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Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« on: December 09, 2013, 02:53:53 AM »

I acquired an almost new Woods TW-7H cams from a friend along with some new Woods directional lifters. I am curious as to whether it is worth it to install these over the stock cams? I am changing my exhaust so I figured now would be the time to get it done if it's worth it. I won't be touching the heads, I have some adjustable pushrods to get the job done. Thx
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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 07:24:57 AM »

I am certainly not an expert on twin cam HD engines (which is why this forum is so valuable to me), but I have been around motor performance mods enough to know that it is a balancing act. If you change exhaust and add cams, you should probably go ahead and beef up the fuel management system. There are several here who can refine this for you, my point is to realize that everything is inter related and if you skip over a critical component you may not get the performance improvements you anticipated.

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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 07:28:17 AM »

the 7h cams are very nice cams,but you better get the rest of your build to match them.with stock compression,they`ll fall flat on their face,you`ll want to set compression at 10.5-1,1.900 headwork & 107" would be a big + also

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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 07:48:54 AM »

I acquired an almost new Woods TW-7H cams from a friend along with some new Woods directional lifters. I am curious as to whether it is worth it to install these over the stock cams? I am changing my exhaust so I figured now would be the time to get it done if it's worth it. I won't be touching the heads, I have some adjustable pushrods to get the job done. Thx


I have two 110's with the Woods TW-7H cams. Both run great. One is 105 HP with 117 Torque, the other 104 HP and 118 Torque.
Before I installed the TW-7H in the second bike I asked if there was a better cam than this. Basically what I learned was there are a few popular cams that perform about the same. The Andrews 54, the Fueling 574, and others will perform about the same. The key to performance is the tune. Mine were tuned by Bob at RC Cycles in California.
Everyone has a different opinion but both of my 110's run great and consistently get great gas mileage. If you have them, use them. I'm happy with mine. Any other questions send me a pm.


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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 08:20:13 AM »

I'm currently borrowing a friend's 95" Dyna while he's working on my Night Train.  It's got those cams, as well as a set of Baisley heads and a few other tweaks.  It's a freaking beast.  I think there's a dyno sheet in one of the bags, I'll check when I get home.

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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 12:47:44 PM »

  If its a 110 youll need compression,those cams are also like most of wodd's cams a bit noisey.

   best bet ebay them and get a 24D,mill the heads for a little compression and enjoy
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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2013, 03:34:08 PM »


I have two 110's with the Woods TW-7H cams. Both run great. One is 105 HP with 117 Torque, the other 104 HP and 118 Torque.
Before I installed the TW-7H in the second bike I asked if there was a better cam than this. Basically what I learned was there are a few popular cams that perform about the same. The Andrews 54, the Fueling 574, and others will perform about the same. The key to performance is the tune. Mine were tuned by Bob at RC Cycles in California.
Everyone has a different opinion but both of my 110's run great and consistently get great gas mileage. If you have them, use them. I'm happy with mine. Any other questions send me a pm.


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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2013, 04:06:16 PM »


I have two 110's with the Woods TW-7H cams. Both run great. One is 105 HP with 117 Torque, the other 104 HP and 118 Torque.
Before I installed the TW-7H in the second bike I asked if there was a better cam than this. Basically what I learned was there are a few popular cams that perform about the same. The Andrews 54, the Fueling 574, and others will perform about the same. The key to performance is the tune. Mine were tuned by Bob at RC Cycles in California.
Everyone has a different opinion but both of my 110's run great and consistently get great gas mileage. If you have them, use them. I'm happy with mine. Any other questions send me a pm.


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105/117 & 104/118 out of a 110 is great?? get the compression up and you`ll get respectable #`s



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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2013, 07:25:11 PM »

Thanks everyone for all the input. Have the cams and may as well install them. 104hp 117tq would definitely be an improvement until I get the heads done next year!
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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2013, 12:05:36 AM »


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I hope you pay better attention to your motor assembly than you pay to the content of the threads you respond to.

105/117 & 104/118 out of a 110 is great?? get the compression up and you`ll get respectable #`s



I won't be touching the heads, I have some adjustable pushrods to get the job done. Thx

Whether your a better engine builders than most builders that post numbers on this site (:huepfenlol2:) or have one of those happy dyno's my response was only to help a member asking about using Woods TW-7H cams in his stock 110. If wanted higher numbers for my 110's I'd probably take some cash and go back to hd-dude at Metal Dragon, the same shop that got me those unrespectable (per you) numbers to start with.

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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2013, 06:29:31 AM »

well,we do match compression with the right choice cam here.heads flow fine now for 90% of builds,the 110`s need more compression (especially with a 7H),not CFM,to make decent power.

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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2013, 08:45:58 AM »


Per Bob Wood the TW-7H is a bolt in cam for TC96 - TC110 engines.

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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2013, 09:21:48 AM »

Per Bob Wood the TW-7H is a bolt in cam for TC96 - TC110 engines.

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sure it will "bolt in" as far as clearances & coil bind goes,but it needs more compression to work to its best

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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2013, 03:19:45 PM »

sure it will "bolt in" as far as clearances & coil bind goes,but it needs more compression to work to its best

Somehow I doubt the ability to physically install the cam is what Bob Woods was referring to when he describes his TW-7H cam as a "bolt in" cam for TC96 - TC110 engines.  

Virtually any cam will benefit from some level of tuning, headwork and/or exhaust, but as Bob states, this particular cam performs well for the typical rider as a bolt in cam.
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Re: Cam change question regarding tw-7h
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2013, 03:58:59 PM »

true,but certain cams (like the Andrews 48) are for "cam only" builds,that will perform well with stock compression.we (and most decent engine builders)would not even consider a 7H for a "cam only" build,on a stock compression 96"or a 110".free country though,do what ya want
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