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Custom Vehicle Discussions => CVO™ Limited => Topic started by: opee6969 on September 22, 2019, 09:10:12 AM
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I just sat on a '20 CVO Limited and the new seat addition isn't working for me. I'm 6'3" and the pad just below the rider backrest pushes you forward an inch or two basically making me sit on the tank. What were they thinking??
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I just sat on a '20 CVO Limited and the new seat addition isn't working for me. I'm 6'3" and the pad just below the rider backrest pushes you forward an inch or two basically making me sit on the tank. What were they thinking??
They were probably thinking that the average American male is 5” shorter than you.
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Ahhh, there we go again. Assuming the folks at the Motor Company THINK.
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MOCO is thinking of future sales of seats they have hanging on the walls of every dealership out there. Just like windscreens, hand & foot controls, speakers and a whole book filled with how to make the bike feel comfortable.
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MOCO is thinking of future sales of seats they have hanging on the walls of every dealership out there. Just like windscreens, hand & foot controls, speakers and a whole book filled with how to make the bike feel comfortable.
:2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: It's just a continuation of the business model they had that said sell under-performing motorcycles and then sell parts to make them run decently at an additional big price. Since the EPA finally took much of that model away from them, they just shifted focus to all the ergonomics issues. Meanwhile other companies make things like adjustable windshields standard, and powertrains that are out-of-the-crate still head and shoulders better than H-D's offerings.
Considering the way Harley avoids things like adjustable seats, there is no way the stock seats can fit everyone. People come in a huge variety of sizes. Over in the automotive industry we came up with a lot of features to make our seats fit more people, from nine way adjustability (fore/aft/tilt/high/low/lumbar/etc) of the actual seat, to adjustable steering wheels, and eventually to adjustable pedals. And we still have people who don't fit well. Harley hasn't made any effort at all by comparison. They even eliminated the old adjustment for the footboards when they changed the frames for the touring models back in 2009. They need to at least offer a choice of seats based on rider size at no extra cost, but I seriously doubt that will ever happen.
Jerry
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It's just a continuation of the business model they had that said sell under-performing motorcycles and then sell parts to make them run decently at an additional big price. Since the EPA finally took much of that model away from them, they just shifted focus to all the ergonomics issues.
Jerry
Care to share the memo on this?
As I stated above, it’s likely to have a lot more to do with the fact that the average N. American male is 5’ 10” and the OP, at 6’ 3”, is in the 97th percentile for height amongst his fellow N. American men. For the slow among us, that means the OP is taller than 120,000,000 of the roughly 124,000,000 American adult males running around the country.
Nobody is going to design bike ergonomics for 3% of the market segment unless they are really, really dumb.
But it’s really a lot less than 3% due to the number of CVO bikes sold internationally: in Japan the average male is 5’ 7”, and in China it’s less than 5’ 6”. It’s similar in the Middle East. The OP would be a monster in Asia, South America or the Middle East, where the majority of humans actually live, and where H-D would like to sell motorcycles.
But none of those facts are likely to prevent people from thinking of anything other than themselves, so I guess why bother.... let’s just gripe!
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I didn't know I was 1/2 Japanese and 1/2 chinese. :confused5:
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HD makes the "Tall boy" seat for taller riders. One of my friends has one and he likes it. He is 6-2 or 6-3.. makes me feel like a dwarf and I'm 5-9...
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Tallboy seat is better for those of 6'3" but I cannot use an adjustable rider backrest. And you cannot just use the formula for CVO bikes. All Harley touring bikes use the same seat configurations. I personally love the Hammock seat, but it raises me up 2 more inches and requires me to put a taller windshield on for longer rides. Thats where an adjustable windshield would be appreciated.
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At 5' 11" with a 30.5" inseam the seat was perfect for me, road for an hour yesterday and had no tightness in my shoulders at all.
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I am 6'2 with a tall torso and have a 2019 CVO and love the mustang seat with heat and backrest. I tried the saddleman and it was too hard. Would love 1 more inch, but overall much better than stock!
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Ditto on the (heated) Mustang with backrest.
6'4" big'un on a 2019 Ultra Limited - I too, would like it to be back another inch or so,
but SO much better than stock. Recently added Tallboy handlebars, that's a big help, too.
Certainly a good upgrade from my perspective.
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I just sat on a '20 CVO Limited and the new seat addition isn't working for me. I'm 6'3" and the pad just below the rider backrest pushes you forward an inch or two basically making me sit on the tank. What were they thinking??
I'm 6'3", 34" inseam and have had my 2020 CVO Limited for about a month now and I'm comfortable with the stock seat. :nixweiss:
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I'm nearly 6'2 (187cm) and the stock seat is fine. It seemed to reduce seat room at first sight, but I don't feel it when riding. May be the size of the belly matters more ::) (184 Lb in my case)
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Does anyone know the part number for the 2020 cvo limited seat?
I'm thinking of putting one on our 19.
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hang on to your wallet....
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The price of the seat reminds me of when I went to pick up my bike.
They left in the showroom after the purchase and when I went to pick the bike up a week later there was a 4 inch scratch from someone dragging a boot over it.
Dealer said they would discount the price of the seat or replace it.
I had them order a new one.
Maybe they will be removing the sold bikes from the floor after that lesson.
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Thanks for the info. Yes, that's some money. Considering I'm not happy with the quality of my 19 seat...very hesitant...
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Can anyone tell me if this new seat is still a hammock seat with leather inserts like previous years? I would also like to get one for my '19 Limited, they are very comfortable in the showroom.
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The 2020 CVO Limited seat is a hammock and has perforated leather on it. Dual heated also of course.
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It's the same seat that came on my 2020 CVO Triglide. Love it. Just bought complete set-up on marketplace. For my 2016 CVO Limited. Guy took it off for a Corbin set-up for his CVO Triglide. I'm 5' 11".
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I'm nearly 6'2 (187cm) and the stock seat is fine. It seemed to reduce seat room at first sight, but I don't feel it when riding. May be the size of the belly matters more ::) (184 Lb in my case)
Oh that’s just plain mean. :huepfenlol2: I am 61 and I would be skin and bones at 220 ha ha
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I took mine off. Put on a Mustang Super Touring seat with red stitching. No heat but I live in Florida so most time never use it anyways. We measured the stock seat and with the attached butt pad it puts you two inches closer to the tank than a regular stock seat on a Ultra Limited. I'm 6'4" and now I don't feel like I am sitting on the tank.
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Has anyone thought about removing the bottom cushion on the seat? I saw a picture of this done just wanting to know if it was worth doing.
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I took mine off. Put on a Mustang Super Touring seat with red stitching. No heat but I live in Florida so most time never use it anyways. We measured the stock seat and with the attached butt pad it puts you two inches closer to the tank than a regular stock seat on a Ultra Limited. I'm 6'4" and now I don't feel like I am sitting on the tank.
I’m also looking for a replacement seat that set me back a few inches over the stock 2018 CVO limited seats. Can you post a part number for the seat you purchased. I went to mustang site and put in my 2018 CVO limited and it doesn’t show any seats available for that at all
Thanks
Dave
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I’m also looking for a replacement seat that set me back a few inches over the stock 2018 CVO limited seats. Can you post a part number for the seat you purchased. I went to mustang site and put in my 2018 CVO limited and it doesn’t show any seats available for that at all
Thanks
Dave
This is the numbers for a super touring / extended reach with red stitching.
Seat
79006AB $599.99
Pass Back Rest
79014AB $329.99
Drivers Back Rest
79012AB $229.99
I bought it at Bike Week, you might be able to get it cheeper if you look around.
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Thanks buddy, I’ll keep my eyes open for it at a rally
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Just wondering if anyone has put 10" or 12" ape hangers on there 2020 CVO Limited. If so post pics.
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The 2018 cvo rg seat is terrible it pushes you forward and upright ! putting after market bars 16 inch helped but not for long rides...
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6’ 4” here. Same problem. Buddy GAVE me a Mustang. Buying a concrete block would have been more comfortable.
Corbin ... and never look back. After many bikes, best I’ve ever had.