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New Models or Fake
« on: March 14, 2023, 05:47:12 AM »

found that short video on a German Youtube Channel....

Fake or the short view of new models?  :o
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2023, 07:46:01 AM »

Going to call this fake.  Why would HD change the Road Glide fairing only for the CVO.  Same comment about the Street Glide, why put extra lights onto a fairing which means a different fairing for a limit production run.  Makes no economical sense for a company to do that.
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2023, 08:01:24 AM »

I'll say it fake.
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2023, 09:08:17 AM »

Link?
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2023, 05:39:49 PM »

Kinda looks fake. Interesting mounting points for the windshields if it is indeed true which might also explain the delay on everything except the Annie CVO RG Limited..... Things that make you go hmmmm
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2023, 06:55:53 PM »

I seen that video on tic tok it showed more on it. It did look like it was in the factory.
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2023, 10:11:13 AM »

I overheard guys talking about a redesigned fairing to help with the racing efforts in the King of the Bagger series.
I was In Daytona at the Speedway in the Harley Davidson area, but at the time I dismissed it as "another rumor". Maybe it's true.
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2023, 01:05:56 PM »

Unfortunately I thinks its real.  So much for the Integrity of the workers keeping it secret as is the HD tradition. I hope who took the photos gets fired, even told my dealership this this morning.
 
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2023, 03:35:01 PM »

If it is real, it looks like some sort of additional cover goes on top that the windshield could mount to or maybe even an adjustable windshield.
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2023, 03:41:25 PM »

Well, it made motorcycle.com, usually pretty reliable. The 121 (4 ci bump) makes me suspicious, makes no sense with their current motor upgrades available.

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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2023, 05:25:01 PM »

Another pix. Side shot. Notice the cam cover and new air cleaner.

I'm guessing a KOTB edition to compete against the Polaris version. Also guessing MSRP around $75k

There's a guy on the RG forum that worked in the York plant for "x" years that has friends that still work there that confirmed it's real.

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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2023, 07:43:54 PM »

I go with it’s the real deal!
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2023, 07:30:30 AM »

Fairings look more like an Indian than the traditional HD.
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #14 on: March 16, 2023, 07:54:53 AM »

Well, looks like I need to  change my opinion from Fake to real.  This will be interesting.  Wonder if their are any Frame changes top go with inverted Fork. 
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #15 on: March 16, 2023, 11:58:27 AM »

Looks real:



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« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2023, 04:38:04 PM »

Real.
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« Reply #17 on: March 16, 2023, 05:05:21 PM »

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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2023, 08:32:37 PM »

Variable Valve Timing included

https://www.motorcycle.com/new-model-preview/harley-davidsons-new-121ci-cvo-engine-has-vvt.html

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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2023, 06:35:21 AM »

Or if they are even something being released this year?
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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2023, 08:33:24 AM »

Or if they are even something being released this year?

Before the anniversary celebration in July
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2023, 08:22:23 AM »

Variable Valve Timing included

https://www.motorcycle.com/new-model-preview/harley-davidsons-new-121ci-cvo-engine-has-vvt.html

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El Camino Real.

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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2023, 01:39:36 PM »

VVT,  121 cu in, suspension upgrades, and maybe Reverse....  Now I'm interested LOL!
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« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2023, 01:35:21 PM »

Before the anniversary celebration in July

Maybe I should put my Stage II off. If they are truly coming out with a new CVO Street Glide, I think it would be worth seeing what they are doing before I put money into a bike I may sell or trade off... :nixweiss:
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« Reply #28 on: March 20, 2023, 05:06:17 PM »

VVT,  121 cu in, suspension upgrades, and maybe Reverse....  Now I'm interested LOL!

Not with that fairing!!
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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2023, 06:02:41 AM »

Not with that fairing!!

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Re: Are new fairings on the horizon?
« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2023, 05:00:43 PM »

Already a thread on it. Gonna be interesting for sure

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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2023, 09:51:32 PM »

Looks "real" ugly.
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« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2023, 12:40:22 PM »

I agree, doesn't look to appealing to me, but i'm sure it does to other and I'm happy for them.
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« Reply #35 on: March 27, 2023, 07:43:34 PM »

Just a guess but from that last inner fairing picture, looks like the new CVO Road Glide may come with a digital dash with built in radio…no more actual gauges?
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« Reply #36 on: March 27, 2023, 08:21:41 PM »

Just a guess but from that last inner fairing picture, looks like the new CVO Road Glide may come with a digital dash with built in radio…no more actual gauges?
Looks that way. If so, then no more aftermarket radios for these bikes for a while.
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« Reply #37 on: March 27, 2023, 08:41:04 PM »

Three other things I noticed from that inner fairing picture:

1) fuel filler/cap in centre of tank, as opposed to side for the CVO’s?
2) new compartment for your phone/music device just in front of the tank dash/panel?
3) and what is going on on the right side of the tank, just right of the center dash…area for switches/plug ins?
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« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2023, 06:01:48 AM »

Looking closer at the pix, this is the new batwing.
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« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2023, 06:54:06 AM »

To answer the question about the center fill cap.  CVO's that are Ultra or Limited have the center fill caps.

If this is a new CVO will be interesting to see it in person and what other changes have been made.  Maybe the company is finally trying to catch up a bit and maket he bike worth the dollars they are charging.

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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2023, 08:50:12 AM »

When I bought my 2022 CVO I felt like this would be my retirement bike. Perfect Colors, Perfect (for me) in every way.
I was Happy knowing there wouldn't be anything better (for me) coming out. And now this. Looks Very interesting.
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« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2023, 09:37:59 AM »

When I bought my 2022 CVO I felt like this would be my retirement bike. Perfect Colors, Perfect (for me) in every way.
I was Happy knowing there wouldn't be anything better (for me) coming out. And now this. Looks Very interesting.

Same... and I just put a down payment on a stage II with FuelMoto the week after the 4th of July. Now I'm wondering if I should wait.
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« Reply #42 on: March 29, 2023, 05:27:41 AM »

When I bought my 2022 CVO I felt like this would be my retirement bike. Perfect Colors, Perfect (for me) in every way.
I was Happy knowing there wouldn't be anything better (for me) coming out. And now this. Looks Very interesting.
Lol! Think about the dudes who bought the 2023 annv cvo.
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« Reply #43 on: March 29, 2023, 11:41:45 AM »

When I bought my 2022 CVO I felt like this would be my retirement bike. Perfect Colors, Perfect (for me) in every way.
I was Happy knowing there wouldn't be anything better (for me) coming out. And now this. Looks Very interesting.

Well, it took Harley 4+ years and numerous revisions to the oil pump to finally figure out the oil slumping/oil transfer issues.

With all the changes that these photos suggest and seem to reveal, do you really think that these new bikes with all these changes will be right when finally released?

I wish Harley the best and love my Harley, but I no longer want to be the “Beta” tester for their new bikes, which will no doubt come with a price increase!

Give them 2-3 years to sort out all their issues that they may have…in the mean time, ride your 2022 and enjoy!😀
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2023, 01:15:58 PM »

Looks like a home run… everting every body’s been asking for.  :drink:
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2023, 04:23:55 PM »

I received this email today from Harley. Take a close look at the picture. The email was about helmets, the bike sure looks like what we saw in the video(s). The saddlebags look different. And the frame under the seat looks different. Mono shock possibly?

They have always put the latest/greatest on the CVO lineup, and within a year or 2 it becomes the standard. They probably have enough frames to build out the next 1 or 2 model years of touring bikes since sales have dropped off and production numbers lowered.
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2023, 07:01:08 PM »

That bike looks like a 2023 Lowrider ST ………
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2023, 06:52:39 AM »

That bike looks like a 2023 Lowrider ST ………
You are correct, that bike is a Lowrider ST.  You can see the fairing is way different than the leaked photos, the air cleaner is different as is the frame.
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2023, 08:47:40 AM »

I received this email today from Harley. Take a close look at the picture. The email was about helmets, the bike sure looks like what we saw in the video(s). The saddlebags look different. And the frame under the seat looks different. Mono shock possibly?

They have always put the latest/greatest on the CVO lineup, and within a year or 2 it becomes the standard. They probably have enough frames to build out the next 1 or 2 model years of touring bikes since sales have dropped off and production numbers lowered.
Nothing special about that Lowrider ST.
I test rode one just like it at Daytona Beach Bike week last month.
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #49 on: April 18, 2023, 04:59:51 PM »

owner of my local dealership is pretty accessible, he sat on an owner's advisory board for this years CVO's, he sat on a prototype

they'll announce soon, maybe at the shindig in July, i'm pretty excited, i've put 70k miles on this one in the last 4 years and i've been thinking about end game on this one anyhow

2 guys ahead of me at the dealership, i'm in already
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2023, 07:17:20 AM »

IT'S REAL!!!

Look at youtube or MoCo site

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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #51 on: April 26, 2023, 08:42:12 AM »

IT'S REAL!!!

Look at youtube or MoCo site

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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #52 on: April 26, 2023, 10:00:33 AM »

Yes, its real.  My local dealer says they have  meeting at 3:00 eastern today with the MoCo, was told this yesterday.
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #53 on: June 07, 2023, 09:30:22 AM »

Today is the day! Looking forward to seeing the New bikes in better detail.
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Re: New Models or Fake
« Reply #54 on: June 13, 2023, 07:25:15 AM »

Here is a video of the new bikes and changes.  Start at 2.23 mark in video.  The rest is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qb0hnKWjSE 
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