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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2007, 05:18:11 PM »

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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2007, 06:15:02 PM »

Oh it is so much fun though. :huepfenlol2:

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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2007, 06:17:56 PM »

It's the only way to FLY, right d00d?
Oh yea!!! You try to be good and ease on the throttle and all of a sudden you feel this surge and your evil twin takes over and you find yourself twisting the wick, and slamming gears. Wooooo Hoooo!!!!

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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2007, 07:53:28 PM »

pete at zippers had his installers put RH true dualls and auto tune my rk sc in daytona rh will fit just use the spacers rh gives you everything works so good now( a bad ass bike )going and getting lab top so i can do i little tweeking and be able to get hd warranty
on ecm out of my mind i will not need them auto tune will tell me everything i want know got a few years warranty but for the tire and rims i got great price for some reason i allways get nails or screws in my tires ill be happy to get a few tires for my warranty money pete thanks my friend has 110 battery goes dead like in 3 or 4 days if tender not on the bike hd says that what he has to do to keep battery charged no battery should go dead that fast mine doesn,t do that they said battery fine i love harleys but not all the crap you have to put up with to keep your warranty and all that epa junk epa lets
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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2007, 04:54:12 PM »

On the Rineharts loudness - for some who wish to tone them down a bit, the baffles can be wrapped (high heat fiberglass).  Takes some of the "edge" off them.  FYI
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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2007, 09:34:38 PM »

On the Rinehart true duals, I think they come with a 2.125 baffle as stock.  They offer a 2.5" baffle and a 2.0 inch baffle. I havfe heard, but not confirmed, that the 2.0 baffle is quieter, and also offers a slight torque oncrease. Best to give them a call and find out.  If so, please post, becasue I would also be interested in a good answer.

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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2007, 01:36:17 PM »

Rhino - I spoke to the tech guy at Bub re: Rinehart on this sound issue already.  The "quiet baffle" has only slightly less sound output as compared to the sound output of the performance baffles, which the tech recommended if a quieter pipe was preferable.  Plus, you get a little tweak up in HP/torque with the performance baffles - did not say how much. 

I plan to try the fiberglass packing first, since it costs less and should not affect performance.

I considered the Vance & Hines true duals, but the charts I have seen indicate the Rineharts outperform them.  2 in 1 is better performance-wise, but I like the true dual system for a number of reasons.

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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2007, 01:50:15 PM »

I almost went with V&H's 2 into 1 - but decided to do the Dresser Duals with Khrome Werks mufflers. I didn't want to mess with the Rineharts fit problems (07 SERK).
What are some of the reasons you like the 2 into 2 over the 2 into 1?
I like the looks of the 2 into 2 better and it helps to reduce the heat that I use to get from the right side of my bike with the stock system.
I know the 2 into 1 performs better - but I just don't like the look (sorry to those that have them!)
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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2007, 02:02:21 PM »

I almost went with V&H's 2 into 1 - but decided to do the Dresser Duals with Khrome Werks mufflers. I didn't want to mess with the Rineharts fit problems (07 SERK).
What are some of the reasons you like the 2 into 2 over the 2 into 1?
I like the looks of the 2 into 2 better and it helps to reduce the heat that I use to get from the right side of my bike with the stock system.
I know the 2 into 1 performs better - but I just don't like the look (sorry to those that have them!)

3 main reasons:

The heat issue you referred to already - right/left side is even with 2/2.

The ability to tune each cylinder independently of the other.

The "look" - 2/2 gives the bike a balanced look and the $&*$@#$  >:( crossover pipe is eliminated.



There is a 4th reason on the Rineharts.  I had one of the very first sets of true duals they offered and had several issues - bracket broke, ate a hole in the left header with the Kuryakyn passenger adjustable peg mount, and the first set of baffles were incorrect length (stock baffles) and they chewed a little hole in the bottom of each muffler.  In each and every case, Bub (Rinehart manufacturer) sent repalcement parts at no charge - also free shipping.  In one instance they overnighted since we had a trip planned and they made SURE the new headers were there so I would not miss it.  After all these issues, they have given me no trouble.  That is what I get for getting the first versions of new products, but sometimes I just refuse to remember why. ;D  The performance they gave my 02 RK was well worth all of it. ;D
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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2007, 07:53:54 PM »

Rhino - I spoke to the tech guy at Bub re: Rinehart on this sound issue already.  The "quiet baffle" has only slightly less sound output as compared to the sound output of the performance baffles, which the tech recommended if a quieter pipe was preferable.  Plus, you get a little tweak up in HP/torque with the performance baffles - did not say how much. 

I plan to try the fiberglass packing first, since it costs less and should not affect performance.

I considered the Vance & Hines true duals, but the charts I have seen indicate the Rineharts outperform them.  2 in 1 is better performance-wise, but I like the true dual system for a number of reasons.

Depending on what you want for performance and your riding style.  If you're looking for a couple extra ponies up around 5500 rpms, then the Rineharts are your duals, torque-wise, they have roughly the same peak with the Vance and Hines coming in a bit earlier at around 2.7-3k and the Rineharts coming in around 3.5-4k.  I spend most of my riding in the 2-3k range, so the torque coming in with the V&H's fits my riding style better.  I'm never up in the 6K range.  You have to go with what works for your riding style. JMHO.
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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2007, 08:01:11 PM »


I plan to try the fiberglass packing first, since it costs less and should not affect performance.


I wrapped mine last year to take the edge off and it didn't seem to do a thing for them. The glass makes a big difference in the Kerker's, but I couldn't hear a bit of difference with the glass in the Rinehart's. I ended up with the quiet baffle; works.

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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2007, 08:14:14 AM »

Red - I noticed a better power band overall when riding with the Rineharts - with stock pipes the 02 RK was nothing much when under 2k, but with them it was noticably better.  Close frind has the V & H & loves them so it is individual preference. They are a quieter pipe.

djkak - Thanks for the info.  If I get the same results, I will go with the performance baffle most likely.
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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2007, 08:20:40 AM »

Red - I noticed a better power band overall when riding with the Rineharts - with stock pipes the 02 RK was nothing much when under 2k, but with them it was noticably better.  Close frind has the V & H & loves them so it is individual preference. They are a quieter pipe.

djkak - Thanks for the info.  If I get the same results, I will go with the performance baffle most likely.
Over the stock pipes, they both offer better performance overall.  :)  But if you look at the dyno charts you'll see that the non-stepped headers generally hit their peak torque earlier than the stepped headers do.  You're right it's an individual preference to your riding style, looks, sound and what you expect to get out of them. 
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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2007, 10:57:14 PM »

Rhino - I spoke to the tech guy at Bub re: Rinehart on this sound issue already.  The "quiet baffle" has only slightly less sound output as compared to the sound output of the performance baffles, which the tech recommended if a quieter pipe was preferable.  Plus, you get a little tweak up in HP/torque with the performance baffles - did not say how much. 

I plan to try the fiberglass packing first, since it costs less and should not affect performance.

I considered the Vance & Hines true duals, but the charts I have seen indicate the Rineharts outperform them.  2 in 1 is better performance-wise, but I like the true dual system for a number of reasons.



Thanks ISKIFREELY

I was wondering about that issue.  Take care!

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Re: Rinehart True Duals vs V&H Dresser Duals
« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2007, 11:28:21 PM »

All the parts are in - pipes, SERT, etc. and time scheduled on the dyno next week as well.

Have a weekend trip planned, so won't install until next week, due to travel schedule, but the jester is jonseing for more torque.  Or mebbe its me????

I'll post results.
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