Topic: Cooling Fans (Read 3760 times)

Mountainman streetbob · « **on:** October 01, 2019, 11:59:58 AM »

WELL I can not find Jason Wards cooling fans anywhere. I assume he is out of business?

I see Love Jugs has copied them?

Any suggestions?

From what i read i really dont want to reward love jugs for being pricks against a fellow Vet.

Would love suggestions, ideas, first hand accounts...

Thanks

Ironhorse · « **Reply #1 on:** October 01, 2019, 12:53:00 PM »

Jason is out of business. I have tried emailing and calling him. Both were dead leads. You can buy "a similar design" over at LoveJuggs.

Major Tom · « **Reply #2 on:** October 01, 2019, 06:07:30 PM »

G’day Mountainman Streetbob,

I had Wards on Lucille & one of the fans died. As they have gone out of business I looked atbb Bn other options as I am not a fan of love jugs ( pun intended).

Lucille is a 2015 FLTRUSE & I put HD
CoolFlow Fan Part Number 26800128 on & it works at least as well a the wards without having fans hanging off the side of the motor.

It basically sucks the air off the back cylinder & pushes it to the road. Cooler on my right leg & nads.

The catalogue says 2017 & up but it works fine on Lucille. I have no idea what year you are looking at but It’s worth having a look.

Cheers Tom

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trippy · « **Reply #3 on:** October 01, 2019, 06:57:49 PM »

Love jugs bought the design, they market them as "Mighty mites", I have them on my 2007 cvo RK 113cu stage 4, they are so effective that if was to switch them on at start up my bike would take forever to come off its cold start settings.

One of my best buys.

Rooster · « **Reply #4 on:** October 02, 2019, 10:03:08 AM »

I recently found one of Wards fans business cards but as op said out of business. been happy with mine.

JKM · « **Reply #5 on:** October 02, 2019, 01:57:34 PM »

There is also the pricey Jims Force Flow that replaces the horn and provide a fan and horn in one unit
https://www.jpcycles.com/product/562-885/jims-black-forceflow-cylinder-head-fan-kit

TN · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2019, 03:57:41 PM »

I was never a fan of the fans

I installed the mighty mites this year and I wouldn't have an air cooled Harley without them now. The data I logged proved to me without a doubt they work.

I can't wait for the liquid cooled Indian challenger comes to market. A true water cooled engine.

Scott7d · « **Reply #7 on:** October 04, 2019, 08:16:00 PM »

I added the Love Jugs Mighty Mite fans and painted them granite to match the motor. I don't care for the looks much so this helped them blend in better.

I ride 25,000-30,000 miles a year with a group of other friends all over the country. I have the biggest motor at the highest compression (11:1). EVERY bike except for mine will drop down to one cylinder on hot days at stoplights. My bike frequently dropped to one cylinder before these fans. I even had to ask my tuner if he disabled EITMS at some point because it never kicked on.

I don't have quantitative data as far as temperatures, but my experiences in the saddle tell me they work.

skratch · « **Reply #8 on:** October 04, 2019, 09:49:54 PM »

Quote from: trippy on October 01, 2019, 06:57:49 PM

Love jugs bought the design, they market them as "Mighty mites",

just a small correction. love jugs did not 'buy' the design. they claimed they had a patent prior to ward developing his fans, so sicked their lawyers on him.

trippy · « **Reply #9 on:** October 05, 2019, 04:34:29 PM »

I stand corrected,A bit surprised, I remember seeing the Wards Fans a long time before I ever saw the Love jugs Mighty mites, But they are still a great set of fans, Really cannot see the need for the larger Love Jugs.

davidw221 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 06, 2019, 08:16:46 PM »

Love jugs sued Jason Ward, who at the time was active duty military, LJ got the patient on the same fan as Jason Ward, then had his Lawyers tell Jason to
ceast and exist with the fans, which Jason had to comply, I worte about this LJ came after me saying I was lying. I just don't like crooks screwing the honest guy trying to make an honest buck, you make you mind up on the type of fan you would buy!

Scott7d · « **Reply #11 on:** October 06, 2019, 10:18:01 PM »

Quote from: davidw221 on October 06, 2019, 08:16:46 PM

Love jugs sued Jason Ward, who at the time was active duty military, LJ got the patient on the same fan as Jason Ward, then had his Lawyers tell Jason to
ceast and exist with the fans, which Jason had to comply, I worte about this LJ came after me saying I was lying. I just don't like crooks screwing the honest guy trying to make an honest buck, you make you mind up on the type of fan you would buy!

Wards were my first choice, but they were out of business by the time I was ready to buy, and there were none out there used.

I hate supporting someone like that, but unfortunately had a need for his product

trippy · « **Reply #12 on:** October 07, 2019, 08:17:32 AM »

Davidw221, I 100% agree with you on this, as I said , I am sure I saw the Ward fans quite some time before the bigger "love jugs" cam out let alone the smaller ones "Mighty mites".

Theft is theft no problem with that but if 2 people come up with a similar design at the same time, which is very possible like you I dont like to see the big guy step on the smaller guy, just because he is bigger and has more money to pay for lawyers.

grc · « **Reply #13 on:** October 07, 2019, 08:33:50 AM »

Quote from: Major Tom on October 01, 2019, 06:07:30 PM

G’day Mountainman Streetbob,

I had Wards on Lucille & one of the fans died. As they have gone out of business I looked atbb Bn other options as I am not a fan of love jugs ( pun intended).

Lucille is a 2015 FLTRUSE & I put HD
CoolFlow Fan Part Number 26800128 on & it works at least as well a the wards without having fans hanging off the side of the motor.

It basically sucks the air off the back cylinder & pushes it to the road. Cooler on my right leg & nads.

The catalogue says 2017 & up but it works fine on Lucille. I have no idea what year you are looking at but It’s worth having a look.

Cheers Tom

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The two products serve different purposes. The Wards fans directed air at the hottest part of the engine, effectively reducing actual head temperatures. The Harley fan is strictly for reducing rider discomfort by redirecting hot air from the rear cylinder away from the riders legs. It doesn't reduce engine temperatures.

JMHO - Jerry

Major Tom · « **Reply #14 on:** October 07, 2019, 08:43:56 AM »

Thanks Jerry,

That makes sense.

Cheers Tom

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Hondo2doc · « **Reply #15 on:** October 07, 2019, 09:58:39 AM »

This is what I was able to learn. Still can’t say it’s rock solid concrete fact, but.

Love jugs applied for and received a utility and a design patent on a 2 fan cooling system before Wards was around. And I might add getting a patent on anything ain’t easy. I have 2 patents on my business products and it’s expensive.

I am a fan of Wards fans, had them on my 2015 SESG they worked great.

And yes Jason did invent the “compact” design. Problem was LJ already had the 2 style fan patented. So Wards was kinda in trouble from the start.

Wards “compact” design was ingenious, but it was still a 2 fan style which LJ held the patent for. So LJ decides to make their “mighty mite” of course based on Wards design. And then tells Wards to cease and desist, which Wards has to.

I don’t really know if their is a bad guy in this story imho.

I haven’t used LJ yet but ordering them for my S&S 124ci.

One last thing from what I have read LJ made their mighty mite a more serviceable product being able to replace if needed an individual fan or switch yourself.

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Scott7d · « **Reply #16 on:** October 07, 2019, 08:15:15 PM »

Quote from: Hondo2doc on October 07, 2019, 09:58:39 AM

One last thing from what I have read LJ made their mighty mite a more serviceable product being able to replace if needed an individual fan or switch yourself.

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I had a fan go out on my Mighty Mites. They sent me a fan at no charge. The actual time to remove and replace the fan was probably less than a minute. Other than that, just the time needed to remove and reattach the whole unit back to the bike. I've since bought their frame mount which reduces the vibration drastically. Even at idle they hardly move.

bigchuck · « **Reply #17 on:** October 08, 2019, 02:07:22 AM »

Quote from: Scott7d on October 04, 2019, 08:16:00 PM

I added the Love Jugs Mighty Mite fans and painted them granite to match the motor. I don't care for the looks much so this helped them blend in better.

I ride 25,000-30,000 miles a year with a group of other friends all over the country. I have the biggest motor at the highest compression (11:1). EVERY bike except for mine will drop down to one cylinder on hot days at stoplights. My bike frequently dropped to one cylinder before these fans. I even had to ask my tuner if he disabled EITMS at some point because it never kicked on.

I don't have quantitative data as far as temperatures, but my experiences in the saddle tell me they work.

That is a beautiful bike but I'm sorry those fans are still ugly as hell.

Scott7d · « **Reply #18 on:** October 09, 2019, 07:12:27 PM »

Quote from: bigchuck on October 08, 2019, 02:07:22 AM

That is a beautiful bike but I'm sorry those fans are still ugly as hell.

Here's the thing.....I agree with you 100%. I am used to them now but I'm sure other people see them and go, "huh?!".

It was a style sacrifice that I feel will be worth it in the long run. The odometer proves it's a touring bike, not a show bike.

longlast · « **Reply #19 on:** October 10, 2019, 05:49:55 AM »

Made my own fans run at 47,000rpm (not a typo). They work great keeping the temperature down the one down side is the inner part of your right leg gets the grunt of the heat being blown out you have to lift your leg when stopped.

bigchuck · « **Reply #20 on:** October 12, 2019, 12:18:40 PM »

Quote from: Scott7d on October 09, 2019, 07:12:27 PM

Here's the thing.....I agree with you 100%. I am used to them now but I'm sure other people see them and go, "huh?!".

It was a style sacrifice that I feel will be worth it in the long run. The odometer proves it's a touring bike, not a show bike.

I understand completely. Like I said it is a great looking bike and I'm sure along with the stereo system it turns a lot of heads. What are those 6.5's in the lowers? Nice job.

Scott7d · « **Reply #21 on:** October 12, 2019, 04:27:27 PM »

Quote from: bigchuck on October 12, 2019, 12:18:40 PM

What are those 6.5's in the lowers? Nice job.

Just the stock 5.25".

Mountainman streetbob · « **Reply #22 on:** October 12, 2019, 05:43:05 PM »

Quote from: longlast on October 10, 2019, 05:49:55 AM

Made my own fans run at 47,000rpm (not a typo). They work great keeping the temperature down the one down side is the inner part of your right leg gets the grunt of the heat being
blown out you have to lift your leg when stopped.

VERY INTERESTED WHERE TO FIND FANS LIKE THESE

INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW!!

LOVE HOW IT LOOKS!

LOVED MY WARDS

WILL NOT REWARD LOVE JUGS FOR BEING JERKS!

REALLY WOULD KNOW WHERE TO SOURCE FANS LIKE THIS!

LOVE IT

BRICE

HD Street Performance · « **Reply #23 on:** October 13, 2019, 09:35:59 AM »

The 2013 CVO RK came with an Ipod stereo system FYI. I learned the benefits and the downside to the fans first trip to sturgis. They blow all the heat right up at you. I did notice a dramatic difference in both head and oil temperatures.

Mountainman streetbob · « **Reply #24 on:** October 13, 2019, 09:50:02 AM »

Quote from: grc on October 07, 2019, 08:33:50 AM

The two products serve different purposes. The Wards fans directed air at the hottest part of the engine, effectively reducing actual head temperatures. The Harley fan is strictly for reducing rider discomfort by redirecting hot air from the rear cylinder away from the riders legs. It doesn't reduce engine temperatures.

JMHO - Jerry

CHEERS MATE! THANKS FOR THE INFO!!!

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