on
the side where it’s not needed. I’ve listed mostly double sealed/shielded bearings in the chart. The “C3” designation on some ball
bearings a clearance designation (the clearance, or “fit”, between the balls & the outer race). “C3” bearings are common (probably
the most common), and can be used in many applications.
Thank you Don. How about I give you credit for posting it this time?

Got any color left in your parts? We were planning on going that way this weekend till we lost the clutch.
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Re: 8885 Harley bearing
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2018, 10:20:29 AM »

I don't get credit for this.  Wish I could remember from where it was liberated but have had it too long.  Question here made me remember it so a general "thanks" should go out across the ether and the interweb to the original author.  The 8885 is in the list.


8860 Steering Stem Neck Bearings 1954 -1977 5/16” Diameter Loose Ball Bearings

8871 Nippondenso Starter Drive End Bearing 1991-1994 1200’s and 1995 to Present All Models NSK 6002VV

8876A Five Speed Mainshaft and Countershaft All 1991Split Plastic Caged Needle Bearings Torrington TORR2079 (??)

8877 Nippondenso Starter Drive End Drive 1981-1994 All Models NSK 6002ZZ

8878 Nippondenso Starter Commutator End Bearing 1981-1985 XL 1000’s and 1986-1994 XL 883’s NSK608ZZ

8882 Nippondenso Starter Commutator End Bearing 1986-1990 All Models Superceded OEM Number 8880 on 1/95 NSK 608VV

8883 Nippondenso Starter Bearing Commutator End Bearing 1991-1994 1200’s and 1995 to Present All Models NSK 608VV

8885 Clutch Pressure Plate Bearing Late 1984 to Present Ripan SS NTN 6208

8888 C/S Low Gear Late 1984 – 1990 Torrington B110

8977 Countershaft Tranny Case Needle Bearing 1991 to Present  BK2526 (Germany) or INA BK2526

8996 Clutch Gear Trapdoor Bearing 1991-to Present  559197 (CANADA) or  6209 C3

9007 Generator Drive End Bearing 1958-1981  6202-ZR C3 or SKF 6202Z

9008 Rear Wheel Bearing 1955 – 1978 Front Wheel 1954 – 1963 NTN6203Z C3

9009 Front Wheel 1954 – 1972 Rear Wheel 1963 – 1978 Fafnir 203KD

9010 Rear Wheel Bearing (Double Row Brake Side) 1954 – 1962 MRC 5203SBKF, or use 1-NSK 6203 & 1-NSK 6203Z

9025A Four Speed Clutch Trapdoor Bearing 1954 – 1990 NTN 6207ZZ, Fafnir 207KDD, NTN 6207Z

9052 Front Wheel Bearing 1973 to Present and Rear Wheel Bearing 1979 to Present Timken Race LM11949 & Timken Bearing LM11910

9057 Cam Needle Bearings Late 1958 – 1990 Torrington B-117

9062 Starter Motor Gear Housing 1967 – 1980 M8101 or INA BCE810

9063 Primary Cover Starter Shaft Needle Bearing 1967 – 1980 Torrington B1210, INA S1210 or IKO BA1210Z

9073 Clutch Pressure Plate bearing 1971- Early 1984 and Prestolite Starter Motor Drive End Bearing Fafnir S8NPP or NSK R12VV same as OEM 31539-66)

9088 Generator Commutator End Needle Bearing 1958 – 1981 INA BCE89

9118 Mainshaft Tranny Case Late 1984 – to Present Torrington BH2012

18534-29A Tappet Roller 1957 – to Present Japan BRV4146 EOIIKOG (??)

24648-77 Right Crankcase Pinion Shaft bearing 1977 – 1986 (EV) Torrington Bearing HJ202816

24729-52 Left Crankcase Shaft bearing 1954 – 1976 Timken Race 0719D and a Torrington Bearing RA52340-1 (??)

24729-74 left crankcase Sprocket Shaft bearing 1977 – 1990 Timken Race L44610 and Timken Bearing L44649

29916-82 Hitachi Generator Commutator End Bearing1982 - Early 1984 NSK 6201VV

29917-82 Hitachi Generator Drive End bearing 1982 – Early 1984 NSK (325) 604DU (??)

31539-66 Prestolite Starter Motor Drive End Bearing 1967 – 1980 Fafnir S8PP or NSK R12VV

31583-73 Hitachi Starter Motor Drive End Bearing 1974 – 1976 NSK 6004VV

35051-89 Mainshaft Fifth Drive Gear Needle Bearings 1991 to Present  HK2520

35960-54 Countershaft Closed End Needle Bearing 1954 – 1990 Torrington M-11121

35961-52 Countershaft Open End Needle Bearing 1954 – 1990 Torrington B-1212

36799-84 Clutch Basket Ball bearing Late 1984 – 1990 NTN 6089Z (??)

37722-52 Clutch Basket Needle Bearing 1954 – 1970 Torrington B-229

37722-71 Clutch Basket Ball Bearing 1971 – Early 1984 Fafnir 206KDD or NSK 6206ZZ

45586-78 Steering Stem Neck bearings 1978 – 1981 Timken Race L44610 and Timken Bearing L44640

47098-81 Right Side Swingarm Bearings 1982 to Present Timken Race LM11710 and Timken Bearing LM11749

47521-74 Swingarm Bearings Late 1974 – 1981 Timken Race 11520 and Timken Bearing 11590

47550-74 Swingarm Bearings Early 1974 and Earlier Timken Race 17520 and Timken Bearing 17580

48300-60 Steering Stem neck Bearings 1982 to Present Timken Bearing L44643 and Timken Race L44610


NOTES, ETC:

On NSK bearings: “V” = rubber seal on one side; “V V” = rubber seal on both sides; “Z” = steel shield on one side; “ZZ” = steel
shield on both sides; “DU” = heavy contact seal one side; “DDU” = heavy contact seal both sides.
“Heavy Contact” = higher drag. Normally the “V V” seal is sufficient.
I have never seen “DW” on an NSK bearing.


Ball bearing mfgrs. all use their own numbering system, although many of them are similar to each other.
Fafnir: “P” = rubber seal, “KD” = steel shield, etc.
SKF: “RS” = rubber seal, “Z” = steel shield, etc.
No suffix = no seal or shield

Seals retain grease & exclude contaminants. Shields do not – they need an auxiliary seal to do that. Often ball bearings that
are sealed or shielded on both sides are cheaper (because they are more common). You can safely pry out the seal/shield on
the side where it’s not needed. I’ve listed mostly double sealed/shielded bearings in the chart. The “C3” designation on some ball
bearings a clearance designation (the clearance, or “fit”, between the balls & the outer race). “C3” bearings are common (probably
the most common), and can be used in many applications.

Don, I not so sure on the 8885 cross to the 6208 bearing. I'll do a little checking when I get to work but typically the last 2 numbers × 5 will give you the bearing bore in MM. That would make that bearing a 40mm bore. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet but my first guess is the 8885 is going to be like 10mm bore.

Edit...
Don, maybe a typo from original poster but the 8885 HD is a NTN 6200. The 6200 will cross over to whatever brand is your preferred brand. 10MM ID x 30MM OD x 9MM Wide
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Re: 8885 Harley bearing
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2018, 07:40:05 PM »

Don, I not so sure on the 8885 cross to the 6208 bearing. I'll do a little checking when I get to work but typically the last 2 numbers × 5 will give you the bearing bore in MM. That would make that bearing a 40mm bore. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet but my first guess is the 8885 is going to be like 10mm bore.

Edit...
Don, maybe a typo from original poster but the 8885 HD is a NTN 6200. The 6200 will cross over to whatever brand is your preferred brand. 10MM ID x 30MM OD x 9MM Wide

Good catch. I just edited the original so no one else will get ripped up in the future. :2vrolijk_21:
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2018, 07:41:30 PM »

Thank you Don. How about I give you credit for posting it this time?

Got any color left in your parts? We were planning on going that way this weekend till we lost the clutch.

Almost nothing here. A few individual tree stand out but they are outliers. We went from too warm to too cool to suddenly.
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Re: 8885 Harley bearing
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2018, 10:26:41 PM »

Almost nothing here. A few individual tree stand out but they are outliers. We went from too warm to too cool to suddenly.

We were out Saturday when the clutch went away but it looked like a long as we were south of 412 we were finding areas with a little color, but other areas that hadn't even tried to turn yet. It will probably turn out this year where we will wake one morning and the wind will have cleared the trees out.
Thank you for the cheat sheet. I have it copied and saved.
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Re: 8885 Harley bearing
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2018, 11:18:42 PM »

Don, I not so sure on the 8885 cross to the 6208 bearing. I'll do a little checking when I get to work but typically the last 2 numbers × 5 will give you the bearing bore in MM. That would make that bearing a 40mm bore. I haven't had a chance to look at it yet but my first guess is the 8885 is going to be like 10mm bore.

Edit...
Don, maybe a typo from original poster but the 8885 HD is a NTN 6200. The 6200 will cross over to whatever brand is your preferred brand. 10MM ID x 30MM OD x 9MM Wide
A NTN is a Japan made bearing it is a high quality bearing skf  would be my second choice

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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2018, 12:27:12 PM »

A NTN is a Japan made bearing it is a high quality bearing skf  would be my second choice

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Probably several different manufacturers that could provide a quality bearing. I am just a little partial to SKF because I deal with their stuff almost daily and am able to get them overnight if the local bearing house doesn't have them on shelf
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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2018, 08:22:01 PM »

We were out Saturday when the clutch went away but it looked like a long as we were south of 412 we were finding areas with a little color, but other areas that hadn't even tried to turn yet. It will probably turn out this year where we will wake one morning and the wind will have cleared the trees out.
Thank you for the cheat sheet. I have it copied and saved.

Thinking the same thing on the colors.  A tree here and there are nice.  Most not.  Some fell with no color at all and it looks like most of the rest will do the same.  Mother nature was boring this fall.
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