www.CVOHARLEY.com

CVO Technical => Wheels/Tires/Suspension/Brakes => Topic started by: mjb765 on July 06, 2020, 12:43:27 PM

Title: Suspension upgrade
Post by: mjb765 on July 06, 2020, 12:43:27 PM
So after riding around on my new 2020 RG Limited I have noticed how much better the suspension is compared to my 15 CVO Street Glide. Is it the street glide to road glide comparison or is it that the Street Glide is almost 6 years old and things get weak? I am thinking it's time to upgrade the front and rear suspension on the 15.  I don't need the best of the best....but what am I using--Ohlins front and rear, Legends, etc? Front and rear should match--no?
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: hd-dude on July 06, 2020, 12:56:16 PM
Legends! Lifetime warranty, great shocks. Never had a complaint from the hundreds that we have sold and installed!
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: mjb765 on July 06, 2020, 01:14:33 PM
Legends! Lifetime warranty, great shocks. Never had a complaint from the hundreds that we have sold and installed!

Axeo on the front I guess?
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: KGB on July 06, 2020, 02:32:17 PM
I used the FKC102 cartridges on the front and the HD772 Blackline shocks in the rear on my 2016 CVO Street Glide, it road like a different bike afterwords.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: hd-dude on July 06, 2020, 04:29:48 PM
Axeo on the front I guess?

Yes!
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: Cvostu on July 06, 2020, 07:38:07 PM
Legend.  Never looked back.  👍 Stuart.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: DOCGSS on July 07, 2020, 06:59:19 AM
For the rear on my 2020 CVO Street Glide I used the Russ Wernimont Designs shocks and I cannot believe how good these shocks are. I have used the top of the line Ohlins on my previous CVO, these simply blow away any other shocks I have used. It felt as if I changed my seat as well. Matt Laidlaw has a video on them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sqQMrZ3lF8

Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on July 08, 2020, 07:07:05 AM
For the rear on my 2020 CVO Street Glide I used the Russ Wernimont Designs shocks and I cannot believe how good these shocks are. I have used the top of the line Ohlins on my previous CVO, these simply blow away any other shocks I have used. It felt as if I changed my seat as well. Matt Laidlaw has a video on them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sqQMrZ3lF8

No problem with the remote resivore interfering with the plugs that go in the rear of each bag?
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: DOCGSS on July 08, 2020, 07:21:01 AM
None whatsoever. It also has a arm that rotates the reservoir away from the bags. You have to order the correct set. They are the best shocks I have ever used. Bar none
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: rayson56 on July 08, 2020, 11:32:31 AM
Legend Revo A's for me. I went from the stock 12" to the 13" as many here have done. Amazing difference!
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: 1roadking on July 08, 2020, 08:43:17 PM
I had RevoA H-D Version shocks and now have the Fox IFP-R shocks H-D Version and I prefer the Fox IFP-R by a lot. They are much smoother on small stuff and still resist bottoming very well on large hits. However I’m not sure about the Fox front cart rides in H-D yet. They seem really good 2 up but too stiff 1 up. I’m giving them a few thousand miles to settle in before I make a real decision on them.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: mjb765 on July 08, 2020, 09:19:19 PM
Probably going with the Revo's...thanks for all the opinions.....going to do the rears on the 2020 RG Limited and front and rear on the CVO SG
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: rayson56 on July 08, 2020, 10:34:06 PM
Good call ^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on July 09, 2020, 06:33:23 AM
None whatsoever. It also has a arm that rotates the reservoir away from the bags. You have to order the correct set. They are the best shocks I have ever used. Bar none

Curious as what makes them so much better than all the others?  I currently run Ohlin on one bike, 134 inch and really like them a lot.  I have legends in the front of that bike.  Was looking and legends all around for this bike.

I watched the video, I like the idea of smooth.  However I am more of the guy that runs the corners or canyons as he says, so my Öhlins are set a bit firm.

What ever I do they will be 13 inch shocks, extra travel helps.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: DOCGSS on July 09, 2020, 06:52:02 AM
Curious as what makes them so much better than all the others?  I currently run Ohlin on one bike, 134 inch and really like them a lot.  I have legends in the front of that bike.  Was looking and legends all around for this bike.

I watched the video, I like the idea of smooth.  However I am more of the guy that runs the corners or canyons as he says, so my Öhlins are set a bit firm.

What ever I do they will be 13 inch shocks, extra travel helps.

I also got the 13" shocks. I ride the same as you. These shocks are almost magic. On the street with rough roads they are luxurious ride, in the twistys they are keep the rear planted, and I have never bottomed out even once. I called and talked to them before I bought and their description sounded too good to be true. I was impressed. My Ohlins HD 357 I thought was wonderful but frankly this is way beyond. You can set the shocks for whatever type of ride you want, but from the factory it was awesome and I did nothing but set the sag.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: CAmike on July 17, 2020, 04:00:22 AM
I used the FKC102 cartridges on the front and the HD772 Blackline shocks in the rear on my 2016 CVO Street Glide, it road like a different bike afterwords.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I have the same setup on my 15 CVO Roadglide and agree it road like a different bike.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: whoop72 on July 20, 2020, 08:44:49 PM
Bought an 18 DVO RG a year ago, and found the stock shocks to be extremely rough.  Based upon all of the good reports on the Legends, I went with the REVOs front and back.  While definitely an improvement over stock, I find them to still be very hard going over rough roads.  I traded a number of emails with Legend, trying to get them tuned in, but still find them very harsh on rough roads.  Disappointing for me.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: rat tail on July 22, 2020, 07:34:03 PM
I just replaced the factory rear shocks on my 2019 CVO Mako shark fade road glide with Bitubos And  so far extremely pleased
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: TN on July 22, 2020, 08:30:22 PM
I just replaced the factory rear shocks on my 2019 CVO Mako shark fade road glide with Bitubos And  so far extremely pleased

I'm happy with my bitubos also.  :orange:
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: kojak on August 02, 2020, 12:34:45 PM
Tempted. The stock shocks on my cvo are pretty darn good though,  can push the bike hard enough through the twisties to scrape the floorboards riding 2 up. Today, I took the bike on some rough and tumble sections of I-81 under construction and the bike felt planted at high speeds.

For the rear on my 2020 CVO Street Glide I used the Russ Wernimont Designs shocks and I cannot believe how good these shocks are. I have used the top of the line Ohlins on my previous CVO, these simply blow away any other shocks I have used. It felt as if I changed my seat as well. Matt Laidlaw has a video on them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sqQMrZ3lF8
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: mjb765 on August 02, 2020, 09:11:39 PM
Happy with the Legends I put on the back of my 2020 Road Glide....Should be doing front and rear on the CVO Street Glide at some point.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: hd-dude on August 03, 2020, 01:23:04 PM
Happy with the Legends I put on the back of my 2020 Road Glide....Should be doing front and rear on the CVO Street Glide in the next few weeks.

 :2vrolijk_21: Glad you like them Mike!
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: Timinfla2 on October 12, 2020, 10:28:41 PM
Well shucks, doesn’t seem to be a clear winner here.  I’m looking to upgrade my stock 2018 CVO RG suspension all around and it looks like there’s been some good experiences all around.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: CVODON on October 14, 2020, 05:46:50 PM
Although any shock asborber is a wear item. I had heard so I asked the Ohlins sales guy at Daytona a couple years ago and Ohlin does recommend a rebuild around 20k. I can't remember the cost but it was several hundred dollars and of course you had to ship them back for this procedure. Being rebuildable is great, at 20k seems not so great to me.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: KGB on October 14, 2020, 07:55:19 PM
Although any shock asborber is a wear item. I had heard so I asked the Ohlins sales guy at Daytona a couple years ago and Ohlin does recommend a rebuild around 20k. I can't remember the cost but it was several hundred dollars and of course you had to ship them back for this procedure. Being rebuildable is great, at 20k seems not so great to me.

I had about 36K on my Ohlins, they felt like there was no damping, so I shipped them off to Ohlins and almost $400.00 latter I had a new set again (that price included shipping to and back to me) I think next time I may look into another brand.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: OBB on October 14, 2020, 10:27:36 PM
I had about 36K on my Ohlins, they felt like there was no damping, so I shipped them off to Ohlins and almost $400.00 latter I had a new set again (that price included shipping to and back to me) I think next time I may look into another brand.
Had mine done locally for $327.  That place down on South Main below Akron by the reservoir.

Sent from my boring Droid phone.

Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: KGB on October 15, 2020, 01:37:00 AM
Had mine done locally for $327.  That place down on South Main below Akron by the reservoir.

Sent from my boring Droid phone.
Same money minus the shipping


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: CVODON on October 15, 2020, 05:53:18 PM
$327 for a couple seals, possibly some nitrogen & some oil with labor? Ouch!
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: FLSTFI Dave on October 16, 2020, 06:23:30 AM
I have had mine rebuilt twice.  I believe right a 250 each time.  They had just over 30K miles on them each time.  Ohlin has a booth at dayton bike week and they rebuild then there.  Ride in, the remove your shocks, install loaners.  They call when done and you come back and they install your shocks again. 
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: hd-dude on October 16, 2020, 06:41:44 PM
Legends have a Lifetime warranty and only charge for shipping to get them rebuilt.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: KGB on October 16, 2020, 07:03:18 PM
Legends have a Lifetime warranty and only charge for shipping to get them rebuilt.
Looks like Legends next time


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: dayne66 on October 17, 2020, 11:24:49 AM
Looks like Legends next time


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Much difference in ride / handling between Ohlins and Legends?

Anyone experience both?
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: Joel on October 17, 2020, 12:04:40 PM
My wife will be having a back surgery in a couple weeks.
And wanting to change the rear shocks to absorb those harsh jolts.
Will the Legends do what I want to accomplish?
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: OBB on October 17, 2020, 12:54:34 PM
Legends have a Lifetime warranty and only charge for shipping to get them rebuilt.
Any idea how often this needs to be done?

Sent from my boring Droid phone.

Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: Powermaker on November 19, 2020, 03:52:09 PM
Any idea how often this needs to be done?

Sent from my boring Droid phone.

I'm curious as well.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: rayson56 on November 19, 2020, 04:31:09 PM
My wife will be having a back surgery in a couple weeks.
And wanting to change the rear shocks to absorb those harsh jolts.
Will the Legends do what I want to accomplish?

I see it's been about a month since your post, hopefully her surgery was a success. Yes Joel, Legends will make you both very happy but make sure you get the 13" Revo A's and set the sag properly and start out at 3 for rebound. It was a night and day difference for me, and my BSR actually enjoys the ride now. Checking the sag from time to time will keep your ride and handling top notch as well.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: jc15025 on November 19, 2020, 10:07:07 PM

 Check Pro Action Shocks, they have a limited lifetime warranty

My wife will be having a back surgery in a couple weeks.
And wanting to change the rear shocks to absorb those harsh jolts.
Will the Legends do what I want to accomplish?
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: Joel on November 20, 2020, 10:16:37 AM
The wife's surgery was October 26th,  and it's been a tough few weeks. But also better each day.
Doctor said that it went very well and post op x-rays look exactly how he wanted.
Along with stating up to 18 months for a full recovery gives me plenty of time to sit on the fence and decide what brand of shocks to get.
The OE air shocks are ok for me as a solo rider, but I believe that an upgrade is needed.
I will see if the Indy that I know more on a business relationship than a service location will let me cruise on his ride for a comparison,  he sells Legend and installs many sets each season.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: dayne66 on November 20, 2020, 11:19:25 AM
I have heard good things about Super Shox also. For me, I'm gonna have to wait until the border is open for travel as I want to buy and get them (no decision on brand made yet) installed in the US for substantial savings!
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: Joel on November 20, 2020, 04:23:25 PM
If I remember right the Super Shox have a lifetime warranty with a 30 day money back guarantee,
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: kojak on January 27, 2021, 06:12:30 PM
Just put them on my 2016 cvo sg, huge ride improvement!
I also got the 13" shocks. I ride the same as you. These shocks are almost magic. On the street with rough roads they are luxurious ride, in the twistys they are keep the rear planted, and I have never bottomed out even once. I called and talked to them before I bought and their description sounded too good to be true. I was impressed. My Ohlins HD 357 I thought was wonderful but frankly this is way beyond. You can set the shocks for whatever type of ride you want, but from the factory it was awesome and I did nothing but set the sag.
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: 2019CVONH on February 06, 2021, 08:28:02 AM
For the rear on my 2020 CVO Street Glide I used the Russ Wernimont Designs shocks and I cannot believe how good these shocks are. I have used the top of the line Ohlins on my previous CVO, these simply blow away any other shocks I have used. It felt as if I changed my seat as well. Matt Laidlaw has a video on them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sqQMrZ3lF8
I have these shocks in the 13” non-heavy duty version. These are really soft shocks!! I’m 205 and my wife is 125. It’s my opinion that in two up configuration like us, that the HD shocks should have been purchased because we’ve bottomed out before quite a few times. Ok so you say adjust your springs. I have exposed about 1.5” of shock screwing the spring rate up so that it rides well. This again is without having the tourpac on nor loaded. When the wife and I did a trip last year we had the tourpac loaded and bags and we bottomed out too many times to count and I was pissed. The springs are just too soft.

Now, the ride these give going over moderate bumps is incredibly nice like a Caddy. But if you hit that one section in the road where they put too much blacktop and bam your going to bottom out. I’m going to call the company and see if I can upgrade to the heavy duty springs.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: 2019CVONH on February 06, 2021, 08:49:54 AM
No problem with the remote resivore interfering with the plugs that go in the rear of each bag?
None at all I have these and installed them myself. The belly of the bike just needs to be supported and it’s easy


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: Suspension upgrade
Post by: 2019CVONH on February 06, 2021, 10:39:01 AM
Tempted. The stock shocks on my cvo are pretty darn good though,  can push the bike hard enough through the twisties to scrape the floorboards riding 2 up. Today, I took the bike on some rough and tumble sections of I-81 under construction and the bike felt planted at high speeds.
Hey Kojac, run up 88 a bit from Bainbridge. I said I’d never travel that Fking road again. There are heaves in that highway that completely bottomed my bike out all the way up until i got on 787N. I came over 206 from Ithaca. I’ll do 20 into Duanesburg from now on until they rebuild that road. Holy CRAP!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk