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CVO Technical => Wheels/Tires/Suspension/Brakes => Topic started by: Midnight Rider on February 05, 2007, 02:54:48 PM
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Advice/thoughts/experience would be appreciated on replacing the stock 16" tires/wheels on my SEUC with an 18" on the rear and either an 18" on the front, or a 19". I've been told that we are able to go up to a 150 on the rear without having to modify anything. I'm not really concerned about the width as much as being able to see the wheels a bit better, and getting something in all chrome instead of the partial chrome versions on the bike now. Plus, the rotors open up the wheel a bit more too...
I've seen a set of Renegade Wheels that I think would look good on my bike, and I may not be able to live without them the rest of next year. I'll be doing tires in about 5-7K anyway, and we all know about the rotors on our bikes, so am thinking of killing several birds with one big brick of money.
Here's a pic of the wheels I like on a RG...18 rear, 19 front, with matching rotors and pulley...click on site, then gallery, then lower left orange and silver RG with these wheels on it.
http://www.renegadewheels.com/Wheel_Page_2007/Phoenix/Phoenix.htm
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TC
Those are nice lookin wheels dude. Grover seems to understand the whole wheel/tire picture better than anyone IMHO so hopefully he'll pick up on this thread or you could PM him
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Those are nice lookin wheels dude. Grover seems to understand the whole wheel/tire picture better than anyone IMHO so hopefully he'll pick up on this thread or you could PM him
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Thanks, B...Grover has been there and done that, so hopefully he'll throw his two cents in, and I'm all ears and eyes. I would particularly like advice on the 19" front as opposed to an 18". I don't want to go with a 21 for a number of reasons...one, I don't want a real skinny tire on the front of the bike, but something that will still relatively fill up the fender; two, I have to be concerned about how tall the bike's going to be, as my ass is built too close to the ground; and three, I want the bike to handle well, whatever I do.
Here's another site to show what 18's look like on a Street Glide....different wheel from what I want, but gives a good look at the difference it can make on a bike over the 16" stocks. HUGE difference in the way this bike looks, IMO.
http://www.bikersimage.com/18VS16-2.htm
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Thanks, B...Grover has been there and done that, so hopefully he'll throw his two cents in, and I'm all ears and eyes. I would particularly like advice on the 19" front as opposed to an 18". I don't want to go with a 21 for a number of reasons...one, I don't want a real skinny tire on the front of the bike, but something that will still relatively fill up the fender; two, I have to be concerned about how tall the bike's going to be, as my ass is built too close to the ground; and three, I want the bike to handle well, whatever I do.
Here's another site to show what 18's look like on a Street Glide....different wheel from what I want, but gives a good look at the difference it can make on a bike over the 16" stocks. HUGE difference in the way this bike looks, IMO.
http://www.bikersimage.com/18VS16-2.htm
WOW That's huge Terry. Make me think maybe I'll go with those flamed out 18" wheels for LD afterall. Of course in the pics on your link they've got matching rotors that open up the wheel as well, but the distance between the outside diameter of the rotor and the outside diameter of the wheel is more than you'd think adding only an inch all around. Also the low profile tires look cool and Grover has assured me they actually feel better than the high profile stock ones. Guess that's a couple grand I gotta find somewhere ;D
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Yea, B...the matching rotors are almost a necessity, IMO...not only does it tie it all together, but it would probably be a superior rotor to what we have, and REALLY opens up the wheel. Even the back, which is mostly covered, looks a hell of a lot better.
When you find that stash, leave a bit for me too.. ;D
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Yea, B...the matching rotors are almost a necessity, IMO...not only does it tie it all together, but it would probably be a superior rotor to what we have, and REALLY opens up the wheel. Even the back, which is mostly covered, looks a hell of a lot better.
When you find that stash, leave a bit for me too.. ;D
Grover has the bigger tire but didn't have to worry about the comparative look versus the fender Terry. He changed to a smaller front fender too to match and show off the tire and wheel better.
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Grover has the bigger tire but didn't have to worry about the comparative look versus the fender Terry. He changed to a smaller front fender too to match and show off the tire and wheel better.
Yea, I remember thinking how good that looked when I got to see his bike in MV, and it really does look good. BUT, that means matching paint on a new fender, plus the 21" inch is just too tall for me. If you put a 21" on the stock fender, it is dangerously close to the fender, from what I've seen. Keeping most, if not all of the width on the front, is important to me...gets to looking odd if you don't, and keep the stock fender.
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Yea, I remember thinking how good that looked when I got to see his bike in MV, and it really does look good. BUT, that means matching paint on a new fender, plus the 21" inch is just too tall for me. If you put a 21" on the stock fender, it is dangerously close to the fender, from what I've seen. Keeping most, if not all of the width on the front, is important to me...gets to looking odd if you don't, and keep the stock fender.
Agreed. Were that a chore I was considering I'd be looking at an 18", at most a 19" for the front and trying to mate it to a tire is then as close to stock OD and width as could be matched up. Would love to see more wheel. Especially if it's a great looking wheel. But really don't want to screw with altering the rolling geometry very much at all.
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Terry
I'm not sure about the 19" wheel but recently Thunder Mountain has decided to offer a 21" wheel on the Frontier as a factory option.
But as I was reading your post I was wondering if you went to an 18" wheel and a lowprofile tire could you achieve the same height as stock SEUC geometry?
I have always been a function over form person so if the Frontier hadn't come with a single disc on the front end I not sure I would have changed it. I do like the look of the single disc on my bike. I know of many people that have changed to a single disc just to display their wheel. Shaving that right leg is not that big of a deal.
Twolane was right though, changing that geometry can adversly affect handling!
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here's another
Look at the wheels, not the lady in the pic! ;D
The lady is "Piper"
She is the TMCC motorclothes and marketing director!
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Terry
I'm not sure about the 19" wheel but recently Thunder Mountain has decided to offer a 21" wheel on the Frontier as a factory option.
But as I was reading your post I was wondering if you went to an 18" wheel and a lowprofile tire could you achieve the same height as stock SEUC geometry?
I have always been a function over form person so if the Frontier hadn't come with a single disc on the front end I not sure I would have changed it. I do like the look of the single disc on my bike. I know of many people that have changed to a single disc just to display their wheel. Shaving that right leg is not that big of a deal.
Twolane was right though, changing that geometry can adversly affect handling!
Chip...that's a good looking pair of er, ah, wheels...yeah, that's the ticket...
Seriously, those are nice wheels...who makes 'em, or are they a Thunder Mountain wheel? Do the rotors match the wheel, and last but not least, is the rotor floating?
If I end up doing this, I would be more inclined to stay with the same size on front and rear, or at most a 19" on front. If I mess around with things too much height-wise, I've defeated the purpose of the Legend Shocks to get my feet flat on the ground when manuvering around in the parking lot and basement. I think the lower profile tires would help offset any height gain I might get by going to a larger wheel so that things might only end up 3/4 to 1 inch taller when it's all said and done. I'm not really locked into any particular brand, but the style of the wheel needs to be a relatively plain 5 to 10 spoke, easy to clean, and relatively open. I like the look of your Frontier a LOT.
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Terry
These wheels are made by,
www.rccomponents.com
They are the Royalle line.
From sprockets to rotors, everything matches!
You can not imagine how easy it is to clean those wheels.
I'm picky and it takes no time at all to clean them.
Good luck in your search!
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I've narrowed it down, and here's some choices:
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Of those shown Twolane likes the Phoenix the best :2vrolijk_21: .
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Of those shown Twolane likes the Phoenix the best :2vrolijk_21: .
I'll 2nd that. All in favor say " Aye " Done deal
Go buy em Terry
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Well Terry I went with 18's front and rear with a 140 tire.I like the look of the 18's. Like you said it shows more of the wheel. And I also used Hogpro as well, the package is due to me any day now. Good luck with your project. later,Q
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NO, NO, NO!
Brian be a leader not a follower!
Be original, be one of a kind!
Can I hear an "AYE"
This is where you get to be an individual, doing whatever you please and going with whatever the hell you personally like best; even if everyone else likes it to :2vrolijk_21: !
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I know it's a blaspheme, perhaps even a heresy, to suggest something other than chrome. But Hogpro (and a few others) will provide their wheels without chrome or final polishing and ready for powdercoat. Hogpro even offers some of their line in a gloss black powercoat:
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It's hard not to consider what some of these might look like done in that same red powder coat the motor parts were done in. Might be pretty sharp on the red bike.
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Don I love that look of powder coating. I was looking at some spoke designs with powder coated hubs and rims it looked great. So I shall stand beside you as they cast the first stone. Later,Q :2vrolijk_21:
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Don I love that look of powder coating. I was looking at some spoke designs with powder coated hubs and rims it looked great. So I shall stand beside you as they cast the first stone. Later,Q :2vrolijk_21:
It's a real temptation for me John. Got to admit it. I've got pretty new tires on right now. When this set is worn out though I'll almost certainly be doing a wheel change too. And everytime I start wading through pictures I keep thinking "hmm, what would that look like in a powercoat?" There are a couple I've seen that have some sharp bevel lines to their casting or forging that (I think) would make a damn dramatic looking two toned polished and powder coat effect. Whenever I get around to doing it though there will probably be some color involved. So when those slings and arrows start falling my way it'll be good to know at least one buddy is back to back :2vrolijk_21: .
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i voted Phoenix, and I think I love chrome over the powder coat. Just personal opinion of course. With Don's powder coated engine, I'd stop about there. Chrome to mirror the red................................. or in Terry's choice, the haze.................. all good, can't go wrong here. IMHO ;)
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NO, NO, NO!
Brian be a leader not a follower!
Be original, be one of a kind!
Can I hear an "AYE"
Hmmmmmmm lemme see here.
I THINK I've got the only 2003 Screamin Eagle Road King in existance with a set of Crocodile/Ostrich/Scottish leather saddlebags and seat, enough bling to be noticed at a Rapper's convention and enough style to attract a crowd in Hollywood. I THINK my 2007 Mirage Orange Pearl Road Glide while it could be copied, it would take a bunch of time and effort , so at the moment,it is an original. And there's only one Big B anywhere Chip, so I guess once in awhile I'm allowed to follow the leader. But thanks for reminding me that unless you're the lead dog, the view never changes.
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OK Terry, I like the Daytona, but i'm outnumbered. Simplicity in chrome works for me. Personally tho', I like the 16" wheels. I just wish I could have gotten a set of those wheels the MOCO put on the 07 SEUC AND a floating brake rotor in the rear. Of course..........I'll stick with what I have for now, since they do look pretty darn good.
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Well Terry I went with 18's front and rear with a 140 tire.I like the look of the 18's. Like you said it shows more of the wheel. And I also used Hogpro as well, the package is due to me any day now. Good luck with your project. later,Q
Can't wait to see your's BD...I'm torn between sticking with 18's on both ends or going with a 19 on the front. The guy at Hogpro said the 18x4.25 on the rear with a 160 radial Metz and a 19x3 on the front with radial would work well. Did you go radial on both ends with your 18's? Did you get matching rotors?
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I'll 2nd that. All in favor say " Aye " Done deal
Go buy em Terry
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I'm leaning pretty heavy in the Phoenix direction, B B. Clean looking wheel...simple is good sometimes...
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I know it's a blaspheme, perhaps even a heresy, to suggest something other than chrome. But Hogpro (and a few others) will provide their wheels without chrome or final polishing and ready for powdercoat. Hogpro even offers some of their line in a gloss black powercoat:
Don...don't think that I didn't take a really hard look at that black finish...on the Red bike, with an edge of chrome, the powdercoated Red wheel would be something to seriously consider were I in your shoes.
The guy at Hogpro was very helpful and spent a lot of time going over various options with me on the phone. Seem like good people to do business with, and save you a couple of dollars as well. Some of their Hogpro line is built by Renegade...
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Don...don't think that I didn't take a really hard look at that black finish...on the Red bike, with an edge of chrome, the powdercoated Red wheel would be something to seriously consider were I in your shoes.
The guy at Hogpro was very helpful and spent a lot of time going over various options with me on the phone. Seem like good people to do business with, and save you a couple of dollars as well. Some of their Hogpro line is built by Renegade...
I'd found their site awhile back. Reading this see that you're looking there, Q has already been there and a couple of other might have been sniffing around. It makes a guy feel good to know that others whose judgements are also respected are at least looking around the same place.
I know I'm not doing anything until the current set of tires are worn out. I'm assuming the back will be gone after the Canada trip. Only qualifier is I've not a clue yet what to expect out of the Elite IIIs. Since so much of the mileage on this set of tires will be straight and level highway though they should last well.
Whenever they're worn, however, is when I'm planning on doing something with wheels too. Actually quite pleased to see a few of you guinea pigging this process now. It'll be good to know what size tires one can use and what might look better.
What seems to be both yours and the popular choice here is certainly a sweet looking wheel TC. Against the darker colors of the gray/silver tones and the black of your bike seeing so much more of a chrome wheel will just pop. It'll be sweet. I know I'll end up at least considering come powdercoat variation when mine gets done. But it's good to know that your fallback is always big beautiful chrome.
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I'd found their site awhile back. Reading this see that you're looking there, Q has already been there and a couple of other might have been sniffing around. It makes a guy feel good to know that others whose judgements are also respected are at least looking around the same place.
I know I'm not doing anything until the current set of tires are worn out. I'm assuming the back will be gone after the Canada trip. Only qualifier is I've not a clue yet what to expect out of the Elite IIIs. Since so much of the mileage on this set of tires will be straight and level highway though they should last well.
Whenever they're worn, however, is when I'm planning on doing something with wheels too. Actually quite pleased to see a few of you guinea pigging this process now. It'll be good to know what size tires one can use and what might look better.
What seems to be both yours and the popular choice here is certainly a sweet looking wheel TC. Against the darker colors of the gray/silver tones and the black of your bike seeing so much more of a chrome wheel will just pop. It'll be sweet. I know I'll end up at least considering come powdercoat variation when mine gets done. But it's good to know that your fallback is always big beautiful chrome.
I'd sniffed around in there a couple of months ago and liked what I saw, then stopped by a buddies body shop the other day to see about fixing a dent somebody put in my car door...he's got a SE FB and a Street Glide. His partner has a Bananna and an SE FB, and they've both put different types of wheels on the two baggers. Man, it REALLY makes a difference to get more of the wheel showing!! The Glide is the Cherry color and Mike had put some nice chrome wheels on it...18 back and 19 front...boy did it POP! Made the whole bike look completely different.
Two or three issues to be resolved though...if you go with the 150 rear tire, it is a bias ply, and then if you put the 19 on the front, it would be a radial. Not sure about that, though good results have been reported. If you go with a 160 rear (no mods are necessary), both are radials, but some have had issues with handling then, and some have not. Another issue is that if you go with matching rotors, they are not floating, though they are high quality solids. Phil, the guy I was chatting with, uses the Lydell pads on his RK, and said it was like a different bike with those pads, even with the non floating rotors. Then you get into having to do chrome calipers, of course. The Hog Halters they offer look pretty nice, and they are direct bolt ons. Lots of money, but lots of looks too...temptations and decisions about what to do and when...I figure I could sell the stockers on e-bay and get some of it back...
Never have been altogether happy with the stock wheels because of the unchromed parts of the wheel on the 06's...then when I got the V, with those nice solid chrome wheels, and especially the big one on back, it made me think about it even more when I'd clean the bikes up one after the other....the smooth surfaces on the V are soooo much easier to clean, and really do shine up nicely. Oh well, we'll see how things play out here in the next few weeks...looks over function...forks or wheels...maybe a compromise on the forks and get wheels too? ;) :2vrolijk_21:
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Been there, done that and lovin it, mostly, 18's front and rear, matching floating rotors and pulley. You will see the pulley with 18's on the back if you have 2-1 pipe for sure. I don't know how to say this other than its a gut feeling thing - I'm not sure I like the 18 on the back. Looks great, don't get me wrong, but gut says something don't feel right. Many bikes come from the factory with 18 front 16 rear, heck the SERK has 18 front 17 rear, I think there's something to it. In general I love the ride and toss the thing around like always but I can just feel something in the weight distribution slightly off making the rear a lil light. Now this doesn't make a lot of sense - wouldn't a set of 16's be the same? Maybe its just the height?
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Metzler 880 160x18" on a 18"x4.25" solid rear rim.
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With the 160 you will have about 3/8" clearance on the fender to saddlebag bracket. Does not hit even on rough roads. Just had to trim the belt guard a little.
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Got a chance today to see and touch the Renegade Phoenix wheels on a Black Street Glide...WOW!!! :o :o This is a really nice set of wheels, so my mind is made up. Also saw a set of the Aspens as well, on a Bananna, and they look great too, but would not do for my bike, I don't think.
Now I just have to figure out a way to pay for them... ;)
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You guys have heard me mention Cappy my neighbor before. Well I stopped by his house after work yesterday to get him to go for a ride. He had his Pearl Black FELIX up on the lift so we he took his hotrod FXR. Anyway, I noticed the tread pattern on the rear tire of the Felix and asked him if it was an Elite III. He said yeah, he'd just put it on. I asked him if he changed the front tire. No, why was his response. I said I don't know why, but all the guys on the CVO website say you have to run the Elite III's matched up front and rear. Ok guys WHY ? Cappy says the bike handles fine.
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You guys have heard me mention Cappy my neighbor before. Well I stopped by his house after work yesterday to get him to go for a ride. He had his Pearl Black FELIX up on the lift so we he took his hotrod FXR. Anyway, I noticed the tread pattern on the rear tire of the Felix and asked him if it was an Elite III. He said yeah, he'd just put it on. I asked him if he changed the front tire. No, why was his response. I said I don't know why, but all the guys on the CVO website say you have to run the Elite III's matched up front and rear. Ok guys WHY ? Cappy says the bike handles fine.
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Brian, I know religion is to keep them the same front and back. All I ever made absolutely sure of was that they were the same type front and back (i.e., radials, bias, whatever). Handling characteristics can get a bit squirrely if the type is mixed front and rear. But two similar (but still different) Dunlops like the stocker and an EIII? I'd never worry about it.
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You guys have heard me mention Cappy my neighbor before. Well I stopped by his house after work yesterday to get him to go for a ride. He had his Pearl Black FELIX up on the lift so we he took his hotrod FXR. Anyway, I noticed the tread pattern on the rear tire of the Felix and asked him if it was an Elite III. He said yeah, he'd just put it on. I asked him if he changed the front tire. No, why was his response. I said I don't know why, but all the guys on the CVO website say you have to run the Elite III's matched up front and rear. Ok guys WHY ? Cappy says the bike handles fine.
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B B...I've done a lot of research on tires lately because of wanting the wheels and doing it right the first time. Like Don said, things get a little "wiggly" if you mix radials, bias, but not always. Running an Elite III and a 402 should not be a problem. From my studies, the 402's just tend to want to follow groves a bit more because of the straighter tread pattern, that's all. The Elite's have a pattern similar to the Metz tires...in fact, my SEVrod has an Elite III on the rear. It's a good handling tire.
I wish somebody would make an 18" rear in a 140, 150, or 160 with at least a 70 profile rated for around the 900 lbs mark, but nobody does!! There is a huge market out there untapped for that tire.
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I wish somebody would make an 18" rear in a 140, 150, or 160 with at least a 70 profile rated for around the 900 lbs mark, but nobody does!! There is a huge market out there untapped for that tire.
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This was one thing I didn't think of when changing the rear tire out to a 160. When we travel I usually have a tour pack "FULL" and tow a trailer. Now I am worried about towing the trailer so much that I took off my trailer hitch.
If they do come up with a 900# tire I will reconsider trailering with the tour pack again.
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Thanks for the replys guys Since I go through two rear tires for every front tire, I'm just gonna put the Elite III on the back when it wears out - - - any day now and then when the new rear tire wears out, the orginal front tire will be worn out and I'll match up front and rear with Elite III's. That'll probably happen on the way to Nelson so I'll get stuck payin full freight for a set of tires at a dealership that's never seen me before. C'est la vie
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I wish somebody would make an 18" rear in a 140, 150, or 160 with at least a 70 profile rated for around the 900 lbs mark, but nobody does!! There is a huge market out there untapped for that tire.
This was one thing I didn't think of when changing the rear tire out to a 160. When we travel I usually have a tour pack "FULL" and tow a trailer. Now I am worried about towing the trailer so much that I took off my trailer hitch.
If they do come up with a 900# tire I will reconsider trailering with the tour pack again.
B...the 160/60x18 is rated high enough for the load, but according the the Metz rep I talked with, it's the amount of air volume in the tire that is the problem. I'm sure they are overly cautious in their recommendations because of liability, but he says because of the smaller air volume, the tire gets hotter and will wear quicker...the stock 16" tire is a 90 profile. :nixweiss: Do you know anyone else running that tire who could report on tire wear? I guess what he's saying is the profile of the tire makes a difference in how quickly it can dissipate the heat generated with a loaded down rear end.
I figure my bike in present configuration (all the chit I've hung on it), wet, probably weighs in close to 900lbs...the stock 402's are rated for 908 rear and 772 on the front, so let's just say a total of about 1600 lbs, so that leaves 700 lbs for load, though the bike does have a maximum GVW less than that. I figure the two people are going to weigh (in my case) 300lbs or a little more, depending on what we're wearing...with full leathers on, we're probably closer to 350+. 100 lbs of other chit on board, and I'm pretty damn close to the GVW, though the tires might handle more.
I was wanting to go with the same rear as you, and the 19 on front, both radials. But the 19 front is only rated for 557lbs... :nervous: So, I'm going with the 140/70x18 front which is rated to 667lbs, and sticking with the 16" rear 140/90, rated to 887lbs. That will keep me well within the tire ratings.
Like I said, I'm sure these tire companies rate their tires very conservatively, so there's probably a wide margin for error.
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Hogasm,
Just noticed you have a fairly new Donzi. With Don Aronow long dead, who makes them these days. Has the hull shape changed etc etc etc . A zillion questions and this thread is about tires anyway, but I always loved those boats and haven't thought about them in a bit. Everything out here is Fountain, or Formula (yech)
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Hogasm,
Just noticed you have a fairly new Donzi. With Don Aronow long dead, who makes them these days. Has the hull shape changed etc etc etc . A zillion questions and this thread is about tires anyway, but I always loved those boats and haven't thought about them in a bit. Everything out here is Fountain, or Formula (yech)
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American Marine Holdings owns Donzi
It's for sale, need room for the new 61'
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American Marine Holdings owns Donzi
It's for sale, need room for the new 61'
61' WOW Dude That's in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen's toys in my book. I'm not that ambitious. I've always wanted an older 28 footer. One that was built when Aronow was still alive. Did you ever read up on the whole mystery surrounding his death. Anyway, since we're off topic, we might as well go with this for a bit. Donzi's have always had a certain fair to them that no other boat has. As a qualified Marine Designer, I look for certain things when I see a boat and the fair of the hull on a Donzi is like no other IMO. Every small boat Mfgr has their forte. Sea Ray has the absolute best machinery compartments. Cigarette was one of the first to go with a 23 degree step in the bow area, Fountain made their name with the power train. What's the quality and hull like on the new AH Donzi's ? Are your running Arneson surfacing drives or Mecury Alpha units ? I gots to know LOL
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Here's a shot of a friend's Felix with a 19" Renegade Phoenix and matching rotors.
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Another friend's "Nana" with the Renegade Aspen wheel...
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Another...
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Donzi's have always had a certain fair to them that no other boat has. As a qualified Marine Designer, I look for certain things when I see a boat and the fair of the hull on a Donzi is like no other IMO. Every small boat Mfgr has their forte. What's the quality and hull like on the new AH Donzi's ? Are your running Arneson surfacing drives or Mecury Alpha units ? I gots to know LOL B B
B B, didn't know you were a boatman. I have/had a Donzi Z22, great boat, have a 16 Classic now.
Here's the Z on Lake Chelan in eastern Washington, you may go bye here on the way to Nelson.
As I recall hogasm has a ZF32 center console with outboards.
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TCnBham - I've been running the Metz 880 160/60-18 on a 4.25" Performance Machine Wheel in the rear (140/70-18 front), with no issues with ride or wear. With 7K miles I'd guess I've still got 40% tread left. FYI, I have ridden one-up with only an occasional passenger, so there's not much load on the bike. I weigh 200# -Don't have a pic of the rear, but here's a shot of the 18" front PM Monaco wheel/rotors + PM 6 piston caliper on my Cherry. Rear clearancing required just a little shaving of the inboard side of the plastic belt guard and, yes, the reflector on the fork leg has since been removed - PJ
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TCnBham - I've been running the Metz 880 160/60-18 on a 4.25" Performance Machine Wheel (140/70-18 front), with no issues with ride or wear. With 7K miles I'd guess I've still got 40% tread left and have had no problems. FYI, I have ridden one-up with only an occasional passenger, so there's not much load on the bike. I weigh 200# - Don't have a pic of the rear, but here's a shot of the 18" front PM Monaco wheel on my Cherry - PJ p.s. rear clearancing required just a little shaving of the inboard side of the plastic belt guard
PJ...what front are you running with that rear?...if you're getting that kind of milage on the tire, that is telling me something, even if you are one-up most of the time. If I could get 8K on a rear, I'd be happy with it.
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TC - 140/70-18 Metz 880 up front.
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TC - 140/70-18 Metz 880 up front.
Thanks, PJ...so you're running a the radial on back and a bias on front with no handling issues? I REALLY want to go with an 18 on back, but the Metz guy scared me a bit. It seems to me that the extra width would make up for the height with regards to air volume in the tire, plus the 160R is a 76V rating on speed, so should be a stronger tire. Like you, I don't want a skinny tire on front, but would prefer the 3.5" wheel with the 140, as you have.
I really think that Metz will soon be coming out with some other offerings for the front in a true radial in the 18 size.
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TC - I guess as many people you talk to you'll get as many opinions. At the time I decided to go this route, I asked the Metz tech people and they indicated the radial rear/bias front was acceptable on the Harley chassis. If my memory serves me correctly, he also indicated that I would never want to go to a radial in front, although I've seen a few bikes with a radial in the front. I did have some wobble at high speed as many others have had, but the solution to that problem was replacing and tightening the neck bearings to proper specs. As an alternative, you might want to consider the Avon AM41/42 which are bias ply. I've got a set as a backup to the Metz's and they are in 150/70-18 (70 load) for the rear and 140/70-18 front (67 load). The rear is a little narrowing and taller, but not significantly so. Somebody on this site must be running that combo - PJ
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TCnBham - I've been running the Metz 880 160/60-18 on a 4.25" Performance Machine Wheel in the rear (140/70-18 front), with no issues with ride or wear. With 7K miles I'd guess I've still got 40% tread left. FYI, I have ridden one-up with only an occasional passenger, so there's not much load on the bike. I weigh 200# -Don't have a pic of the rear, but here's a shot of the 18" front PM Monaco wheel/rotors + PM 6 piston caliper on my Cherry. Rear clearancing required just a little shaving of the inboard side of the plastic belt guard and, yes, the reflector on the fork leg has since been removed - PJ
Pete, is that the Adjure axle kit?
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Don - you don't miss anything, do ya' - yes, it's the adjure axle kit
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Don - you don't miss anything, do ya' - yes, it's the adjure axle kit
Thanks Pete. I've got one that just arrived yesterday. Setting on the bench next to the new legs. Had never seen such good picture of one installed though. Sweet :2vrolijk_21: .
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B B, didn't know you were a boatman. I have/had a Donzi Z22, great boat, have a 16 Classic now.
Here's the Z on Lake Chelan in eastern Washington, you may go bye here on the way to Nelson.
As I recall hogasm has a ZF32 center console with outboards.
Grew up on the water Rog. My family has an estate on Sebago Lake in Maine. 4 acres with 400 ft of private beach. Me and my dad built a skipjack with a 9.9 Merc when I was 12. Last boat I owned was a Celebrity 22. Never found the Donzi I wanted for sale in any kind of decent shape. Maine winters are hard on stuff if it's not stored right and every Donzi I ever looked at had been abused. Anyway, I was in the Merchant Marine and have worked for Bath Iron Works for 26 years. With the exception of a 5 year stint as a homebuilder I've been involved with boats my whole life.
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61' WOW Dude That's in the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen's toys in my book. I'm not that ambitious. I've always wanted an older 28 footer. One that was built when Aronow was still alive. Did you ever read up on the whole mystery surrounding his death. Anyway, since we're off topic, we might as well go with this for a bit. Donzi's have always had a certain fair to them that no other boat has. As a qualified Marine Designer, I look for certain things when I see a boat and the fair of the hull on a Donzi is like no other IMO. Every small boat Mfgr has their forte. Sea Ray has the absolute best machinery compartments. Cigarette was one of the first to go with a 23 degree step in the bow area, Fountain made their name with the power train. What's the quality and hull like on the new AH Donzi's ? Are your running Arneson surfacing drives or Mecury Alpha units ? I gots to know LOL
B B
Big B the donzi has twin 250 mercury Verado outboards. Runs right at 60 mph. Gets us to the fish fast and comfortable. It is not the fastest but it is paid for :2vrolijk_21:
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Thanks Pete. I've got one that just arrived yesterday. Setting on the bench next to the new legs. Had never seen such good picture of one installed though. Sweet :2vrolijk_21: .
Don that is the same axle kit I have. Knowing how you notice differences in things.......the two sides do not have the same bevel. :oops: If that makes sense to you. Look at both sides of the axle and they are different. Most people won't notice though :2vrolijk_21:
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Thanks Pete. I've got one that just arrived yesterday. Setting on the bench next to the new legs. Had never seen such good picture of one installed though. Sweet :2vrolijk_21: .
Guess you missed the pics of Elvis I posted way back last June when it had black classic bags on it. Beagle loved it so much he had to have one. I need to get one for LD. They are a really nice product. Well worth a Benjamin.
B B
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TCnBham - I've been running the Metz 880 160/60-18 on a 4.25" Performance Machine Wheel in the rear (140/70-18 front), with no issues with ride or wear. With 7K miles I'd guess I've still got 40% tread left. FYI, I have ridden one-up with only an occasional passenger, so there's not much load on the bike. I weigh 200# -Don't have a pic of the rear, but here's a shot of the 18" front PM Monaco wheel/rotors + PM 6 piston caliper on my Cherry. Rear clearancing required just a little shaving of the inboard side of the plastic belt guard and, yes, the reflector on the fork leg has since been removed - PJ
That my friend is the look I'm going after. Looks great. Later,Q
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Well Terry I went with 18's front and rear with a 140 tire.I like the look of the 18's. Like you said it shows more of the wheel. And I also used Hogpro as well, the package is due to me any day now. Good luck with your project. later,Q
Check the date on this post. Its been a long "any day now" hasn't it.
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Choices, choices...this thread reminds me of all the lost sleep (somewhat of an exaggeration) I had deciding what size wheels/tires, which calipers and in the case of the Performance Machine calipers, whether to go with the 11.5" rotors or the 13" - knowing the 13" would perform better and dissipate heat faster, but would take away from the look of the larger wheel which is what I wanted in the first place. I don't think I'm the only one who tossed and turned over this stuff. I recall a great photo on the old site of somebody who mounted all chrome (mirror chrome) thunderstar wheels, then converted to a single disc in front to show off the wheel. It looked awesome, but I think it was the opinion of most was, in that case, not to trade off the stopping power for the great looks...to all you guys trying to decide which combination,etc,etc, whatever you choose will no doubt look slick as s*%t - have fun with it - PJ
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Thanks for the encouraging words, PJ...it's a lot of money by the time you do it all up right, so don't want to eff up and not be happy with the choice.
Now I've found another wheel I think would really look sick on my bike, so another choice... :nervous: It's a PM wheel...
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Now I've found another wheel I think would really look sick on my bike, so another choice... :nervous: It's a PM wheel...
silly boy
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Check the date on this post. Its been a long "any day now" hasn't it.
Q...man, I hate it for you, bro...I hope they get you taken care of real soon...can't wait to see the SERK with whatever choice you've made.
I'll be talking to Phil in the next few days to get my stuff coming, I hope.
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silly boy
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Seek, and ye shall receive....
What do you think?
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Seek, and ye shall receive....
What do you think?
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Don't pay any heed to my reaction to them though. I never like any wheel that has a sweep to its spokes or other radius effects. I tend to like straight lines in my wheels. Just boring that way.
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Don't pay any heed to my reaction to them though. I never like any wheel that has a sweep to its spokes or other radius effects. I tend to like straight lines in my wheels. Just boring that way.
Don, just for kicks, go to the PM website, then to HD bikes, then to wheels, then to see what the wheels look like on your bike. The closest thing they have to our bikes is an RK...pick different colors with different wheels. It's amazing how different some of the wheels look when they are actually mounted. Some of the patterns in the wheels don't really show themselves well until they are mounted up with the rotors. It's a tough decision...
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It's a tough decision...
The hellish part about getting wheels for anything is just picking what you're gonna want Terry. It's brutal. I've been wanting to change wheels on the old T-bird for two wheels but just can't pick.
The same type of software is available to let you try out different wheels on most cars too (including the old one). And it helps A LOT being able to visualize it. Because they often do look so much different on the bike or car than on the page. But I still hate picking wheels. It makes parts of me pucker that just normally shouldn't pucker so much. And then, god help you, if you think maybe you've picked wrong once you see them installed that first impression will annoy the hell out of you for YEARS!
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The hellish part about getting wheels for anything is just picking what you're gonna want Terry. It's brutal. I've been wanting to change wheels on the old T-bird for two wheels but just can't pick.
The same type of software is available to let you try out different wheels on most cars too (including the old one). And it helps A LOT being able to visualize it. Because they often do look so much different on the bike or car than on the page. But I still hate picking wheels. It makes parts of me pucker that just normally shouldn't pucker so much. And then, god help you, if you think maybe you've picked wrong once you see them installed that first impression will annoy the hell out of you for YEARS!
Don,
Is there a military base anywhere near you ? If so, go hang out by the entrance early in the morning and at about 1430 and you'll have a rolling parade of every wheel made. Those young servicemen and women will put $3,000 rims and tires on a $2,000 car.
B B
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Don,
Is there a military base anywhere near you ? If so, go hang out by the entrance early in the morning and at about 1430 and you'll have a rolling parade of every wheel made. Those young servicemen and women will put $3,000 rims and tires on a $2,000 car.
B B
No Brian, nothing close. Leonard Wood and Leavenworth the closest posts of any size. Unfortunately I have to go to posts occasionally rather than them coming to me. The expensive wheels on the beater cars is something I always got a kick out of though. I suppose we did it too but I really don't remember ever having the cash for fancy wheels after just keeping the cars/bikes running and managing the expense of girls and other necessities. May have to dig out old pictures and see what the old rattle traps I drove in the day really liked like. Might be interesting to see if the memory is flattering or trying to protect my now aged feelings :huepfenlol2: .
There is one contemporary look though that I really don't get. The little beater "tuner cars." Some kid will have two thousand bucks worth of old beat up Toyota and have wheels and low profile tires sticking out about 18 feet beyond the fenders and other 3k worth of bling scattered on and around the car. And god help you if you're driving by when the stereo gets cranked up. The only thing that might resonate more deeply to your bones would be standing a couple miles off ground zero during an underground nuclear detonation.
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No Brian, nothing close. Leonard Wood and Leavenworth the closest posts of any size. Unfortunately I have to go to posts occasionally rather than them coming to me. The expensive wheels on the beater cars is something I always got a kick out of though. I suppose we did it too but I really don't remember ever having the cash for fancy wheels after just keeping the cars/bikes running and managing the expense of girls and other necessities. May have to dig out old pictures and see what the old rattle traps I drove in the day really liked like. Might be interesting to see if the memory is flattering or trying to protect my now aged feelings :huepfenlol2: .
There is one contemporary look though that I really don't get. The little beater "tuner cars." Some kid will have two thousand bucks worth of old beat up Toyota and have wheels and low profile tires sticking out about 18 feet beyond the fenders and other 3k worth of bling scattered on and around the car. And god help you if you're driving by when the stereo gets cranked up. The only thing that might resonate more deeply to your bones would be standing a couple miles off ground zero during an underground nuclear detonation.
See what the EPA has caused? Now instead of putting all the $$$$ in the motor and exhaust it goes into wheels and stereo.
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My real favorite is all of the minivans that wind up being reborn in Mexico instead of being crushed. You see an 88 Dodge Caravan in Dago, sure bet it's got Font BC plates on it.
I nicknamed these things Spotahomes cause the people in em ain't spota be here. ;)
B B
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Don, Is there a military base anywhere near you ? If so, go hang out by the entrance early in the morning and at about 1430 and you'll have a rolling parade of every wheel made. Those young servicemen and women will put $3,000 rims and tires on a $2,000 car. B B
Jamey is the NCOIC - SGM - in charge of all training at Fort Lee. You are just not joking. The more senior the service member gets, the older and funkier their vehicles, but those younguns, living in the barracks, all meals covered, all clothes covered, all entertainment (legal kind) covered. They are driving dream vehicles around here.
I mean, we don't have kids so are paying for any weddings or college and we do OK, but the privates, man oh man, they seem to have money to burn.
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Pulled the trigger on wheels, tires, 3 rotors, pulley, and two chrome calipers. :huepfenjump3: 8)
I'm not telling which ones I picked.... :P :P
You'll all just have to wait and see.... :2vrolijk_21: :)
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Let me add that my dealings with Phil at Hogpro have been nothing but completely excellent...Phil has gone out of his way to provide opinion, expertise, and honest evaluations of the merchandise he carries. Like he told me yesterday...he'd rather sell me his Hogpro line of wheels, but his main goal is to make me happy. Of course, he has no control over the other vendors who supply him, but he goes above and beyond to ensure good customer service. Prices are good, and the wheels/tires will come to my door totally ready to install. Just can't ask for it to get any better than that. I'm not dealing with Xtreme parts, so we'll see if he can get everything I need from the vendor in a timely manner.
5 star service :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
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Terry I can't agree with you more. I just got off the phone with Phil we spoke for over 45 minutes talking about everything from chromers to the moco and our love of motorcycling in general. They are stand up and i would recommend them to anyone who needs wheel and tire packages. He said that you had mentioned my dilemma to him. Thanks for that Terry now we have 2 of us on the hunt for my stuff. On the wheels themselves your guess is as good as mine when I will ever see them. Later,Q
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You'll all just have to wait and see.... :2vrolijk_21: :)
Since yours will be in line behind John's that means you should have them in time for Sturgis.
2009.
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and two chrome calipers. :huepfenjump3: 8)
By the way, what did you choose for calipers? You'd mentioned a couple of options.
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By the way, what did you choose for calipers? You'd mentioned a couple of options.
PM, 4 piston, differential bore.
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Since yours will be in line behind John's that means you should have them in time for Sturgis.
2009.
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Terry you had me worried there for a minute. :o :nervous: Don's post was up for thirty minutes before you replied. :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Pulled the trigger on wheels, tires, 3 rotors, pulley, and two chrome calipers. :huepfenjump3: 8)
I'm not telling which ones I picked.... :P :P
You'll all just have to wait and see.... :2vrolijk_21: :)
Terry,
I look forward to the unveiling (is that how you spell it?...lol)
jeffj
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One thing about changing the calipers is that bleeding duals is a bitch. Its tough to get a good feel out of them after you uncork the hoses.
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Terry,
I look forward to the unfailing (is that how you spell it?...lol)
jeffj
Unveiling
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Unveiling
was changing it as you sent the correction...thanks
jeffj
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One thing about changing the calipers is that bleeding duals is a bitch. Its tough to get a good feel out of them after you uncork the hoses.
That's what she said :vrolijk27:
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PM, 4 piston, differential bore.
Lyndall, DP, or crap of some kind?
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Terry you had me worried there for a minute. :o :nervous: Don's post was up for thirty minutes before you replied. :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Need to cut the man some slack D00d. After all, he got blowed away today.
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One thing about changing the calipers is that bleeding duals is a bitch. Its tough to get a good feel out of them after you uncork the hoses.
John, I don't remember ever having much trouble unless it was with DOT5 fluid. If one ever seemed a bit cranky I'd just let it gravity bleed for a half hour or 45 minutes. That pretty well always took care of it.
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Need to cut the man some slack D00d. After all, he got blowed away today.
You mean he needed longer then thirty minutes to let you know you were number 1 in his life. :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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John, I don't remember ever having much trouble unless it was with DOT5 fluid. If one ever seemed a bit cranky I'd just let it gravity bleed for a half hour or 45 minutes. That pretty well always took care of it.
Didn't have any problems when I had to change all the lines out for the handlebars...but, I let them gravity bleed for a few before starting the bleed.
Don, they are EBC pads...POS or not?
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You mean he needed longer then thirty minutes to let you know you were number 1 in his life. :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
Work got in the way of my response... ::)
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Terry-
What size rear tire did you decide to go with?
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Didn't have any problems when I had to change all the lines out for the handlebars...but, I let them gravity bleed for a few before starting the bleed.
Don, they are EBC pads...POS or not?
Have seen their stuff for the SUV and other automotive market. Didn't know they aftermarketed in to the bike world. The Lyndalls and DPs are just so good, for relatively so little coin, it's hard not to use them. Have taken PM 6 piston calipers that didn't feel any better than stock calipers w/Lynalls and then put Lyndalls on the PMs and it was a night and day difference.
EBC has a reputation for good stuff though. Only thing I'd pay attention to is they also have a reputation for being hard on rotors in the automotive world. So pay attention to those expensive new bike rotors and make sure you're not sanding them down and scuffing them up.
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Terry-
What size rear tire did you decide to go with?
Grover...for my purposes on this bike, considering that I'm riding two up almost all the time, and with a considerable cargo load when on trips, I took the advice of the Metzler rep and went with the 16" rear...140/90x16 on the rear, and 140/70x18 on front. Rear is rated for well over 900 lbs, so that was my deciding factor. Will see enough of it to matter, and I'll know it's there, along with the rear rotor and pulley. Dood ain't gonna' have chit on me for stealth chrome.. ;) Metz has NO plans to come out with an 18" tire for the back that is rated for a touring bike which is used for it's intended purpose. I've always got the 240 on the back of the V to do the cruising...
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Have seen their stuff for the SUV and other automotive market. Didn't know they aftermarketed in to the bike world. The Lyndalls and DPs are just so good, for relatively so little coin, it's hard not to use them. Have taken PM 6 piston calipers that didn't feel any better than stock calipers w/Lynalls and then put Lyndalls on the PMs and it was a night and day difference.
EBC has a reputation for good stuff though. Only thing I'd pay attention to is they also have a reputation for being hard on rotors in the automotive world. So pay attention to those expensive new bike rotors and make sure you're not sanding them down and scuffing them up.
Don...looked them up on the web site...they make a bit different pad...copper metalic in the pad. I was told by the rep and by Hogpro that they are very close to the Lyndal, but not quite as good, so we'll see. If I'm not happy with them, it's a simple thing to change them out, so I'll give them a couple of thousand miles and see what's happening. :nixweiss: I'm not getting rid of this scoot anytime soon...I'll probably have this one until I retire...5 years. I'm going to use the V a lot more this season for the runs close by since I've got it where I want it now. The Duc is going though...
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The Duc is going though...
Tc, tell me about the Deuce.
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Tc, tell me about the Deuce.
AJ...I'm talking about my Ducati, not a Deuce. Great bike, and I don't really want to sell it, but three is just too many. It's not your typical Duc though...
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Grover...for my purposes on this bike, considering that I'm riding two up almost all the time, and with a considerable cargo load when on trips, I took the advice of the Metzler rep and went with the 16" rear...140/90x16 on the rear, and 140/70x18 on front. Rear is rated for well over 900 lbs, so that was my deciding factor.
Good idea Terry,
For your riding habits, that's the last thing you'd have wanted to do is to be changing rears all the time.
As far as the matching pulley & rotors go, it's great to have a matching set, it really completes the look! You can really see the pulley with a 2:1 exhaust. On the duals, you can still see it, especially at a distance walking up to the bike. Then people know you have serious OCD issues :huepfenlol2: :2vrolijk_21: But that's what it's all about :)
I'm thinking of getting my belt airbrushed to spice it up a little more while the bags are off (kinda like a open primary chopper guy wanna be :huepfenlol2:)
I did respond to your pm, so I hope you got my babbling pm a while back. I didn't know if it got lost in cyberspace....
Looking forward to seeing your new chrome sneakers on your Ultra Bling Machine....it's gonna be sweeeeeeet!!!!!!
Take care,
Grover
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Good idea Terry,
For your riding habits, that's the last thing you'd have wanted to do is to be changing rears all the time.
As far as the matching pulley & rotors go, it's great to have a matching set, it really completes the look! You can really see the pulley with a 2:1 exhaust. On the duals, you can still see it, especially at a distance walking up to the bike. Then people know you have serious OCD issues :huepfenlol2: :2vrolijk_21: But that's what it's all about :)
I'm thinking of getting my belt airbrushed to spice it up a little more while the bags are off (kinda like a open primary chopper guy wanna be :huepfenlol2:)
I did respond to your pm, so I hope you got my babbling pm a while back. I didn't know if it got lost in cyberspace....
Looking forward to seeing your new chrome sneakers on your Ultra Bling Machine....it's gonna be sweeeeeeet!!!!!!
Take care,
Grover
Grover...I really appreciated your PM and advice/opinion during this process of deciding what to do. This is a huge investment, and makes a dramatic difference in how the bike looks, so it is an agonizing process. But, it feels good to finally settle on something and know that it just "feels" right. The only part that won't be different is the rear caliper, and I just couldn't make myself spring for that one since it is truely hidden ALL the time. The pulley and rotor will show, even if it's just a little bit, as will the wheel. I'm really excited about this change to the bike....now I've got to get the chrome belt guard!! Cams will be in her sometime late spring/early summer. Next year is going to be a 2 week loop out to the Western States... :bananarock:
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Grover...I really appreciated your PM and advice/opinion during this process of deciding what to do. This is a huge investment, and makes a dramatic difference in how the bike looks, so it is an agonizing process. But, it feels good to finally settle on something and know that it just "feels" right. The only part that won't be different is the rear caliper, and I just couldn't make myself spring for that one since it is truely hidden ALL the time. The pulley and rotor will show, even if it's just a little bit, as will the wheel. I'm really excited about this change to the bike....now I've got to get the chrome belt guard!! Cams will be in her sometime late spring/early summer. Next year is going to be a 2 week loop out to the Western States... :bananarock:
Your gonna be happy once it's all completed....smiles for miles :)
I went with a chrome exchange rear caliper.....there's a small gap in front of the saddlebag that you can see a glimpse of the caliper.
http://highlustrechromeplating.com/ or http://chromethathog.com/
Chrome exchange caliper is only $150.00 w/exchange so I had to go for it!
http://www.highlustrechromeplating.com/catalog/index_2.html
Also, make sure you have the chrome rear spacers before the install, you'll be glad you did.
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Your gonna be happy once it's all completed....smiles for miles :)
I went with a chrome exchange rear caliper.....there's a small gap in front of the saddlebag that you can see a glimpse of the caliper.
http://highlustrechromeplating.com/ or http://chromethathog.com/
Chrome exchange caliper is only $150.00 w/exchange so I had to go for it!
http://www.highlustrechromeplating.com/catalog/index_2.html
Also, make sure you have the chrome rear spacers before the install, you'll be glad you did.
That's a good deal on the rear caliper...I'm going to check into that for sure...thanks for the tip!!
The spacers is something I haven't thought about...I'll have to get the P&A book out to figure which one's I'll need...
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Update on the Performance Machine Wheels I'm getting...
Wheels (18x3.5 front and 16x3.5 rear), matching front rotors, matching rear pulley, PM Chrome Brake calipers, four piston, for both front and rear, Metzler tires, and Lyndal pads are in house at HogPro. The ONLY part missing is the matching rear rotor, and it looks like that's going to be a little while longer.
I told Phil just to ship me everything he has...I'll just mount the stock rotor for the rear, use the brake pads that come on the PM calipers (EBC), and then when I get the new floating rotor for the rear, pull the wheel back off and stick it on and change the pads to the Lyndals so they'll mate up with the new rotor. New stainless rear brake line is coming as well...necessary for the PM rear caliper, and a good opportunity to get rid of the POS black one on the bike now.
Anybody see any drawbacks to that approach?
Oh, a chrome lower belt guard is going on too... :2vrolijk_21: Can't have all that other stealth chrome lonesome back there.
Hopefully, it will all ship by Friday...
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I'd do it the same way Terry. Are you gettin' excited :bananarock: :orange: :pepper: :huepfenjump3:
You're gonna have a good time ripping those boxes open :2vrolijk_21:
Just remember. :worthless:
Can't wait to see the Bling :cool26: ;D
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I'd do it the same way Terry. Are you gettin' excited :bananarock: :orange: :pepper: :huepfenjump3:
You're gonna have a good time ripping those boxes open :2vrolijk_21:
Just remember. :worthless:
Can't wait to see the Bling :cool26: ;D
Thanks, Grover...I'm gettin' REAL excited, not just for the bling, which will be awesome, but also for the much improved brakes, rotors, and tires. You can bet there will be some pics, buddy!! Next weekend is the AMA Superbike Race here in B'ham, so will get to see several of our CVO buddies down here for that event. We're even going to do the parade laps around the track...so, hopefully the new stuff will be here before then, but if not I'll have pics to post Sunday night!!
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Thanks, Grover...I'm gettin' REAL excited, not just for the bling, which will be awesome, but also for the much improved brakes, rotors, and tires. You can bet there will be some pics, buddy!! Next weekend is the AMA Superbike Race here in B'ham, so will get to see several of our CVO buddies down here for that event. We're even going to do the parade laps around the track...so, hopefully the new stuff will be here before then, but if not I'll have pics to post Sunday night!!
Sounds like a great time to be had....
Damn! You guy's "The Alabama Gang" have all the fun :2vrolijk_21: Should be pretty cool during the parade laps. I hope everything turns out for you, you lucky dog ;D
Take care,
Grover
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i have Renegade Montery's on my SEEG. 18X3.5 frt & 18X4.25 rear. Frt tire is a Metzler 140 and rear a Metzler 160 Radial. I have about 7500 miles on them with no problem. You have to slightly notch the back side of the lower belt guard for clearance on the rear tire, otherwise it is a bolt-on. If you put the tire/wheel on and then mark the curve on the belt guard you can clearance it and no one will be able to tell. Or use a 150 rear and modify nothing.
The Renegade guys are good to work with, Chuck even threw in a couple of shirts and a Hoodie.
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Everything has shipped :bananarock: :mango: :orange: :apple: :pineapple:
Phil got my rear rotor in Friday and shipped it out the same day, so it should be here Thursday, with all the other parts here on Wednesday. Whooohooo!!
Can't say enough good things about Phil at HogPro...he has been helpful and on top of things the entire time. Excellent customer service!!
I even helped him spend some of his money along the way...he has an 07 RK and is putting RH's, TmaxAT, Doherty PP, Freedom gear driven cam kit, and is probably going to end up with the Traxxion front end before it's all over with.
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Everything has shipped :bananarock: :mango: :orange: :apple: :pineapple:
Phil got my rear rotor in Friday and shipped it out the same day, so it should be here Thursday, with all the other parts here on Wednesday. Whooohooo!!
Can't say enough good things about Phil at HogPro...he has been helpful and on top of things the entire time. Excellent customer service!!
I even helped him spend some of his money along the way...he has an 07 RK and is putting RH's, TmaxAT, Doherty PP, Freedom gear driven cam kit, and is probably going to end up with the Traxxion front end before it's all over with.
Terry, SWEET!!!! So, have you put in a request to take Thursday off yet?!?
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They're here!!
Type: Package
Status: In Transit
Scheduled Delivery: 04/18/2007
Shipped to: BIRMINGHAM, AL, US
Shipped or Billed on: 04/12/2007
Service Type: GROUND
Weight: 50.00 Lbs
Multiple Packages: 2
Package Progress
Location Date Local Time Description
BIRMINGHAM,
AL, US 04/18/2007 7:54 A.M. OUT FOR DELIVERY
04/18/2007 3:00 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
MEMPHIS,
TN, US 04/17/2007 4:20 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
MEMPHIS,
TN, US 04/16/2007 4:05 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN
VAN NUYS,
CA, US 04/13/2007 12:57 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN
VAN NUYS,
CA, US 04/12/2007 9:59 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN
US 04/12/2007 7:06 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED
Pulled both wheels off last night, got all the Lyndal pads installed in the new PM calipers. The packages above contain both wheels, mounted tires, mounted dual front rotors, mounted rear pulley, and new stainless rear brake line (required for new PM caliper set up). Rear rotor is coming tomorrow, as it did not arrive to HogPro until the day after the above stuff shipped. So, tonight it's mount the front wheel, install the new calipers on the front and center them on the rotors by shimming if necessary, bleed front brakes, and install the rear brake line (this could be a bit of a beautch because of how it has to be routed...once the new part is in hand, I'll have a better idea of time required to do this). When rotor comes tomorrow (I'm taking Thurs and Fri off ;) ), bolt it on, install rear wheel and caliper, center it, bleed rear brake line, re-install mufflers and right lower shock bolt.
If any of you have the Legend Shocks, the right lower shock bolt must come off in order to get the axle cone nut wrench on...not a big deal at all, as once the bolt is out the shock can be swung back and tied off to the filler strip for the bags.
Also installed chrome lower belt guard cover last night, and have chrome rear spacers for the new wheels to go back in. Lot's of stealth chrome!!!
Barring any problems, I should be rolling by mid to late afternoon Thursday. If not, the Vrod will see a lot of action this weekend with everyone coming down/over for the races at Barber.
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Terry,
That's great news!!!! Can't wait to see pictures. You mention taking off Thurs/Fri I'm surprised you are at work today. :o :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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Terry,
That's great news!!!! Can't wait to see pictures. You mention taking off Thurs/Fri I'm surprised you are at work today. :o :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
Heck, after buying all of this stuff, I'm surprised he can afford to take time off. ;)
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I know the feeling Terry. I'm feeling it for you right now. :bananarock: Can't wait to see some bling pics, I'm so looking forward to it. At least they came in a reasonable amount of time for you. Good luck with the install. If I was down there I would definately lend you a hand. Nothing like watching the transformation in progress. Later,Q
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Terry,
That's great news!!!! Can't wait to see pictures. You mention taking off Thurs/Fri I'm surprised you are at work today. :o :huepfenlol2:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
If UPS ran in the morning instead of afternoon, I would have gotten sick today... ;) I had a damn root canal last Thursday, so figured I'd better not push my luck calling in sick today :huepfenlol2: I'm lucky to have a job with fairly generous vacation time (1.83 days per month), so I've got about 14 days built back up after "retiring" from my other job. I used to keep 44 days on the books all the time, and a couple of hundred sick days, but it all got zeroed out when I retired and started the new job with the Health System.
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I know the feeling Terry. I'm feeling it for you right now. :bananarock: Can't wait to see some bling pics, I'm so looking forward to it. At least they came in a reasonable amount of time for you. Good luck with the install. If I was down there I would definately lend you a hand. Nothing like watching the transformation in progress. Later,Q
Thanks, John...I'm really looking forward to this change for the bike. Wheels make such a dramatic change and statement, it really is a transformation. I'm just hoping everything looks as good on the bike as I have pictured in my mind. The PM calipers sure are finished well, so if that's any indication, it's really going to be a huge difference.
I wish you were here too...another pair of hands when handling the wheels/axles would be handy!!
Are you OK in all the flooding going on up there, bro?
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The worst is over and I faired pretty well over all. But it is still damn cold up here for April.
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They're here!!
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Barring any problems, I should be rolling by mid to late afternoon Thursday. If not, the Vrod will see a lot of action this weekend with everyone coming down/over for the races at Barber.
BULLCHIT!!!!!! If you're not rollin' by Friday, we'll help you get 'er back together so you can try 'er out, buddy!!!! You've gotta have it to show off at the races! :nixweiss: :2vrolijk_21:
Congrats on finally getting them! Let's see some pix!!!!
:worthless: :worthless:
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That's great news Terry :huepfenjump3: :orange: :bananarock:
Those wheels will look better that you've imagined :2vrolijk_21: Can't wait to see the photo's. Hope the complete install goes smooth & painless :)
By the way.... :worthless: :huepfenjump3:
What rear braided brake line did you go with??
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They're here!!
I should be rolling by mid to late afternoon Thursday. If not, the Vrod will see a lot of action this weekend with everyone coming down/over for the races at Barber.
Mid afternoon Thursday my lilly white hairy ass. Diva is wandering around an empty upstairs with the dogs listening to the oath filled melodies of Terry working downstairs right now. He'll be back upstairs later Diva. Just a few hours later..... :drink:
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Terry
Here's the installation steps you need to follow.
1) Install the wheels.
2) Take pictures.
3) Post on website.
4) Go for a ride.
This order is very critical to maintain happy members.
Any questions call dOOd. He will fax you the same instructions!
:2vrolijk_21:
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You missed a couple steps. Here's the proper order:
1) Take pictures.
2) Post on website. :worthless:
3) Install the wheels.
4) Take more pictures.
5) Post on website. :worthless:
6) Go for a ride.
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You missed a couple steps. Here's the proper order:
1) Take pictures.
2) Post on website. :worthless:
3) Install the wheels.
4) Take more pictures.
5) Post on website. :worthless:
6) Go for a ride.
:oops: can't argue when a mans right!
Terry,,,,,,,,,, Follow the above directions!
:2vrolijk_21:
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:oops: can't argue when a mans right!
Terry,,,,,,,,,, Follow the above directions!
:2vrolijk_21:
What they said :worthless:
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If you need the proper sequential code of conduct on custom wheel delivery,installation and imbibing of toxicants you can use my thread as a template. I think the format works well for my site Brothers. Now lets get er done. Can't wait any more. C'mon Terry!
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If you need the proper sequential code of conduct on custom wheel delivery,installation and imbibing of toxicants you can use my thread as a template. I think the format works well for my site Brothers. Now lets get er done. Can't wait any more. C'mon Terry!
Yeah, that's what I'm talkin' about! :2vrolijk_21: :huepfenjump3: :worthless:
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18's front and back or 18 rear 21 front are the most popular swap . a 120 x21 up front .
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Update: Got the front wheel on, calipers, rear brake line (a bit of a bitch...Grover, went with the PM braided all the way...I'm sure they don't make it, but that way I knew it would be the right one), new junction block for rear brake switch, and have the rear caliper bled. I'm having a hell of a time getting the front two calipers bled...lot's of cussing and they've still got air in them. Waiting on the rear rotor to arrive by UPS any time now, then I'll bolt in on and get the back end put back together.
The wheels are awesome!! Really goes well with the curved stripes on the front fender.
Sorry for the lack of pics right now, but I'll post some when I get everything on...the basement looks like a tornado went through it, with tools everywhere, plastic on the front fender, blah, blah, blah.
I've bled brakes many time in my life, but these are the most difficult I've ever tried to do...a real MF. Still don't have them right. Takes a while to get the calipers shimmed so that they are centered on the rotors. I don't get why the brakes won't bleed, but I let things settle overnight (got in bed about 3 AM), so will try again in a few minutes.
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(got in bed about 3 AM)
Knew it!
How much shimming did you have to do Terry. With the HH's I put on recently the left side was ok and the right side needed only the slightest bit. I'm always cussing bleeding dual front calipers on these things too. Screwed around two hours on the red bike with its new one. Though the first hour plus a little was just letting it gravity bleed after getting it all hooked up. Couldn't find my damn syringes to fill the calipers first. At least it's not DOT5. That chit can waste your whole weekend if it gets shook up.
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Knew it!
How much shimming did you have to do Terry. With the HH's I put on recently the left side was ok and the right side needed only the slightest bit. I'm always cussing bleeding dual front calipers on these things too. Screwed around two hours on the red bike with its new one. Though the first hour plus a little was just letting it gravity bleed after getting it all hooked up. Couldn't find my damn syringes to fill the calipers first. At least it's not DOT5. That chit can waste your whole weekend if it gets shook up.
You can say that again.
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Didn't have to do a lot of shimming, Don, but you know the drill...bolt it up as is, check top and bottom centerline, pull bolts, wiggle the shim under there, or take it out, rinse, repeat. It's just more tedious than difficult, and the basement floor gets hard!! Was a difference in top and bottom. Had the wheel on in 20 minutes. PM sends their spacers...a bit more tapered than what comes on the bike. I really need the flush axle, but maybe later.
I've let the damn things gravity bleed, pumped, vacuumed...hopefully, the air has settled now and I'll get them done in a few minutes. Like you said, at least it's not DOT 5. Aggravating...
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Didn't have to do a lot of shimming, Don, but you know the drill...bolt it up as is, check top and bottom centerline, pull bolts, wiggle the shim under there, or take it out, rinse, repeat. It's just more tedious than difficult, and the basement floor gets hard!! Was a difference in top and bottom. Had the wheel on in 20 minutes. PM sends their spacers...a bit more tapered than what comes on the bike. I really need the flush axle, but maybe later.
I've let the damn things gravity bleed, pumped, vacuumed...hopefully, the air has settled now and I'll get them done in a few minutes. Like you said, at least it's not DOT 5. Aggravating...
For gravity bleeding, have you got one of those lid-thingies you can screw on to a bottle of brake fluid and then tip the whole thing upside down on the master cylinder reservoir? Keeps it full and flowing. It's even good for regular bleeding too as you never have to worry about pulling the master cylinder dry (unless you empty the whole damn bottle).
Mine weren't really too bad this time (though I always cuss that little task). Had the bleeder bottles catching fluid out of the bottom bleeders for an hour or so. Then close it all up and bled through the top bleeders to finish pushing out whatever air was left. I use a one way valve and a little catch bottle for that last bit of bleeding so I can do it slow and watch the bubbles.
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For gravity bleeding, have you got one of those lid-thingies you can screw on to a bottle of brake fluid and then tip the whole thing upside down on the master cylinder reservoir? Keeps it full and flowing. It's even good for regular bleeding too as you never have to worry about pulling the master cylinder dry (unless you empty the whole damn bottle).
Mine weren't really too bad this time (though I always cuss that little task). Had the bleeder bottles catching fluid out of the bottom bleeders for an hour or so. Then close it all up and bled through the top bleeders to finish pushing out whatever air was left. I use a one way valve and a little catch bottle for that last bit of bleeding so I can do it slow and watch the bubbles.
No, I don't have that thingie to put the bottle on top of the master...that would help. I haven't seen one of those...where did you pick that up?
Anyway, got the things bled pretty well, though I'll have a better feel for it when the pads seat to the new rotors.
I'll take some better pics tomorrow, as these were snapped when I pulled it out to wipe off all the fingerprints before I put the bags back on. Besides, it shows the stealth chrome a bit better.
I'm very happy with the look of the whole job, and the bike feels a lot different...the slight increase in overall diameter of the front (about 1/2 inch) feels a bit different, but in a good way. I think most of the difference I'm feeling is from the Metzler tires...they seem to fall over in the curves a bit easier than the stock tires, which I like a lot.
Anyway, here's a couple of pics...
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Front wheel, rotors and PM calipers...
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Rear, right side...
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Rear, left side...
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Immediately after getting things put back together, Suzanne and I rode to a local Mexican place to meet Tbone (Bob)& Ilene, Jerry (Ultrafxr) & J Carolyn, Tommy (07hd110), and John (Johnny). It was great to see everyone again, and meet John for the first time. After a couple of Margahooties and/or Modelos, we retired to the parking lot to talk about all the stuff we've all done to our bikes.
We're meeting up in the AM to ride a bit, then meeting Brian and JR about noon to go visit the Barber museum and ride a bit. Weather forcast looks great the next few days, so there will be a lot more pics and ride reports by Sunday night!!
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It looks great Terry. Should be very proud and pleased. Very nice indeed. :2vrolijk_21:
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Looks great Terry, glad you got her on the road. Sounds like a few days of great riding. :2vrolijk_21:
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That looks sweeeeeeeeet.I had to put my shades on because all that bling was blinding. ;) Did you get the braided rear brake line from Hogpro or directly from PM?
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Nice job Terry :2vrolijk_21: You made a great choice with those wheels. The bike looks sweet. Have fun riding this weekend. Downside about all the new chrome for me at least is now I need more time to detail before going out for a jaunt. Later,Q
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That looks sweeeeeeeeet.I had to put my shades on because all that bling was blinding. ;) Did you get the braided rear brake line from Hogpro or directly from PM?
HD...got the brake line through HogPro, but had looked it all up on the PM website. The "kit" includes a braided line from the master to the area on the lower frame just below the oil filler spout where our rear stoplight switch is located, a machined aluminum block with three compression fittings...one for the stop light switch which you take off the old brake line, one going to the master, and one going to the real caliper...and of course the rear part of the braided line. The juntion block for the lines is a tight fit...there's an indexing protrusion on the block which did not line up exactly right, so out came the Dremel tool, cut the thing off, and loctited the block onto the frame using the same screw from the old takeoff. Worked out just fine. I have the chrome filler spout, so don't know if that caused the slight fitment issue or not, but it's not a big deal to make it work. Use a bit of teflon tape on the threads of the stoplight switch.
The service manual has you taking off the right lower fairing/glove box to remove the old brake line, which is a rigid piece of steel tubing back to the switch junction...from that point to the rear caliper is the rubber hose part of the brake line..., and it would make things a tiny bit more accessable, but you can get a socket on the end of the master cylinder to get the banjo bolt out, cut a couple of wire ties holding it to the lower frame, release a couple of plastic clamps on the rear swingarm, unplug two spade connectors to the switch, and the whole line pulls out with a bit of wiggling.
With the new assembly, you'd have to remove the block connection if you ever needed to remove the oil filler spout, but there's enough slack in the braided lines to get that part out of the way. If you wanted the chrome spout (I had already put that piece on there a few months ago) it would be a good time to do that if installing new brake lines. Actually the best time to put the chrome spout on is if you have the exhaust headers off for any reason, then you can get to all the socket head allen bolts with a ratchet, otherwise the two bottom bolts are tedious to get in there.
The PM rear caliper is the same one as the front, but comes in a box with the rear swingarm bracket to hold it in place. Bleed the caliper before bolting it onto the bracket...makes life easier.
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Nice job Terry :2vrolijk_21: You made a great choice with those wheels. The bike looks sweet. Have fun riding this weekend. Downside about all the new chrome for me at least is now I need more time to detail before going out for a jaunt. Later,Q
Thanks Q...I'm happy with the whole thing and glad I made the choice I did as the wheels tend to flow with the fender/tank curved stripes. That's the look I was going for anyway. PM wheels are nicely done, as are the calipers/rotors. Chrome is impeccable.
Just a bit more bling to polish!!
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No, I don't have that thingie to put the bottle on top of the master...that would help. I haven't seen one of those...where did you pick that up?
Anyway, got the things bled pretty well, though I'll have a better feel for it when the pads seat to the new rotors.
I'll take some better pics tomorrow, as these were snapped when I pulled it out to wipe off all the fingerprints before I put the bags back on. Besides, it shows the stealth chrome a bit better.
I'm very happy with the look of the whole job, and the bike feels a lot different...the slight increase in overall diameter of the front (about 1/2 inch) feels a bit different, but in a good way. I think most of the difference I'm feeling is from the Metzler tires...they seem to fall over in the curves a bit easier than the stock tires, which I like a lot.
Anyway, here's a couple of pics...
I'm sure it does, now that your wallet is so much lighter. It's like getting 5 extra hp!! Good job looks great. :2vrolijk_21:
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The finished product (we know their never finished LOL's) really looks nice :2vrolijk_21: . It was well thought out and it was nice you could do it yourself even with the aggravation on the bleeding/install. I don't know what the 18" Metzeler's need for air pressure but my 16" run 42F and 48R.. You will find you will really like the 880's and I know the Elite 3's from Dunlop are a fine tire as well. Will never go back to the stock tires.
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OMG, nice looking Ride :2vrolijk_21:
Really gives the scoot a whole different look
You did well
jeffj
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Terry,
Only one word describes these additions..... BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!! Job well done. :2vrolijk_21:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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:cool26: Lookin' Good! :biggthumpup:
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No, I don't have that thingie to put the bottle on top of the master...that would help. I haven't seen one of those...where did you pick that up?
Anyway, got the things bled pretty well, though I'll have a better feel for it when the pads seat to the new rotors.
I'll take some better pics tomorrow, as these were snapped when I pulled it out to wipe off all the fingerprints before I put the bags back on. Besides, it shows the stealth chrome a bit better.
I'm very happy with the look of the whole job, and the bike feels a lot different...the slight increase in overall diameter of the front (about 1/2 inch) feels a bit different, but in a good way. I think most of the difference I'm feeling is from the Metzler tires...they seem to fall over in the curves a bit easier than the stock tires, which I like a lot.
Anyway, here's a couple of pics...
Terry,
That is an awesome looking change.Obviously I am partial to the color scheme to begin with. ;D ;D john
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Thanks for info on the brake line Terry. I already have the chrome oil filler spout and I am going to remove that bracket that the rt exhaust attaches to at the oil filler spout and either get it chrome plated or powder coated so I guess I better get that done before I change out the line.
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Terry, looks great ! :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: I like your choice. Tbone will certainly cave now! Ya'll have fun !
PS: you forgot to put your bags back on :huepfenlol2:
:cherry:
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Looks incredible Terry. :2vrolijk_21:
I'll bet you're really sportin' the wood on that bling mobile :huepfenlol2: :huepfenjump3:
You can actually drive that thing around without the bags on....Looks amazing!
You ought to be proud of your blood, sweat & beers install.
The finished product is absolutely fantastic. Great Job!
Enjoy the races this weekend :)
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Thanks everybody!!! I'm really enjoying the wheels, and the brakes are getting seated in now and the difference in feel is really nice thus far. I'm sure that will improve with a couple of hundred more miles on the system and things settle in. The Metzler tires are fantastic!! Very different feel to the bike...much easier to fall into a turn. The whole package, with the new forks, new brakes, and new tires makes an incredible difference! Of course, just knowing the wheels are out there spinning doesn't hurt either!
We're having a great time...it is truely a blast to have all the CVO members here in town and getting to show them some pretty parts of the B'ham area. Pics and ride report will follow...we just got in from eating some great food at my favorite place to eat and drink, so I think everyone is having a good time...wish more of you could be here :2vrolijk_21:
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Hey! Terry
Very nice good choice on wheels and brakes, the bike looks totally different :2vrolijk_21:
Don
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I wish I could see the finished product Terry. From the sounds of everything, it must look great. I'll check it out tomorrow after I get back from York. Best of luck with the new bike! It's gotta feel like a new bike, right! Hoist! 8)
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I wish I could see the finished product Terry. From the sounds of everything, it must look great. I'll check it out tomorrow after I get back from York. Best of luck with the new bike! It's gotta feel like a new bike, right! Hoist! 8)
Indeed it does, Howie :2vrolijk_21: The brakes are getting seated in nicely now, so everything is working together in a much better way from the bike I was riding a month ago. Remarkable difference!! I can actually feel what's going on with the bike at all times now!
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Wow, really looks fantastic. :cherry:
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Fantastic, Terry! Looks great and sounds like you're very pleased with the improved handling/stopping. You do really nice work.
Tony
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Fantastic, Terry! Looks great and sounds like you're very pleased with the improved handling/stopping. You do really nice work.
Tony
I am very pleased, Tony. I've got about 300 miles on the new stuff now and can see from the rotors that the pads are almost completely seated now. I can really feel a difference in how the front and rear calipers perform compared to the stock stuff. A much more progressive feel with both pedal and lever which I think is a combination of both the Lyndal pads all around, and the differential bore calipers...where before it was like squeezing a brick, it's now more like sqeezing a piece of hard rubber with a small amount of give to it. The tires are SO much better than the stock 402's, I'll never go back!! I'm sure the E-3's are close to the same thing since the thread pattern is very similar, so either would be a good choice, IMO.
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I just had my HD dealer install my pair of Dunlop Elite III's and first impression
I like them as they seem to have a little firmer bite and don't seem to follow the cracks in highway
Plan to put some rounds on the scooter in the next few weeks and will keep everyone posted
So far I give them a :2vrolijk_21:
jeffj
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Terry,
How sweet is THAT! Everything looks awesome, what a beautiful job! Congrats on all the work. Really came out nice.
:2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
Ed :pepper:
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Terry,
How sweet is THAT! Everything looks awesome, what a beautiful job! Congrats on all the work. Really came out nice.
:2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
Ed :pepper:
Thanks Ed!!! Good to see you back...don't be such a stranger :2vrolijk_21:
One other aside...since changing wheels/tires, I've noticed that the reading on the speedometer/GPS is almost exactly the same where before the speedo was always showing 2 or 3 MPH faster than actual GPS speed. The stock Dunlop when new is 25.71" in overall diameter and 5.51" wide. The 16" Metzler 880 with same load rating is 25.90 and 5.75 wide, so it's a bit larger tire in each dimension. So the speedo reading makes sense...
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So did you go with the hogpro tourque wheels or the pm wheels... sorry little confused.
I have 1 2006 se ultra also and am considering same job!!
thanks
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So did you go with the hogpro tourque wheels or the pm wheels... sorry little confused.
I have 1 2006 se ultra also and am considering same job!!
thanks
Bet he won't notice this since his last post in this thread was in '07. :) spyder
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Can you tell by reading the thread?
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By the date on the last 'post'. spyder
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No NO..lol I meant could you tell what kind of wheels he installed. I want them..lol
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No NO..lol I meant could you tell what kind of wheels he installed. I want them..lol
If I remember correctly Terry got his wheels (and tires and brakes and brake line) from HogPro. Believe he chose a Performance Machine wheel called Torque. It's been awhile but that's my recollection.
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After reading the thread, I believe you are correct on both accounts. :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: har. spyder