Business side of bike shows the new (although discontinued) V&H Q series pipes. While at rally week, I stopped by the V&H exhibit and asked the rep if they would be making flame tips for this exhaust. He informed me that was unlikely because they had been discontinued due to lack of interest. He said, "nobody wants quieter pipes on their Harley!" Well, sad to say, I am one of those guys. The engine mods from owner # 1 made the bike too loud for my neighborhood so I set out to quiet it down a bit. I am very pleased with the sound and the look (although I would like flame tips). I would wager that it is still louder than stock but no longer wakes the dead. Cuthbertss out in Colorado was kind enough to relieve me of the V&H straight shots that came off. Interestingly enough, they are now on his FXDWG2 so they remain a CVO upgrade.