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[cvosjoe]

Just thought I would share the dyno sheet from the mods I made to the Skunk.

Fullsac x pipe
4" Rinehart slip ons
SE 259E cams



I am pleased with the results as it works great for my riding style. Bike is set up as solo only and I like to cruise with the engine in the 2500+ rpm range.

Thinking there may be some more mods this winter. Heads, pistons, throttle body and a different header pipe.

Thanks Doc, the bike runs great.

[North Star]

Looks good. Why do you want to change out your x pipe?

[cvosjoe]

Looks good. Why do you want to change out your x pipe?

With the increased air flow of heads work and the larger throttle body I believe a 1.75 head pipe would work better than the fullsac 1.5 head pipe. I will probably do some more research before I decide for sure on changing the header pipe.

[willyB]

Glad you posted this as I am considering the 259 cams. Should be a real runner.

[Fattbaggernknox]

It runs very good...Ask me how I know..

[Beemer]

How about showing us the SAE sheet

[cvosjoe]

How about showing us the SAE sheet

106hp 118tq

[Fullsac Performance]

106hp 118tq

Nice dyno chart Joe! Doc did a good job. By the way, my X Pipe does not use 1.5 tubing. It starts at 1.625 and steps to 1.750.
If you really want a bigger one, the C version for the 120R is on the way. It starts at 1.750.

Steve

[cvosjoe]

Nice dyno chart Joe! Doc did a good job. By the way, my X Pipe does not use 1.5 tubing. It starts at 1.625 and steps to 1.750.
If you really want a bigger one, the C version for the 120R is on the way. It starts at 1.750.

Steve

Thanks for the correction on the pipe size. Do you make the C version with the dual position O2 sensors locations?

[Beemer]

106hp 118tq

Are the 259E cams really that good?  Outstanding

[Fullsac Performance]

Thanks for the correction on the pipe size. Do you make the C version with the dual position O2 sensors locations?

when it becomes available, yes.

Steve

[Fullsac Performance]

Are the 259E cams really that good?  Outstanding

I think its time to try one myself.

Steve

[FLSTFI Dave]

It runs very good...Ask me how I know..

That was fun to watch on US 1.  I was on the 09 behind you guys.

[Fattbaggernknox]

Yea I gotta take  mine to Matoon IL this winter for a proper tune like I had on my 09..Its popping thru the ac & pretty much running a canned map.

[Beemer]

I think its time to try one myself.

Steve

Steve,

Let us know how it compares to what you're running now.

[darth davidson]

I just spoke with Doc. Super nice guy. I'll be taking my SERGU very soon.

[Frankcsal]

Is this the Doc's you are talking about:

Doc's Performance Tuning
352-404-6999
317 E Washington St. unit A
Minneola, Florida 34715

[cvosjoe]

Is this the Doc's you are talking about:

Doc's Performance Tuning
352-404-6999
317 E Washington St. unit A
Minneola, Florida 34715

Yes. He's tuned 2 bikes for me so far and they both run great.

[WYD OPN]

Yea I gotta take  mine to Matoon IL this winter for a proper tune like I had on my 09..Its popping thru the ac & pretty much running a canned map.

Clue me/us in... What's in Mattoon, IL?

[Cvostu]

Those numbers look very impressive.   How did it effect the heat issue and is the gas milage ok?

[wachuko]

I just spoke with Doc. Super nice guy. I'll be taking my SERGU very soon.

He is around an hour away...hummmmm

[Fattbaggernknox]

Clue me/us in... What's in Mattoon, IL?

STROKERJLK :Paradise Cycles, He tuned my 09 & was very, very pleased!

[WYD OPN]

STROKERJLK :Paradise Cycles, He tuned my 09 & was very, very pleased!

Thanx, I'll check him out.  I'm less than an hour from Mattoon.

[cvosjoe]

Those numbers look very impressive.   How did it effect the heat issue and is the gas milage ok?

No heat problems at all. It takes a lot of stop and go traffic before the parade duty cycle kicks in. Gas mileage is good. About 45 mpg if you drive in the 55 to 75 range. Drops to around 40 mpg if you maintain 80+ mph.

[darth davidson]

He is around an hour away...hummmmm

Just about. With the tuner and the tuning you are looking to about $800

[wachuko]

Just about. With the tuner and the tuning you are looking to about $800

Thank you! 

I already have the Dynojet PowerVision with the map provided from FuelMoto.  Bike is running great, but would love to know what is actually doing and if the map matches the bike exactly... There is an auto-tune function that I might try before spending additional $ with the Doc.

[darth davidson]

Thank you! 

I already have the Dynojet PowerVision with the map provided from FuelMoto.  Bike is running great, but would love to know what is actually doing and if the map matches the bike exactly... There is an auto-tune function that I might try before spending additional $ with the Doc.

I'll let you know when I am having mine done.

[cptdenny]

No heat problems at all. It takes a lot of stop and go traffic before the parade duty cycle kicks in. Gas mileage is good. About 45 mpg if you drive in the 55 to 75 range. Drops to around 40 mpg if you maintain 80+ mph.

Your gas mileage is great.  After my mods I'm down to 29-34 mpg .  I wonder if Doc can improve those figures with his tune.  Mine was done at dealership on dyno using a SE tuner.  My cams are T-Man 625.  Polished & Ported heads, heavy duty pistons, titanium valves, HD adjustable push rods, Full Sac 2" baffles with X-Pipe.
Dyno shows 110 HP. 120 TQ.

[cvosjoe]

Your gas mileage is great.  After my mods I'm down to 29-34 mpg .  I wonder if Doc can improve those figures with his tune.  Mine was done at dealership on dyno using a SE tuner.  My cams are T-Man 625.  Polished & Ported heads, heavy duty pistons, titanium valves, HD adjustable push rods, Full Sac 2" baffles with X-Pipe.
Dyno shows 110 HP. 120 TQ.

If you have the opportunity I would definitely get Doc to tune it for you. Gas mileage is definitely out of wack. For all that you have done to your engine the dyno numbers seem off especially the HP. My STD dyno numbers are 109HP and 121TQ and SAE numbers are 106HP and 118TQ with just SE259E cams, Fullsac X-pipe and 4" Rineharts.

[Unbalanced]

Numbers might not be off, depends on who did the headwork and the combination.   Many claim to get you XYZ, but fail to deliver even if it is claimed that it is a walk in the park.  Gas Mileage I suspect is correctable to the 35-40 mpg.   

[cptdenny]

If you have the opportunity I would definitely get Doc to tune it for you. Gas mileage is definitely out of wack. For all that you have done to your engine the dyno numbers seem off especially the HP. My STD dyno numbers are 109HP and 121TQ and SAE numbers are 106HP and 118TQ with just SE259E cams, Fullsac X-pipe and 4" Rineharts.

I brought my mpg issue to my service manager last weekend.  He told me they'll lean it out more on the dyno.  I was told I could bring it in on Wednesday, but no way am bringing it in on the day before Thanksgiving.  Ill wait till next week.

In the mean time I want to disconnect the battery for a few minutes, then reconnect.  Start the bike up and run it to operating temp for several minutes without touching the throttle.  Then shut it down.

This has helped my '06 Gold Wing by resetting the ECM I believe, or it's air to fuel ratio back to stock ratio.  In the past I gained back about 5 mpg on the Wing when I notice the mpg slipping down.

Has anyone done this on a Harley?

When I brought this up at another dealership service department, they looked like I was talking Greek to them.

BTW on my last fill up riding very conservatively, all I got was 29 mpg. 

[Fattbaggernknox]

Just thought I would share the dyno sheet from the mods I made to the Skunk.

Fullsac x pipe
4" Rinehart slip ons
SE 259E cams



I am pleased with the results as it works great for my riding style. Bike is set up as solo only and I like to cruise with the engine in the 2500+ rpm range.
Heading to IL in the morning to get my bike tuned after adding the 58mm tb, 5.3inj & RB Racing black hole spyder pipe. I'm hoping to see some sweet results from the combination! Taking the wifes deluxe for a cam change & tune after I added a 2-1 & a/c as well.. Will post results  when it's complete!
Thinking there may be some more mods this winter. Heads, pistons, throttle body and a different header pipe.

Thanks Doc, the bike runs great.

[Midnight Rider]

I brought my mpg issue to my service manager last weekend.  He told me they'll lean it out more on the dyno.  I was told I could bring it in on Wednesday, but no way am bringing it in on the day before Thanksgiving.  Ill wait till next week.

In the mean time I want to disconnect the battery for a few minutes, then reconnect.  Start the bike up and run it to operating temp for several minutes without touching the throttle.  Then shut it down.
This has helped my '06 Gold Wing by resetting the ECM I believe, or it's air to fuel ratio back to stock ratio.  In the past I gained back about 5 mpg on the Wing when I notice the mpg slipping down.
Has anyone done this on a Harley?
When I brought this up at another dealership service department, they looked like I was talking Greek to them.
BTW on my last fill up riding very conservatively, all I got was 29 mpg. 

That won't do squat to the fuel mileage.  The program in your ECM is what it is, based on what the tuner put in there.  It will be that until it's changed with the SERT connected.  Your mileage is awful...if riding conservatively, your mileage should be 40mpg or better.  I'd say it's way too rich and/or they've got it in open loop mode all the time.

[cptdenny]

That won't do squat to the fuel mileage.  The program in your ECM is what it is, based on what the tuner put in there.  It will be that until it's changed with the SERT connected.  Your mileage is awful...if riding conservatively, your mileage should be 40mpg or better.  I'd say it's way too rich and/or they've got it in open loop mode all the time.

Well after talking to my tuner, he said he can only increase my mileage by 2-3 mpg if I was willing to sacrifice performance.  He said he done this for two other customers and both came back to get their performance back.

It's been windy lately but taking it easy on the throttle all I got was 27.8 mpg on the last tankful.
Keep in mind that my build is a Stage lll if that makes a difference in mpg.  My dealership tuner says that 31-33 mpg is normal for my type of build. Which I get when there's no head wind to contend with.

I'm thinking of calling Doc here in Florida and hear what he has to say after the holidays.  I know he prefers Master Tune, not sure if he'll work with a Screaming Eagle tuner.

[SCRM-R]

Well after talking to my tuner, he said he can only increase my mileage by 2-3 mpg if I was willing to sacrifice performance.  He said he done this for two other customers and both came back to get their performance back.

It's been windy lately but taking it easy on the throttle all I got was 27.8 mpg on the last tankful.
Keep in mind that my build is a Stage lll if that makes a difference in mpg.  My dealership tuner says that 31-33 mpg is normal for my type of build. Which I get when there's no head wind to contend with.

I'm thinking of calling Doc here in Florida and hear what he has to say after the holidays.  I know he prefers Master Tune, not sure if he'll work with a Screaming Eagle tuner.

Yes he does, and does a dang fine job with it.  He also trains other tuners on the Screamin' Eagle Race Tuner, as well as the Mastertune.

[cptdenny]

Yes he does, and does a dang fine job with it.  He also trains other tuners on the Screamin' Eagle Race Tuner, as well as the Mastertune.

Great to know, thanks so much!

[cvo599]

Just thought I would share the dyno sheet from the mods I made to the Skunk.

Fullsac x pipe
4" Rinehart slip ons
SE 259E cams



I am pleased with the results as it works great for my riding style. Bike is set up as solo only and I like to cruise with the engine in the 2500+ rpm range.
Did
Thinking there may be some more mods this winter. Heads, pistons, throttle body and a different header pipe.

Thanks Doc, the bike runs great.

    did you do the high compression pistons with this or just stock ones?

[cptdenny]

    did you do the high compression pistons with this or just stock ones?

What's your MPG?

[cvosjoe]

    did you do the high compression pistons with this or just stock ones?

Stock compression for now but I'm in the process of replacing the throttle body, pistons and having the heads ported.

[cvosjoe]

What's your MPG?

About 45 mpg if you drive in the 55 to 75 range. Drops to around 40 mpg if you maintain 80+ mph.

[cvo599]

I have a 2012 cvo road glide with d and s fatcat with q baffle 259e cam 10.5 to 1 pistons an screamin eagle pro super tuner nor done yet but what kind of numbers should i get

[cvo599]

Just picked it up 110 horse 125 torque , it runs but it's freezing cold and I can't ride it

[cptdenny]

 I have an appointment with Doc next Wed 11 Jan 2012. He plans to redo my dyno from my dealership and replace my HD SE Pro tuner.  I'm sure it will be money well spent and my MPG average should rise from it's 30 MPG average.

[BADBAGG]

Joe ,

Sounds like the Skunk is running well. I also have the 259-e cams. I have the 10.5-1 comp pistons , D & D Fat Cat and Master Tune. I have been running this combo for about 11k miles. Bike runs great. Been about a year or so. Couldnt tell you what the gas mileage is, i just ride the balls of it and put gas in when its low 

[FLSTFI Dave]

Badbagg.

Is that dyno chart SAE corrected?  Smoothing?  Just curious.

Looks like it would be a blast, over 120 torque for just over a 1500 rpm band and over 110 for a 3500 rpm band.

Do you have any head work? 

[cvosjoe]

Badbagg.

Is that dyno chart SAE corrected?  Smoothing?  Just curious.

Looks like it would be a blast, over 120 torque for just over a 1500 rpm band and over 110 for a 3500 rpm band.

Do you have any head work? 

Dave,
It looks like a STD dyno sheet.

Badbagg,
Numbers look good. I'll bet it's fun to ride. Just added the SE 10.5 to 1 pistons, HPI 55mm Throttle Body and had the heads ported by Head Designs by Dewey. Runs well but can't wait to get it on the dyno and see the results.

[Fattbaggernknox]

Dave,
It looks like a STD dyno sheet.

Badbagg,
Numbers look good. I'll bet it's fun to ride. Just added the SE 10.5 to 1 pistons, HPI 55mm Throttle Body and had the heads ported by Head Designs by Dewey. Runs well but can't wait to get it on the dyno and see the results.

Did you add the 5.3inj as well? I'll be curious to see how your addl mods compliment the build. I have a new set of MVA heads but waiting til I have to tear into it to add them.

[cvosjoe]

Did you add the 5.3inj as well? I'll be curious to see how your addl mods compliment the build. I have a new set of MVA heads but waiting til I have to tear into it to add them.

I kind of wondered about changing the injectors as well but Doc said to use the stock ones. I looked at getting the MVA heads also but when I compared the MVA flow numbers with the ones Dewey does his heads flow better than the MVA heads and a lot less money. I guess the dyno will tell. Pretty impressive numbers on your combination so I just may talk to Doc about the injectors again.

[FLSTFI Dave]

I'm going to be very interested in seeing your numbers after Doc gets done tuning.  It will be interesting to see what the head work and HPI throttle body add.  It's really looking like you will have a Killer set up.

[Frankcsal]

I just had Doc tune my 2012 Road Glide Skunk and I just could not believe the difference. The bike is very happy now and I am  to.

Doc replaced the head pipe to a Jackpot Series 2-1-2 Dyno tuned assembly.  I wanted to keep my stock mufflers because I liked the look so Doc had Fullsac replace the baffles with Fullsac 2" baffles.  Doc used a TTS Master Tune.

My SAE dyno numbers are 96.35hp and 121.07 tq.

I can't say enough about Doc.  Good guy and knows his stuff. 

[Fattbaggernknox]

I kind of wondered about changing the injectors as well but Doc said to use the stock ones. I looked at getting the MVA heads also but when I compared the MVA flow numbers with the ones Dewey does his heads flow better than the MVA heads and a lot less money. I guess the dyno will tell. Pretty impressive numbers on your combination so I just may talk to Doc about the injectors again.

I plan on sending them to WFO Larry when the time comes & will do crank & more ci..I hate to tear into it when it's running well so will keep ya'll informed.