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New tow vehicle
« on: April 15, 2018, 04:17:39 PM »

Picked up a new tow vehicle. 2018 High Country Duramax. I wasn't in the market for a truck however the opportunity came up and I took it. This is just another step toward purchasing our fifth wheel of choice.
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2018, 04:21:46 PM »

It is more truck than we need for our tag along toy hauler. I still have to set the hitch up. I just pulled it from my 15 and went on my way. I'm guessing the receiver is a few inches low. My 15 setup was spot on as that camper didn't move at any speed I traveled.
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2018, 04:23:31 PM »

I had the cap painted to match. I still need to earn a living with my truck....
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2018, 04:24:37 PM »

A departure from a black interior.
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2018, 05:21:47 PM »

Very nice...Congrats...
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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2018, 06:41:42 PM »

When only the best will do! Nice rig Mike.  :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2018, 07:33:04 AM »

Very nice.Only way it could have been better is if it was a FORD....LOL
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2018, 08:26:33 AM »

Very nice.Only way it could have been better is if it was a FORD....LOL
Lol. I think the Ford is the best looking 1 ton out there right now. I ran a Ford Dually for ten years, a good old 7.3. The new ones are to tall for me. I'm getting older and jumping in and out of the beds is getting harder. I leveled my last truck and quickly realized how much taller I made it. So this one is going to sit as delivered or so I keep telling myself.
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2018, 09:46:09 AM »

Nice truck and great interior.  I'm a BIG fan of the brown'ish interiors they're using in most of the vehicles today.  My wife doesn't care for it as much.

I do have an observation/question.

I'm two years from retiring and I plan on getting a "used" truck and need to be able to pull a fifth wheel toy hauler.

I've been to RV shows and the general consensus is that a 2500HD will haul/pull a dual axle without much issue.  And a 3500HD will take just about any triple axle made.  Is this a good assumption?  I know that when it's time to buy a toy hauler, it's going to be sized correctly to what I have for a truck, but just wondering about 2500HD versus 3500HD.

Again very nice new wheels!
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2018, 03:03:12 PM »

Lol. I think the Ford is the best looking 1 ton out there right now. I ran a Ford Dually for ten years, a good old 7.3. The new ones are to tall for me. I'm getting older and jumping in and out of the beds is getting harder. I leveled my last truck and quickly realized how much taller I made it. So this one is going to sit as delivered or so I keep telling myself.
Well, you could always add some Dirty Air to it ;D
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2018, 07:32:12 PM »

I'm two years from retiring and I plan on getting a "used" truck and need to be able to pull a fifth wheel toy hauler.

I've been to RV shows and the general consensus is that a 2500HD will haul/pull a dual axle without much issue.  And a 3500HD will take just about any triple axle made.  Is this a good assumption?  I know that when it's time to buy a toy hauler, it's going to be sized correctly to what I have for a truck, but just wondering about 2500HD versus 3500HD.

Again very nice new wheels!

It will all depend on the year of the truck(s). They keep making them lighter and upping the tow capacity. When you are ready research the truck of choice and its towing ability.
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2018, 08:17:32 PM »

Very nice. Been looking at 2500 duramax trucks but the sticker shock is insane. Our 1/2 ton Silverado will be paid off next month and going to a new truck payment is kinda scary, even though we are looking at toy haulers.
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2018, 08:26:00 PM »

Tows the toy hauler without issue...
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2018, 08:37:18 AM »

Nice truck and great interior.  I'm a BIG fan of the brown'ish interiors they're using in most of the vehicles today.  My wife doesn't care for it as much.

I do have an observation/question.

I'm two years from retiring and I plan on getting a "used" truck and need to be able to pull a fifth wheel toy hauler.

I've been to RV shows and the general consensus is that a 2500HD will haul/pull a dual axle without much issue.  And a 3500HD will take just about any triple axle made.  Is this a good assumption?  I know that when it's time to buy a toy hauler, it's going to be sized correctly to what I have for a truck, but just wondering about 2500HD versus 3500HD.

Again very nice new wheels!

The issue with 2500's is not what they can pull, but rather carrying capacity.  I would think its the same now was it was when I bought my last dually.  I did not need a 1 ton for the 12000 pound trailer weight.  I need it to carry my wife, my three children and our dogs.  Payload on the 3/4 tons were 2000 pounds when I looked.  I had 1200 pounds of hitch weight 320 for my wife and I.  300  pounds for 3 children.  Our Dane was 195 pounds and the lab was 70 pounds.  So 3/4 would not work, and also left no weight room to carry a cooler or firewood in the truck, or the generator. 

Getting the 1 ton worked out well, it enabled my to take a Harley on our family vacations also.

The 1/2 ton I have now is rated to pull 11700 pounds.  Not sure how you could do it, as me and the wife and tung weight of a trailer that heavy would exceed the payload of the truck.
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2018, 09:36:36 AM »

Lol. I think the Ford is the best looking 1 ton out there right now. I ran a Ford Dually for ten years, a good old 7.3. The new ones are to tall for me. I'm getting older and jumping in and out of the beds is getting harder. I leveled my last truck and quickly realized how much taller I made it. So this one is going to sit as delivered or so I keep telling myself.

I have air ride on my DRW now, the truck is always level, no matter the load. But comparing to the new trucks, all three, they are getting a bit ridiculous in the height department.
And it is not just suspension height, the beds have taller sides now as well.

At the last Jersey camp we did (that you couldn't make) I parked my 2011 DRW truck next to my buddies 2017 450, His truck was 4" higher !

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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2018, 09:49:46 AM »

Nice truck and great interior.  I'm a BIG fan of the brown'ish interiors they're using in most of the vehicles today.  My wife doesn't care for it as much.

I do have an observation/question.

I'm two years from retiring and I plan on getting a "used" truck and need to be able to pull a fifth wheel toy hauler.

I've been to RV shows and the general consensus is that a 2500HD will haul/pull a dual axle without much issue.  And a 3500HD will take just about any triple axle made.  Is this a good assumption?  I know that when it's time to buy a toy hauler, it's going to be sized correctly to what I have for a truck, but just wondering about 2500HD versus 3500HD.

Again very nice new wheels!


First off - do not believe any sales person or RV rep at a show when they say your XYZ truck can pull XYZ trailer. They do not get paid to help you make informed decisions.


2500-3500 or 250-350, the ride is not going to really change that much, it will be the 'legal capacity'.

All three have proven engines and transmissions now, not a bad choice among them.

The big difference between the 3 is the suspension. I like the Ram's with the air ride, but that is about it.

You start talking about triple axle toy haulers, I would recommend nothing lower then a 35? DRW. There is a lot to be said for not having the tail wag the dog.

I started out with a 2500HD with changes necessary to pull our 2 axle toy hauler and within 1 year I ordered the DRW. Just because a single rear wheel will pull a 20K pound trailer doesn't mean it will be a comfortable ride.

And one thing I found out about toy haulers, it is real easy to overload the factory ratings when you start using them a lot.

Even two axle trailers can be heavy, We have a new rig on order, 2 axles, with a 22,000 pound GVRW. I would not think of towing it with anything less then a 35? or 45?

Best advise - buy the truck you want then match the trailer to the truck.

Or, buy the trailer you want then match the truck to the trailer.

Even though my current 2011 is matched capacity wise to the new trailer, I'm still planning on upgrading within the year.
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2018, 02:55:56 PM »

Thanks for the great advice.  Sorry to hijack the thread.

There's also a LOT of difference between pulling a long trailer and a fifth wheel.  Although the stopping may not be up to par, I hear you can "pull" a nice size toy hauler with a heavy half ton.  I would not do that though.

For the amount of time I'll actually be hauling a fifth wheel toy hauler, I'm torn between gas and diesel.  New for around $9k to $10k upcharge, I'm just not truly sold on going the extra for diesel.  And the price difference in our area for fuel versus gas, I think you would REALLY want to have a diesel to spend the extra money.

I know that will open up a big discussion right there...

Sell me on a diesel guys.
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2018, 04:26:11 PM »

I would (did) go diesel.  You will recoup the $10K difference on resale value, and the MPG difference more than makes up for the additional cost of diesel at the pump.  All that, and you don't have to listen to a screaming, shifting gasser at each hill you encounter!
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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2018, 05:05:20 PM »

Sell me on a diesel guys.



Can't do it, you have to want it.

On the average extra cost for a diesel of $10,000, you need to travel over 75,000 miles towing, on average to recoup the expense.

I have two camping buddies pulling 5th wheels with gassers, neither one have any complaints. But they don't mind the loss of power for the few trips they do a year.
Diesels also cost probably double in the basic maintenance costs, filters and fluids.

Resale is something to consider through. I would guess well over 50% of the people that buy diesels don't need them, cool factor.

How much will you tow? I figure we do a pretty good job of traveling while still working. I average 5000-6000 miles a year pulling the RV.

But, if you are thinking 2 axle toy hauler you may as well go diesel, and dual rear wheel.


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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2018, 05:05:40 PM »

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Re: New tow vehicle
« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2018, 05:12:57 PM »

That all said, I started with a short bed GMC 2500HD Duramax. Good combo, but my trailer was too much for it.

Currently have a F-350 DRW, and although it is capable, I am ready for the next step. Driving through the roads of NE PA has me wanting lower gears and bigger brakes.
The trailer we have ordered will still be within the scope of my F-350, but I am ready for a F-450 now.

And before I actually order a truck next year I will seriously consider either a medium duty truck (MDT) like the Freightliner M2 series or go straight to a heavy duty truck HDT like the Volvo 700-800 series.

HDT's with under 500,000 miles are very affordable, put 10-40 K into it depending on what you want body style and or axle relocations and you are still under the price of a new pickup with million mile plus capability and towing ability that you will never out grow.
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